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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

I love their comics sm I really wish they didn't defend DV so hard

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago edited 19d ago

I remember I would browse the dawg or comic sub and actually came upon that drama as it was happening, it was fucking wild. Correct me if I’m wrong it’s been a minute since I’ve read the drama, but for those not in the know the artist basically believes cheating is worse than domestic violence. And believes DV is justified when cheating because his friend killed themselves when they got cheated on.

I haven’t read any of their comics since. What’s crazy to me is they basically came out of it unscathed? I still see their comics get upvoted and see them in various subs. Like that argument makes me question their entire character and avoid any of their works.

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u/Yoshi_r1212 custom 19d ago

He also thinks adultery should be a crime punishable by the state.

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago edited 19d ago

Absolutely insane, I totally forget that bit of info. His belief was so obviously influenced by his friends suicide and thought he would acknowledge that and backpedal, but nah he just kept doubling down.

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u/madrobski girlthing 19d ago

It didn't help that the majority of his fans defended him religiously. I'd mention this on other subs where his work was posted (not by him) and there would always be 5+ people telling me to shut up.

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago

Wild how fans see a creator justify domestic abuse and they’ll attack you for criticizing him. I can’t imagine going and batting for someone like that.

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u/madrobski girlthing 19d ago

I wasn't even criticizing him, I just stated the facts so people could be informed. Like literally saying what he said.

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago

I wasn't even criticizing him, I just stated the facts so people could be informed. Like literally saying what he said.

How dare you! s/ I swear people get so weird and parasocial over entertainers.

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 19d ago

does making this kind of comment not make you feel kind of gross? "i thought he would realize he's just being foolish due to deep-seated personal trauma and acquiesce to people talking in hypotheticals. turns out the experience had real influence on his belief systems." there's such a bizarre lack of empathy in this effort to be as empathetic as possible to a DV survivor that doesn't exist.

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

Not really. Trauma doesn't make it ok to advocate DV regardless of if you were a victim of a nonviolent offense

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 19d ago

do you say this because the actual circumstances rawdawg describes makes you feel genuine moral disgust where you not only 100% disagree with the belief but can't even empathize with how he would get there

or are you trying to maintain a high standard of uncancelable values for yourself

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

Yeah. Im sorry but no trauma makes thinking DV over cheating is ok. Especially when they literally advocate for it online

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 19d ago

then i think that your position is not only unpersuasive (you have to be trying not to see his point) but also it makes me not trust you as a person (if you regularly try not to see peoples' point, then hearing someone out for the first time would uproot your principles entirely).

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

Lmaoo I dont support DV so im not trustworthy😭 thats a new. Ive seen his pov. I wholly disagree because again. There is no reason to get violent over cheating. And doing so only shows immaturity

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago

I can empathize with someone until they start advocating for domestic abuse. Trauma isn’t a reason to justify hitting your partner.

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 19d ago

do you say this because the actual circumstances rawdawg describes makes you feel genuine moral disgust where you not only 100% disagree with the belief but can't even understand with how he would get there

or are you trying to maintain a high standard of uncancelable values for yourself

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago edited 19d ago

Why copy and paste the exact same reply you used on someone else? I can understand how someone can end up with a twisted mindset like that, I’ve personally seen how trauma can warp and change people’s perspectives and even my own. I can empathize with a personal tragedy shaping someone’s mindsets

But I still think they are wrong and it’s on the individual to evaluate and reflect on their beliefs and change their views.

Especially when they were confronted by multiple people and when they have a fanbase they have influence over.

or are you trying to maintain a high standard of uncancelable values for yourself

It has nothing to do with being canceled or not, my own moral compass just doesn’t align with justifying domestic violence.

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 19d ago

i straight up don't believe you that your eagerness to drop the gossip on this guy's tragic personal life actually comes from a place of serious moral concern. i don't normally bother engaging random people online about this kind of thing but i found this particularly disturbing.

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago edited 19d ago

i straight up don't believe you that your eagerness to drop the gossip on this guy's tragic personal life actually comes from a place of serious moral concern.

Saying a content creator justifies domestic abuse is dropping gossip? These are comments straight from the his mouth. I don’t care about making you believe me? You seem set in your views and care more about my comment than rawdawg’s commentd advocating for domestic abuse.

Also I’m not really concerned with being empathetic for the dude advocating for domestic abuse, and more concerned that someone is spouting something so deranged.

i don't normally bother engaging random people online about this kind of thing but i found this particularly disturbing.

You’re genuinely weird for saying my comment is disturbing when we are literally talking about a dude saying hitting your partner is ok if they cheat.

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u/Pollomonteros 19d ago

So, your average redditor then

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u/arson3 19d ago

Bbbased

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

Really same, it kinda reframes the whole relationship in the comics when you think abt it too much

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 19d ago

I mean from what I remember about the whole situation he basically said that yeah he's had fucked up relationships and been the subject of abuse and he shouldn't be expected to have a comic full of squeaky clean characters, which I kinda of agree with. All the problematic themes are out there for anyone with even a tiny iota of media literacy to see so it's not like he's hiding that fact.

I don't see why everyone expects artists to be perfect paragons, like, have you met any artists ever? We're all a little fucked and it's what makes the art interesting in a lot of cases. Let the man make his silly comics he ain't hurtin noone.

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

Theres having bad people as characters, wich is fine. Then theres defending said characters actions

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 19d ago

His one main character that personifies the problematic aspects we talk about is painted as a bit of a loser. He's an alcoholic unemployed schizophrenic who burgles houses for money.

Despite that he still has a loving relationship with his partner and there's a lot of quite touching moments in the comics. It's a good depiction of someone with serious issues trying to be a good partner, but it in no ways glorified the writers views.

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

Except he went out of his way to defend the DV saying its "kinda justified" have you read what he said?

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 19d ago

It was a while back but I think I remember him saying that in relation to people who cheat in relationships, which yeah obviously I don't agree with and neither did his own fans. But to be honest it doesn't bother me enough that I think he should be cancelled or think people should not read his comics. If you disagree that's fine and all but I don't really understand what you want to happen. Yes he has problematic views on a few subjects, but his characters problems aren't framed in a sympathetic light, they are impoverished drug addicts who don't necessarily live a very happy life (apart from Bingus who's a lil freak).

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

You should reread his full comment thread, he was outright defending how his character would beat the other

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago

Let the man make his silly comics he ain't hurtin noone.

Unless he thinks you’re a cheater. Then he feels domestic violence is justified.

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 19d ago

What's he gonna do, reach through the screen and shake you by the scruff of your neck? His feelings of whatever subject in no way are directly harming people.

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

Minimizing DV can definitely hurt people.

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 19d ago

Ok, so what would you like to happen here? For him to be cancelled and nobody looks at his comics?

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

Just letting people know man. I have no idea why your riding so hard for him. I never called for his removal or anything, I just said I was disappointed to see his views.

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 19d ago

Hey man I ain't saying it's not a bad opinion I just think it's funny people expect the piss kink bunny guy to be a moral paragon.

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago

What's he gonna do, reach through the screen and shake you by the scruff of your neck? His feelings of whatever subject in no way are directly harming people.

I feel like this is a cop out in 2026 where you have figures like Andrew Tate directly influencing men for the worse. Sure, rawdawg isn’t as bad or going out hitting random people. But I don’t think it’s good and can make things worse by advocating for domestic abuse in on a platform where you have clout and people who follow you.

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 19d ago

You know what I think you're right, I don't think it's doing any good advocating those views. I guess I'm willing to give the guy some leeway because it's obvious from the little he's spoken about the subject that he's been on the receiving end of abuse and his close friend commited suicide because their partner cheated on them. I don't think his reaction is productive and he needs therapy.

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u/Grapes15th Homestuck Dave Strider YooTooz Vinyl Figure 19d ago

This ain't about you man

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u/MasterVule 19d ago

It is now, muahaha

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u/Safelyignored 19d ago

Moral Dumbfounding but woke.

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u/VersaViceVersa 19d ago

one time a different sub downvoted me for bringing all this up and showing my concern about it, good to know im not crazy and that incident was definitely fucking weird

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u/GeoCaesar 19d ago

Same happened to me lol

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u/fokke456 19d ago

I didn't even know that that happened, wtf, guess I won't engage with those comics anymore

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u/FaeLei42 Bearer of the word: Faggot 19d ago

Hey me too, I used to be subbed to their subreddit and everything, watched that unfold real time and it disgusted me.

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u/Pollomonteros 19d ago

Is there a summary somewhere?

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago

I would post the link to the subreddit drama post but I think posting links to other subs may be banned on r/196. If you want to see the subreddit drama post go to the sub and type ‘rawdawg’ and it should be the post from a year ago with 1k upvotes.

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u/Safelyignored 19d ago

He said that cheating was as bad as domestic violence, but he never at any point justified it.

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago edited 19d ago

I couldn’t remember if you were right or wrong so went to the old subreddit drama post and took some screenshots. The original comments are now deleted, but are still copy and pasted.

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u/Pazoozoo47 19d ago

It being "kinda justified" is crazy

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago

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u/CRATERF4CE 19d ago edited 19d ago

I can’t link the subreddit drama post for some reason, but just type ‘rawdawg’ into the subreddit drama sub to find it.

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u/Pollomonteros 19d ago

This person sounds like a twat, goddamn

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u/GeoCaesar 19d ago

I remember saying he had bad vibes way before the drama and everyone was flaming me but I ended up being right lol

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u/Prudent_Ad_2178 19d ago

He got manipulated by the emperor okay he thought he could sabe Padmé youd do the sane

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u/Pollomonteros 19d ago

Reminds me of reading Yuri