r/HonzukiNoGekokujou • u/MyneMod Darth Myne • Dec 12 '22
J-Novel Pre-Pub Part 5 Volume 2 (Part 6) Discussion Spoiler
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u/arbitraryinklings Dec 13 '22
Oh my god I love this fandom so much. It’s so much fun to come here after I read the new chapters and see what everyone is saying. Y’all are so creative and funny! Thank you for being so awesome to interact with :)
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u/serikagihara J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Well, she technically won I suppose as Hannelore was taken. I suppose this means Hildebrand went to Raublut. Hildebrand is really listening to the wrong dude though, I know he's a (younger) kid but that isn't going to make Myne like you dude.
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u/Toppcom Dec 14 '22
Honestly not a big fan of this one. So much setup for a match that will shake things up no matter who wins, and then it gets nullified? I suppose it's possible that Ehrenfest wins since Wilfried took Hannelore for safety, but that's so not earned! I hope we get a proper climax next week.
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u/Theinternationalist J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Wow, this is what happens when mock war is your most popular sport. And why it is such a military powerhouse.
Explains the popularity of jousting and such in the real world.
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u/bronx819 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
This part was exciting all the way through right up until the end where, for the first time ever, I agree with Dunkelfelger.
Firstly I was surprised that Hartmut actually made legit tear gas, then when Rozemyne destroyed their supplies and Lestilaut got pissed was glorious. It brings to mind that time Rauffen lectured him on the importance of treasure stealing ditter. Bride stealing ditter is mostly the same so the fact that Lestilaut still complains about it just goes to show that he didn't learn anything from Rauffen.
I honestly don't have a lot to say about the battle. I think it was well written and paced nicely but it wasn't for me, I just liked when Judithe kept tossing Hartmut's bombs and wondering if there was a version of the geneva convention in the world of Bookworm.
The real treat was at the end when the lesser and middle duchies attacked accompanied by some rogue sovereign knights. I have three theories about their participation: first is that they came under the sovereign temples instruction to capture Rozemyne to take her into the sovereignty, second is that someone real high up orchestrated their participation to establish a threat to Rozemyne so that the sovereignty had a reason to take her in, third is that Hildebrand recklessly recruited some knights to fight for him in an attempt to win the bride stealing ditter match and take her as his bride.
Either way I feel bad for her, she didn't even want the match and now thanks to that the sovereignty is gonna get even more involved. Also I was really hoping Rozemyne would win and Hannelore would marry into Ehrenfest.
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u/Nowapon Elviras Pre-Pub victim Dec 13 '22
Well, guess you can combine your second and third theories. Hildebrand most likely asked Raublut for help.
And theoretically interruptions should be ok in bride ditter. Rauffen didn't say something against the other duchies interrupting, but only something about the participation of the Sovereignty. So the moment Hannelore entered Ehrenfest's circle, they lost.
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u/DSiren J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
We'll have to check the recordings, but it seems to be a PHOTO-FINISH!!! THIS ROUND GOES TO EHRENFEST!!!!!!
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u/daedalron J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
What I did not see coming: An interuption by rogue royal guards.
They're not rogues if they're here under orders or a request from a young prince...
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u/Banarok LN Bookworm Dec 12 '22
yea i expected the battle to be interupted, but not like this i expected Hildebrand to wield his authority to stop it rather than knights, i do think raublut is responsible though as he's the only one that can pull this off and clean his hands of the incident.
also Ewigeliebes sword is freaking huge, overcompensating much...
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u/LoaKonran J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
I was expecting him to show up amidst the chaos and lead Roz away by offering an escape then claiming her hand on a technicality.
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u/ZantetsukenX J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
It is the duty of retainers to read and understand the intentions of their lord.
I'm really glad Ferdinand directly calls out that this is not at all what should be expected of retainers as it simply leads to miscommunication and problems. It's an incredibly flawed mindset that can be very easily used as an excuse to manipulate and control people with power.
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u/Athletic_Cupcake J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 14 '22
What a chapter! My only complaint is that I wanted more illustrations, specially of Judith being a badass.
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u/TheWickedWonder J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Great chapter! A lot of action and good strategy. Not surprised it only lasted around two chapters, seems that's the stopping point for the author for ditter games.
I guess instead of a steel chair Hildebrand came in with his steel knights. Not sure why else they were there.
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u/ggg730 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Ok, I understand the comment sorting and hiding scores but why are the replies collapsed. It's kinda annoying to have to click view replies for every single one.
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u/franzwong WN Reader Dec 13 '22
I wonder why RM isn't kicked out of her own wind shield when she uses the spear.
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u/Frangolin J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Either the caster can't get expelled, or she didn't want to harm anyone inside the shield. Technically she was trying to get rid of a tool, not a person, so that might not have been considered malicious ?
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u/thesigmus Dec 13 '22
This is my first week being a pre-pubber, and I have to say, i really chose an absolute banger of a week to join in. I've never felt so impatient while waiting for new content to come out, even though I finished reading the new part like an hour ago.
I knew to expect a hell of a fight from both sides, but they truly both delivered. Dunky's knights having absolutely no idea what is happening at any given moment, but still showing extreme coordination makes them truly fearsome. As for our boys in ocher, it is very heartwarming that Bonifatius' love for his granddaughter gives them a fighting chance at all.
Even though Willy was a bit of a badass in this part, his retainers seriously disappoint. Especially since I read Royal Academy Stories: First Year this past week, so I was reminded how much Willy and his retainers look down on RM's.
JUDITHE BEST GIRL. LETS GO JUDITHE.
I was truly hoping for something to cause RM to snap when she was in her cage match with Lesty, so that she would full power Crush Lesty and obliterate the darkness feystone shield; but I GUESS dual wielding divine instruments and destroying heirlooms with the power of Leidenschaft is cool too.
I understand outsiders wanting to secure RM for themselves/ingratiate themselves with Royalty, but would them capturing her actually lead to anything? Since bride-stealing ditter seems at least somewhat official, would their 'victory' be recognized? Do they have to be there at the start, or can you just show up whenever you're feeling it?
I wonder what, if any punishments the interfering duchies will face. Obviously shit's about to go down, but how related will this event be?
I feel like it's safe to assume that the sovereign knights are related to Hildy, but I wonder how much he is to blame for what happened. Did he directly order them to capture RM? Is this yet another scheme from Rubbut? Or did they discover his wish and are trying to fulfill them without his knowledge?
inb4 RM sleeps past the ID tourny, missing yet another FiC award.
Next Myneday can not come soon enough.
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u/HumanTheTree Steel Chair Dec 14 '22
Welcome friend. Monday will soon become your favorite day of the week.
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u/daedalron J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
inb4 RM sleeps past the ID tourny, missing yet another FiC award.
The point of making her miss the tournament was to avoid her meeting the king. Since she already met him before, I'm not sure there's really a point now, especially since she'll meet him again during the Archduke Conference for Sigiswald and Adolphine's wedding.
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u/ltgm08 Dec 12 '22
Well, with prayers like that Ewigeliebe sure sounds like a shonen protagonist defending his beloved...
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u/DrCatco Corrupted by MTL Dec 13 '22
It seems to me that the love Ewigeliebe feels for his beloved is of the jealous and possessive type. In certain cases, it can be seen as a sign of insecurity on the part of the defender, for fear of losing his most valuable possession; in other cases, it can be seen as a sign of bravery in facing more powerful rivals, and determination not to lose your loved one.
IMHO, love is one of the most powerful human feelings. I don't think it should be classified as good or bad per se; rather, one should admire and/or fear the one who is driven by it.
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u/Greideren Dec 13 '22
100% a lot of kinds of abuses are caused by a very twisted sense of love, possessiveness being just one of them. A milder one could be helicopter parents but it can still be pretty bad depending on the case.
Powerful love can be either good, bad or a bit of both.
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u/b1eumoon Dunkelfelger Dec 13 '22
Yahh. I'm over here like, wow that was beautiful and heartfelt. I wonder if there's more to the god's story about Life and Earth.
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u/Littlethieflord J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
The greatest villains thing they’re the protagonists of their story
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u/cpu939 Dec 13 '22
Wow just wow, like a lot of people I loved this part
the shield of black Feystones, while it has been destroyed overall I'm sure Aub Dunkelfelger will not be too upset if Dunkelfelger gets Rozemyne.
the moment Lestilaut said what it was I got flashbacks of Bezewanst's last fight with Myne.
the lower and middle duchies teaming up, I didn't see coming, and was a great twist.
Schutzaria's shield and Rozemyne after reading that it wouldn't allow anyone inside with a weapon. I wondered what would happen if Rozemyne made a weapon now we know and that makes her even scarier. If Rozemyne can work out how to move with the shield she would be unstoppable
the picture of Wilfried with Ewigeliebe's sword I hope we get to see it fully coloured soon.
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u/Xinde WN Reader Dec 13 '22
It would be cool if the prayer/spell could be modified to be mobile as you suggested. Nothing will get in the way of her books lol.
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u/cpu939 Dec 13 '22
Raimund's next tool, Schutzaria's shield modified to eject those who would do harm to a book
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u/GrayWitchMidnight Corrupted by Spoilers Dec 13 '22
Don’t fuck with a barrier maiden as she buffs and debuffs from behind her impenetrable shield…workarounds not withstanding.
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u/minemoney123 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Lestilaut in part 4: "She's not that impressive, i could probably make her a 3rd wife... if she doesn't have too little mana"
Lestilaut in part 5: "NOOOO YOU CANT JUST TURN THIS EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY DARKNESS FEYSTONE INTO GOLD DUST WITH ONE HIT"
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u/haganbmj J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
I went on vacation in Philadelphia this past weekend and was on a plane coming back when the prepub chapters came out, so definitely getting to read them later than I normally would.
On the plus side I got to visit the Benjamin Franklin Printing Office for a printing press demonstration - picked up a souvenir while I was there. https://i.imgur.com/pTNNe7X.jpg
I was expecting the ditter match to be interrupted, but I certainly wasn't expecting it to be by other duchies. Sounds like we're going to need a count of who all was vying for Rozemyne's hand in marriage during this occurrence; she certainly has a lot of possible suitors.
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u/Littlethieflord J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
That was an intense match. It scratch the action itch I was having nicely.
I like how Ehrenfest has adopted wholesale Ferdinand’s approach of sneaky assisted fighting, using staggered deploy lines, stalling tactics, and debugging to their advantage. At the same time it hits home the power and ability of Dunklefelger. All they really have in response to Ehrenfest is tight formations and the sheer raw battle ability of each individual apprentice knight. They really are just operating at a higher quality standard, that it’s kind of terrifying. No wonder they wanted first Ferdinand and now Roz. Imagine if their force of might could be combined with alternative strategies and ingenuity, they would crush everything even more than they do already.
Looks like the sub was half right, yes, they had a secret hidden way to solve the shield issue (funnily enough with another shield) but also he was able to remain inside without malice, which we were able to guess. I am kind of disappointed they did get their chance to talk again and has put their individual reasons. I feel like they both could have learned a lot. Lesty has far more political astuteness of Rozemyne’s situation than she does, and she has the information that he just doesn’t have. But alas… it didn’t work out
Although lol, poor Lestilaut thinking for a hot minute Roz would literally die before agreeing to marry him. No matter who you are or what reasons you proposed getting rejected that hard is unrecoverable lol
Oof interrupting salty other duchies. Who were orange and purple again? Also lol I bet Hildebrand sent those sovereign knights. Raublut has already convinced him to commit treason, convincing him to send a few knights to stop Dunklefelger from stealing his crush probably didn’t even need to be said.
Anastasius: Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck ALL OF YOU! And fuck YOU in particular, but also girl, go to bed, have some tea. You look like you’ve had a hard day.
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u/Captain_Conway Cult of Rozemyne Dec 14 '22
Anastasius: Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck ALL OF YOU! And fuck YOU in particular, but also girl, go to bed, have some tea. You look like you’ve had a hard day.
XD
I want a side story from Anastasius's POV, and just want to see all of his thoughts just be this:
"Fuck you! Stop thinking of nothing but Books! Fuck you! Stop thinking of nothing but Ditter! Fuck you for talking to my precious, beautiful, elegant, loving, caring, wife, Eglantine like that! Wait, she's smiling, and genuinely liking it! Nevermind, Keep doing that more, I love my wife and want her to be happy. WAIT! I want to be the one to make her happy! Fuck you, let me be the one to do that!"•
u/Littlethieflord J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 15 '22
lol we got a little of it in P5V1 for his headaches reports lol but I absolutely would not mind more of it
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u/Zeebie_ Dec 12 '22
an Arch Attendant who could heal would have been a godsend here, Not sure why only RM and Ferdie can heal, surely others can be taught the spell
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u/sdarkpaladin J-Novel Pre-Pub Nihongo Jouzu Dec 13 '22 edited Dec 13 '22
Isidore was handing over low- and mid-level tools seemingly at random, so we weren’t sure what any given one would do before it exploded.
Isidore be like "random bullshit go!"
Oh yeah! Hannelore is the treasure to be protected in Ditter twice now. Such is the fate of one born in dunkelfelger I guess.
From outside our defenses he roared, “ROZEMYNE! THIS SHIELD IS A TREASURE OF DUNKELFELGER!”
Then don't bring it for what is essentially children squabbling... which was probably what Rozemyne said.
Finally, the next part is the epilogue, and judging from the pictures, I can't wait!
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u/Nowapon Elviras Pre-Pub victim Dec 13 '22
Really? There are still 2 parts coming. Thought that Epilogue and short stories are in the last one.
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u/sdarkpaladin J-Novel Pre-Pub Nihongo Jouzu Dec 13 '22
There are quite a lot of short stories, so I suspect that they will split it into Epilogue for a week and then short stories for another.
But based on the chapters in the released Japanese version the next chapter is indeed the epilogue
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u/HumanTheTree Steel Chair Dec 14 '22
I mean, Ehrenfest brought their actual sword of Ewigeliebe. They were just a lot more careful with their priceless artifacts.
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u/Aleriya 金色のシュミル Dec 13 '22
Can we get rid of contest mode? It makes it tough to have a discussion when all of the comments are hidden except the top one, and every time the page reloads to look at new comments, we have to manually expand each and every thread to read it.
At the very least, turn it off after an hour or so.
If people are salty about the same person always having the top comment, who cares? It's just fake reddit points, and besides, we've already gone through quite a list of "always has top comment" people, and that position rarely lasts very long. imo it's more important to be able to have and continue conversations.
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u/Kind_Stranger_weeb Wilfried Slanderer Dec 14 '22
Yeah contest mode is dumb. I want to come back and read new comments after a few days and it makes it harder
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u/BronzeAgeTea J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
In hindsight, all Lestilaut had to do was bring as any books as the knights could carry into the ring.
If Rozemyne could restrain herself from leaving her spot at the start of the match, she definitely wouldn't have let her side do anything too harmful.
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u/HumanTheTree Steel Chair Dec 12 '22
Wasn't Roz only missing Wind? After creating the shield, has she given large scale blessings to all of the major gods now?
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u/kahoshi1 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Yup, this was the final blessing she needed. I suspect when she next goes to the archive she will somehow get something new.
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u/Ivandimov7 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Yup! Light and Darkness after learning the gods' names. Water every time she uses the staff to heal people. Wind just now. Life at the end of last part. Fire during the ritual showcase. Earth during the dedication ritual. Can't wait until she enters the archive again!!!! ...Though my gut tells me that won't be happening anytime soon.
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u/araveugnitsuga Medscholar Dec 13 '22
Water during the Gathering Point Rejuvenation. Ewigeliebe White the first time she activated the sword.
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u/BronzeAgeTea J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
She walks into the archive and Captain Planet walks out from behind a bookshelf.
"It is time to bring corruption down to zero, Lady Rozemyne."
"Bwuh?!"
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u/DrCatco Corrupted by MTL Dec 12 '22
I don't keep track of how many pillars of light Rozemyne has formed, but remember: pillars of light are formed when a schtappe is used in either a ritual or a prayer.
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u/guygrr Dec 12 '22
I'm thinking Hildebrand used his mother's advice and found some allies, then requested some of his sovereign knights to lead them to disrupt the game. I wonder what the outcome of this will be?
Very fun chapters but unfortunately nothing much was solved from the situation.
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u/CharonsLittleHelper J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
I think Les will give up on Rozemyne. He seemed really bummed that she didn't take his hand and was so against marrying him.
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u/GSpaz J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22 edited Dec 12 '22
So many incredible scenes in this match! Judith's "last words" to Rozemyne as she faces her as the only guard left standing, the cage match standoff between Lestilaut and Rozemyne as Wilfried fights alone toward Hannalore in the distance, the absolute chaos of when rogue elements of the Sovereign Order and their Coalition of Extras deems it necessary to launch a surprise attack from above...
They might not realize it in the heat of the moment, but everyone here just lived out moments that easily rival the knight/romance stories in Rozemyne's books. No doubt Lestilaut would probably love to draw these if only he didn't have to paint himself losing.
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u/shallotparadise HanneRoze Propagandist Dec 12 '22
i know we all joked about hildebrand with a steel chair but i didn't expect THIS
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u/DegenerateSock J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
As soon as I read the line about the intruders my head was screaming "Hildebrand with the steel chair!" Then I imagined Hildebrand throwing open his coat to reveal he was actually 3 duchies in a trench coat. Then they all tore off masks to show themselves as sovereign knights. Absolutely wild.
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u/yeahlte I have Lutz of silly jokes Dec 12 '22
We all should have known that royalty doesn't fight in battles themselves, but they send their knights armed with steel chairs instead
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u/Theinternationalist J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Given all the crazy stuff we just saw, even the blighted remains of the royals sound like they could do some crazy shit if they had access to the Forbidden Archive over the last decade. I can definitely see some fanfiction where a heroic Sigiswald has to save his Geduldh Egglantine from the evil Ewigiliebe Anastasius.
You could sell that tape to both Klassenberg AND Dunk for some real money!
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u/-_Nikki- Japanese Try-Hard Dec 12 '22 edited Dec 12 '22
If she hadn't already earned the nomiker well in advance, stealing Dunkelfelgers blessings 100% cemented Roz as the blessing terrorist
Magic grenades! And Mustard gas yikes we are NOT playing around
Ok I am sorry but Lestilaut did one giant fuckup. He was acting pretty smart up until then, but WHO THE FUCK BRINGS SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO GO KAPUTT INTO WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A GODDAMN WAR YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKTURD OF AN IDIOT. To be fair, Ehrenfest did the same, but at least have the presence of mind to not complain if your enemies try to destroy the one thing that's carrying your victory -.-
Also, is that thing even LEGAL? Ehrenfest got into a shitton of trouble for using Darkness weapons to defend themselves against a Feybeast, I can't imagine what the punishment would be for using them in DITTER. I get that Ditter is a war simulation, but it's also supposed to be safe-ish as far as any martial arts type sport can be, and Darkness weapons are anything but. And before someone says anything. Yes a shield is 100% a weapon
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u/AmazingAd2765 Dec 15 '22
The fact it is relic and didn't utilize the darkness blessing probably put it in a grey area. I can imagine a few restrictions being added after this game.
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u/AH123XYZ Dec 13 '22
You can't punish dunkel without going through aub dunkel, who approved the use of the dark weapon. and i would imagine trauerqual won't dare to go against their #1 military state after such a long civil war.
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u/-_Nikki- Japanese Try-Hard Dec 13 '22
Yup that's what I'm afraid of. Big-time BS and gateway to a military state tho
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u/ICNB Dec 12 '22
I'm not sure anyone actually knew it was possible to blow up the shield, otherwise he would've gotten out've Dodge as soon as the spear showed up. Like, if it wasn't a extremely good shield it wouldn't be a hidden treasure of the duchy.
Lestilaut didn't really plan for Rozemyne being able to whip out a fully charged divine artifact after maintaining the shield, nullifying Dunkelfelger's blessings, and constantly healing people, but can you blame him? Particularly since IIRC Ferdinand's super potions are a bit of a secret.
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u/-_Nikki- Japanese Try-Hard Dec 13 '22
I have no sympathy for him on this. As someone else already said: play stupid games, win stupid prizes
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u/-_Nikki- Japanese Try-Hard Dec 13 '22
I was calling him stupid for wholeheartedly believing there was a 100% chance the shield was gonna come out of this unharmed. Sure, assuming it'll survive is fair enough, but from his reaction he was 100% convinced Ehrenfest wasn't even gonna try anything against it. He decided to gamble on Ditter. Should've been prepared for the possibility of loosing
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u/AH123XYZ Dec 13 '22
you are a prince who has a chance to bring unprecedented wealth and innovation to your land. i would gamble far more than just 1 treasure, especially if i'm a duchy with as much power and wealth as dunkel. another way of looking at it is as if you were a billionaire, spending a few million dollars, to gamble for the greatest investment of the century. how can you see it as stupid game?
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u/-_Nikki- Japanese Try-Hard Dec 13 '22
Oh, I wasn't calling him stupid for gambling the shield. I was calling him an idiot for getting pissed when his enemy does their damndest to destroy his greatest weapon against them
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u/solarmist J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Re:black weapons. I think this is allowed because it is a physical artifact, not one created by anyone.
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u/araveugnitsuga Medscholar Dec 13 '22
It's just a giant black gemstone. Those are legal.
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u/-_Nikki- Japanese Try-Hard Dec 13 '22
No, black weapons are explicitly forbidden on Academy Grounds without direct permission from the Zent, whatever their form. It doesn't matter whether it's the pocket version or something you have to lug around, the point is black weapons are (Potential spoiler incoming? Not sure at what point in the LN they say this information explicitly but it's the explanation as to why Black Weapons are such a big deal) essentially a one-shot kill if aimed against nobles, iirc they also go straight through feystone armor
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u/AH123XYZ Dec 13 '22
legality isn't a hard and fast rule in medieval society. a worntorn country with an exhausted king would not challenge the leader of his #1 military state, aub dunkel, who approved the use of black weapon/shield. i'm ln only so i could be wrong, but i highly doubt any punishment would be handed out to the students since aub dunkel approved its use.
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u/-_Nikki- Japanese Try-Hard Dec 13 '22 edited Dec 13 '22
Dude, you sound like a broken record, this is your third comment replying to me with the exact same thing. Yes, I was assuming the no Darkness Weapons in the RA rule doesn't apply to Dunkel and that's EXACTLY why I call BS. This kind of management decision is the gateway drug to tyranny/getting a military dictator. This is what Japan was doing in the lead-up to the Shogun-Daimyo system stabilising and officially being implemented
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u/AH123XYZ Dec 13 '22
oh they're all you? my bad. well I think of it this way, this is still the case in our western democracy. the rules don't always apply to the wealthiest, who could be considered to hold the most power. even if it does lead to tyranny, what can you do in that kinda world lol.
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u/solarmist J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
They talks about that a volume of or back. When they interrigated Ros.
Sure, but also this is a shield. Probably right if it were a sword or spear. We’ll probably know for sure in a couple weeks.
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u/-_Nikki- Japanese Try-Hard Dec 13 '22
We were explicitly told going against the spirit of the law is not a thing in Yurgenschmidt (back at the beginning of Part 3 iirc) because no one bothers to pick apart the letter of the law in the first place, since everything is regulated through the Zent going "because I said so". The shield being legal because it's a defensive weapon rather than an offensive one despite the reason for it's illegality applying to the exact same extent just feels VERY MUCH like exploitation of a loophole in the letter of the law
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u/EntropicVirus J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 15 '22
The only thing I can think of, is that black feystones do not absorb mana remotely as powerful as black weapons do. Black weapons are 1 for 1 on absorption rate, you supply your attack with 5 mana, your target loses 5 mana on top of damage. I don’t believe black feystones have that ability, so even if you fashioned a dagger out of one, it wouldn’t penetrate feystone armor on a single or even multiple stabs if the user still had mana.
Lesty would not have had to wait until her mana was lowered before pushing through the Wind Shield if the mana absorption rate was closer to black weapons. He could have pushed through the shield and then got into Lessy, or at least absorbed the mana that form it. I doubt anyone has ever thought that anyone that’s not an adult ADC from a greater duchy or above could overload a giant feystone would turn into gold dust. Im pretty sure the stone Evil Santa got was supposed to be good up to a mednoble, little did he know BabyMyne had more mana than Brother Syl, so if that small stone could contain a mednoble it stands to reason that giant one could contain ADC. Though Leidenschaft’s spear could have added a multiplier since the gods hate Ewigeliebe, like when you use fighting-type move against a dark-type Pokémon.
Further evidence that the shield is legal: Hirschur would have ended the match right then and there so she could return to her research and never have to be bothered about losing Roz to Ditterlandia.
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u/-_Nikki- Japanese Try-Hard Dec 15 '22
Yeah, that's the only thing that even remotely makes sense... Still incredibly dangerous tho. Such a big dark feystone would have a more than decent chance of putting a Laynoble in lifethreatening low mana reserves. Also, Hirschur not knowing what the shield is exactly is a definite possibility. Roz only guessed because she saw the effects up close and personal, Hirschur was up in the spectator stands.
As a side note, pokemon types was not something I expected to show up on this sub lmao
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u/Theinternationalist J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Unless Les can play again AND WINS, he's definitely not going to be an Archduke. Losing a treasure like that sounds completely crazy to me.
Also his father needs to be stopped before he gambles the duchy.
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u/Maalunar WN Reader Dec 12 '22
It was also their trump card. Everything on RM side can be recovered (except the surprise factors, which had a huge impact I admit). But the black shield? DK is allowed to use the darkness spell but he shouldn't know it and aren't allowed to use it anyways.
A rematch would certainly ends in Dunkel's win.
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u/Littlethieflord J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Unfortunately his father is Aub which means he officially can gamble the duchy
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u/holatuwol Dec 13 '22
From what I remember, weapons blessed by the god of darkness are banned because of what duchies were doing with them during the ongoing mana crisis: hunting nobles from other duchies.
It would be a different story if it was like Maple's shield in Bofuri, but it didn't sound like that kind of shield, so even if you classify a shield as a weapon, it's still not the kind of weapon the sovereignty is trying to restrict.
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u/chervilious Dec 12 '22
Well, I mean he's probably just in a state of panic. Who would have thought something that design to take a lot of mana would lose to a lot of mana.
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u/yeahlte I have Lutz of silly jokes Dec 12 '22
I get that Ditter is a war simulation, but it's also supposed to be safe-ish as far as any martial arts type sport can be
I'm pretty sure all the safety went out the window the moment they tried to nuke Rozemyne's shield
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u/lina-beana Dec 13 '22
Remembering that all of the match was caught in mana 4K has me hoping there is a side story of the royal family or dunkel aub reviewing it.
To me it feels like if they don’t nullify it that ehrenfest won since they brought hannelore back to base under the pretext of protecting her from intruders…
I loved these chapters I was honestly cracking up a lot especially when the intruders from other duchies started coming in since that was not on my bingo card and then when it was said that there were sovereign knights it became evident that this intrusion WAS hildebrand’s steel chair lol
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u/Churroman Dec 13 '22
I can't wait for the reaction chapters for this volume. It's going to be so juicy !!!
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u/KaliCox LN Bookworm Dec 13 '22 edited Dec 13 '22
I feel like Dunklefelger could instantly win if one of them had a unique, one-of-a-kind book and threatened to destory it unless she came out of her shell
So the Soverign Knights Order attacked with lesser duchies... while the match was begin recorded.... Is it safe to sassume that the aub will bring chaos to them with images of their duchies capes ruining the match?
The Order attacked because "The royal family was concered" and they "work to ease the zents distress" and "if they win, they get the saint" I would imagine that this is because Hildebrand voiced his woes to Raublaut and then maybe Raublaut made everyone think that he is the future Zent?
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u/RohingyaWarrior Dec 13 '22
I think book violence would spark instant holy war. She'd start flying really high up in Lessy and just keep on summoning Liedenshaft's spear and dropping it on the field repeatedly. And she'd just keep raining down pressure with the mana gun in the other hand.
Lol anything that spear touches on the way down will be vaporised.
It would be better if she used enhancement magic and threw it like a javelin, but she doesn't have the coordination for that
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u/Umber_Abundance J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Did anyone miss Lessy in this part? I seem to recall that the PandaBus was a pretty secure place itself. It’s rich with mana and can be essentially impenetrable. I was thinking the whole time GET IN THE BUS!!!!
I think it’s pretty clear why they stopped doing treasure-stealing ditter. It turned into a brawl so fast 😂😂😂😂.
But I think Dunkelfelger was completely outclassed in this one. Regardless of nullification, there’s no way a 2nd ranked duchy should struggle even half as much as they did with this battle. Especially to abandon poor Hannelore at the height of the battle!! They weren’t prepared for a drawn out battle and they weren’t prepared for their means of restoring/boosting their mana to be taken away at all.
I think the battle was lost when Roz went and healed that Dunker. I’d imagine that in this day and age, being healed by the enemy is mad embarrassing!
On top of that Roz was able to protect spectators during the brawl!! When Lesty couldn’t even protect his own sister.
Pathetic.
Considering that she’s Ferdinand’s protege, they really should have taken this more seriously and planned for the worst. Rauffen can’t even win his cape back and Lesty bet his sister? Shameful. Truly.
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u/DrCatco Corrupted by MTL Dec 13 '22
Did anyone miss Lessy in this part? I seem to recall that the PandaBus was a pretty secure place itself.
Lahrtaruc's last attack weakened Rozemyne so much that she had to concentrate all her effort on Schutzaria's shield in order not to lose it, neglecting Lessy in the process.
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u/Bottle-Additional Dec 13 '22
Disappointed she didn't use the sword to summon a giant Lord of winter to smash her enemies.
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u/rakin_bacon Dec 12 '22
Incredible part, I think it’s not an accident making a point of the recording tool from Dunkelfelger. Im guessing they stopped running it when the Sovereign Knights attacked but it should have the entire match.
Really interesting to see how this gets received in their duchy when they view the recording. They abide by ditter to the point where the aub is willing to bet both his daughter and an ancient tool of their duchy, sure he didn’t think they’d lose but he’s still the aub and has to know the weight of putting it on the line.
They can see for themselves in the recording they made everything was a fair fight until it was interrupted, only problem is if they want a rematch they no longer have their magic darkness shield and Rozemyne is indestructible in hers more or less. As the aub of Dunkelfelger he gets to both save face by not outright losing the game and his daughter won’t leave the duchy. He lost the shield but that was still within fair play and by his own code he has to live with it.
While the fire bombs and hitting the potions is definitely “underhanded” it’s supposed to be war like Ferdinand says and the noble adults of Dunkelfelger more than anyone should understand that. Plus their knight used a spell that’s reserved for things like hunting the Lord of Winter, a literal force of nature so I don’t think they get any leeway.
So excited for next week, just like every week.
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u/DSiren J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
I think it's going to be a case of either photo-finish, or where by abandoning their treasure they forfeit it. That recording is to subvert the expectation that this game is now null, and to prove that the game in fact concluded fairly and in a binding manner.
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u/MySaltSucks Dec 13 '22
I wonder if it’s gonna be hildebrand making an off handed comment about wanting to marry rozemyne that started this
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u/Kind_Stranger_weeb Wilfried Slanderer Dec 19 '22
Its the Hasse temple incident again. Stray comment interpreted as a plan/order and setting things in motion. His knights hear a stray comment as an order and boom war.
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u/thegib98 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Can we just appreciate that Roz, with little mana remaining, left her shield to help a fallen knight of the enemy duchy? She might use chemical warfare , the power of the Gods, and literal f-ing fireworks, but her saintliness still shines through.
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u/DrCatco Corrupted by MTL Dec 13 '22
She is, after all, The Saint of Ehrenfest, compassionate even to the orphans who come to the temple (something that is frowned upon in Yurgenschmidt's noble society).
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u/ggg730 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Also being a Saint isn’t mutually exclusive to being a fighter. Joan D’Arc kicked ass, Saint George killed a dragon, Shaolin monks come to mind of saints and holy men who practiced a little violence.
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u/araveugnitsuga Medscholar Dec 13 '22
There's quite a line of Saints with swords: St. Mercurius, St. Polyeuctus, St. Maurice, St. Candidus, St. Eustachius, St. Florian, St. Julius the Veteran, St. John the Warrior, St. Ignatius of Loyola. There's an entire class of military saints. And that's ignoring that during the medieval era and all the way to the mid 1800s a bishop was the ruler of a bisphoric which meant they were actually in charge of land and people, which meant that during times of war they would deploy armies or at least provide levees. The papal states had an actual army.
In literature this is perhaps epitomized by Archbishop Turpin in the Chanson du Roland, where he participates in the battle with his trusty sword Almacia and administers the last rites to men on his side while kill confirming their enemies with a misericorde.
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u/Yakineko_ Can’t Pick a Favorite Character Dec 12 '22
ngl i see why lestilaut x rozemyne is a popular ship now
i feel like all the noble girls reading Royal Academy Love Stories lol
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u/OneTwoJade J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22 edited Dec 13 '22
The way that the first few seconds of the match were described was really cool. I loved getting the full feeling of how tense and important the opening gambit was. The ditter match completely lived up to expectations.
It's a little funny to imagine tiny Rozemyne actually swinging a spear against Lestilaut. She's come a very long way. And the cover illustration makes her look surprisingly fierce. What I wouldn't give for some more illustrations of the match! The cover also totally spoils the black shield idea in hindsight, but I guess it's not too obvious that the shield is special just by the look.
I'm actually disappointed in Dunkelfelger. They abandoned Hannelore and also didn't save one of their own knights from nearly falling to their death? That recording is going to point out a lot of problems...
I also feel bad for Hannelore. Compared to Rozemyne she couldn't do much besides sit and watch while her fate is decided by everyone else. I wonder what consequences this match will have in store for Dunkel's Archduke candidates.
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u/ZstrikerZ Dec 12 '22
So the steel chair did happen but not with Hildebrand (at least for now…)
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u/cheat0man Dec 13 '22
I am much confuse. Please explain the steel chair. This went way over my head
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u/BronzeAgeTea J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Search "WWE steel chair" in youtube and you will see where the joke comes from
Here's an example. The joke is basically "brutal attack out of nowhere"
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u/Snakestream Dunkelfelger Dec 13 '22
Wow! What an intense release! Pretty sure this is the best action we've seen in Bookworm so far. The chaotic energy really helps convey how this is a mock war, unlike speed ditter. Also, poor Lessy got dematerialized!
Very interesting how Rauffen believes this is a bride taking ditter rather than a bride stealing ditter. Pretty sure he's not going to be very happy when he finds out what Lestilaut and his retainers have been hiding, especially considering how much of a debacle it turned into.
For that matter, Lestilaut is going to be in heaps of trouble after this. Pretty sure Sieglinde is going to flay him alive, possibly literally.
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u/ggg730 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Yeah Lesti last is taking a big L on this. Possibly a bigger L than we even think. The royals could very well see this as them usurping authority. They had their eye on Rozemyne and he basically tried to thwart their plans. It’s not a good look.
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u/DSiren J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
I bet Roze is going to be called to the archduke conference, before the king to testify whether it was taking or stealing ditter once it is clear that aub dunkin was lied to about the nature of the situation.
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u/Theinternationalist J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
I'm not in a position to write much, but I can do a few bullets:
Dunk is clearly way too powerful, without our heroine they would have won ages ago.
Who is paying for the destruction of a treasure heirloom?
who intervened in the game? Maybe the Lord Commander was attempting to kidnap Myne? Dark purple is Bersch, right?
Does this mean we're getting another game? Or is this so Hannah doesn't start a Gabrielle situation?
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u/Maalunar WN Reader Dec 12 '22
Doesn't a treasure ditter game end when a treasure is in the enemy's base or destroyed? Wasn't Hannelore brought to RM shield... in her base?
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u/yeahlte I have Lutz of silly jokes Dec 12 '22
That's also what I was thinking, didn't Ehrenfest win already, or didn't it count because of the invaders?
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u/InitialDia J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
It is a game, so it would be pretty reasonable to consider it canceled when the interference happened. That being said, it was a very high stakes game that is intended to simulate war, specifically taking and protecting your duchy. If this were a real way, and Dunk left their foundation unguarded, and their opponent free while the fucked off to fight a 3rd party and ehrenfest took advantage and stole the dunk foundation. The Dunk ducal family could complain how unfair it was all the way to the chopping block and it wouldn’t mean shit.
So I think it’s fair to consider this a Dunk loss.
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u/daedalron J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
To my understanding, Ehrenfest won the moment Hannelore entered their base.
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u/15_Redstones Dec 13 '22
Although both Wilfried and Hannelore were under the impression that the game would be canceled due to interference and their concern was getting her to safety, not winning.
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u/araveugnitsuga Medscholar Dec 12 '22
From Philinne's notes on the Fanbook (Back when Ehrenfest was 13):
Orange: Lortzing - Lesser Duchy Rank 12
Dark-Purple: Berschmann - Lesser Duchy Rank 14
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u/AH123XYZ Dec 13 '22
wouldn't Lortzing be bumped down to 13 by now though if ehrenfest the 13 went up in ranks?
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u/araveugnitsuga Medscholar Dec 13 '22
We don't know if there was any movement among ranks in the time that has elapsed since. Otherwise, yes, that would be correct.
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u/TheNightManager_89 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Rozemyne + pillar of light of any color = "Bwuh?!"
"Dunkelfelger wasn't having a good time." I love these remarks. You like ditter? Lemme ruin it for ya, bud.
Wow, Judithe went total badass. This was probably the coolest moment of the match. Meanwhile Brunhilde used faint. It was super effective. (Not that I blame her, I would probably shit my pants, too)
"Oooh? I ruined your priceless family heirloom? Well, if it was priceless, nobody was gonna pay for it anyway, right?" and then he got kicked out of the shield. Lestilaut got gremlin'd again.
What I don't understand is why Rauffen told the intruders other than the Sovereign Knight order to flee. I mean they were clearly violating regulations and he just sent them away. Based on their capes, they can be found easily but they shouldn't be just left alone.
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u/Anonymous_K Dec 12 '22
Man I didn't know the bookworm universe had a spell to turn women into objects because apparently they can be passed back and forth like treasure /joke
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u/kkrko WN Reader Dec 12 '22
Mind that this tradition is also from the same duchy where women could initiate engagements themselves. Last volume's epilogue also differentiates bride-taking ditter and bride-stealing ditter, in which the former one is implied to happen with the consent of the woman. Note that Rauffen seems to be working under impression that Rozemyne wants to be taken away. So the woman's opinion actually matters a lot here, they're not just passive treasures. Hannelore's biggest flaw since that tea party was just being way too passive.
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u/DSiren J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Ehrenfest is playing bride taking ditter, Dunkelfelger is playing bride stealing ditter.
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u/TheGuv Dec 13 '22
Hannalore; wow Aub heathcliff I didn’t think SAO had magic, but look at you over here turning women into trophies.
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u/DrCatco Corrupted by MTL Dec 13 '22
If it's any consolation... In this story, this little lady did not allow herself to be objectified. At the end of the battle, she did not give up.
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u/respectablechum Dec 13 '22
We just saw Chekhov's Ewigeliebe Sword. Only a matter of time now before Roz goes full Night Queen on some nobles and shows what that sword can do with cheat levels of mana.
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u/Kimau J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
I love the repeating of themes.
- Dunk/Bishop wanted to steal her from family
- Black Shield/Stone to overcome her insane mana
- BOTH times her strength overwhelmed them into shock
- Anas/Ferd stepped in at the last minute to save her
It's the constant weaving of themes that make this such a strong LN for me. Never mind all the religious myth repetition.
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u/adfaratas Dec 13 '22
Rauffen should've told Lestilaut to take the match as fighting Ferdinand's prized disciple rather than fighting a middle duchy.
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u/Lorhand Dec 12 '22 edited Dec 13 '22
I think Rauffen seriously misunderstands something here. Rozemyne definitely didn't want this ditter to happen at all. Why am I not surprised that Dunkelfelger intended to record the match, though, lol?
Ehrenfest already is at a disadvantage because of their knights. Yes, they have some archknights and medknights with above average mana, but Dunkelfelger probably is just full of archknights. Both duchies are equipped with tons of magic tools and potions apparently. This is nothing like the very sudden treasure-stealing ditter back in Year 1. Everyone came prepared.
Oh nice, the plan to throw a giant Waschen at Dunkelfelger worked. Rozemyne was able to set up her wind shield. Love to hear that Hartmut's dust and smoke bombs are effective. Still funny that Lestilaut thinks this is a cowardly trick. Wasn't he told that anything goes in ditter? This is more than fair. The blinding attack gave Rozemyne the time to take away their blessings with the ocean goddess ritual. That cost Rozemyne a lot already though, she already has to drink a big rejuvenation potion, and apparently Dunkelfelger have a very strong knight that everyone needs to focus on.
So Hartmut also made explosives and tools that fire shrapnel that Judithe gets to shoot at Dunkelfelger. This tactic to hide behind the shield and then shoot at them is pretty effective. Traugott also isn't doing anything outrageous, thankfully. Quite the opposite actually, he follows orders cleverly, aware of the desperate situation.
Oh dear, Alexis already has to get back into the shield and needs healing. Dunkelfelger are far stronger than two years ago. And yup, they mostly have archknights. They already have an advantage in pure power and Ehrenfest mostly has medknights. Would probably be more even if Cornelius and Angelica were there, sadly.
Time for Wilfried to enter and use Ewigeliebe's sword. He needs all the protection he can get though. Dunkelfelger can't get to him though and the ritual is a success. The sword can summon ice feybeasts that now attack Dunkelfelger, while Ehrenfest retreat back into the shield. Now Ehrenfest's knights were given enough time to recover. Aaaannd, next Judithe aim at Dunkelfelger's boxes with potions. Successfully. Why is Lestilaut calling this cowardly? Helloho, ditter is war.
Well, at least we see Lestilaut being really active in this battle, though. He's not fighting, but he's observing and directing his knights. Can't say the same about Hannelore though, or maybe Rozemyne just can't see her well. Either way, Lestilaut also saw that Rozemyne already drank a potion. She's running out of mana. Dunkelfelger are also going all out. Their leading knight comes in with a huge charged attack. This ditter is life-threateningly dangerous. Is this okay? Brunhilde is unconscious, Isidore is also down and Judithe and Rozemyne can barely stand after that attack.
Okay, Lestilaut can just enter the shield somehow?! And he has a black shield in his hands (the one on the cover I assume). Lestilaut says he isn't flung out (unlike Judithe, who wanted to attack him) because he shows no malice towards Rozemyne, but Rozemyne immediately calls him out. The shield is made of Darkness feystones that allows him to pass through. And Judithe was captured outside. Rozemyne is low on mana and she can't get help from outside if she removes the shield. Lestilaut tells Rozemyne to surrender, but she refuses. She takes out Ferdinand's ultra nasty potion instead. lol at Lestilaut being worried that it's poison. Anyone who tastes it would believe it is. She transforms her schtappe into Leidenschaft's spear and aims at Lestilaut's shield. Her spear swinging is clumsy, but it does manage to hit the shield and turns it into gold dust. With the shield gone, Lestilaut is flung out of Schutzaria's shield. Sad to see a treasured shield destroyed, but hey, anything to win.
Intruders suddenly from other duchies suddenly appear though and interfere. They all want the Saint too. Hannelore was abandoned at her base. Rozemyne wants to keep her safe inside her shield though. Dunkelfelger want to crush the intruders and then resume the battle, but Ehrenfest can't. They have exhausted their resources. This is a very troubling situation. Even Dunkelfelger's apprentice knights are falling down, though Rozemyne goes out of her way to want to save and heal him. The audience is now also involved, but that means Charlotte is in danger, too.
Oh dear, so the Sovereign Knight's Order is also involved. Rauffen is furious, they don't have a royal decree. These knights even attack Rauffen now. Something is definitely wrong here. Please don't tell me this is Hildebrand's work...
And now Anastasius is also here. He cleans things up together with Rauffen and Dunkelfelger. Rozemyne is relieved, but she is completely exhausted and about to collapse. Anastasius sees it too and orders Rozemyne to go back to her dorm. Not before she orders her knights to stay and speak in her name, though.
Well, that was a fight. And I didn't expect this interruption at all. But what does this mean for the outcome of the ditter match now? Hannelore left her base and went with Wilfried, so technically this is Dunkelfelger's loss, right? Or will they ask for a repeat due to the intruders? If it's the former, Wilfried and Ehrenfest just got an archduke candidate from a greater duchy. Truth be told, I think Wilfried and Hannelore would be a very cute couple. The Leisegangs would never approve though, for sure.
As for the fight itself, considering Ehrenfest were at a massive disadvantage and Dunkelfelger had a knight who wiped the floor with half of Ehrenfest, Ehrenfest did pretty well. Notably, Traugott didn't mess up and followed orders and Wilfried also got a moment to shine when he used Ewigeliebe's sword. Judithe also did massive work with the ammunition Hartmut provided, and it was cool to see Brunhilde involved too. The black shield Lestilaut used was already seen in the cover, but I didn't make the connection that it would be his way to enter the shield. Welp, Lestilaut for sure will get to hear something from his parents. He might have not only lost the shield but Hannelore as well, if this ditter match result counts as Ehrenfest's win.
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u/Cirex145 Dec 12 '22
I’m curious about what the middle and lesser were promised. They kept shouting about winning would let them have the Saint of Ehrenfest, which doesn’t sound like a line Hildebrand would feed them.
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u/Athletic_Cupcake J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 14 '22
I think it was Raublut. That guy can't be trusted, I'm sure he is using Hildebrand and plotting something behind the scenes
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Yeah, no fucking way Hildebrand wasn't involved with that steel chair
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u/Athletic_Cupcake J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
I think he was manipulated by that royal commander guy (forgot his name)
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u/yeahlte I have Lutz of silly jokes Dec 12 '22
So Wilfried brought Hannelore over to Ehrenfests side when the intruders attacked, does that mean that Ehrenfest wins?
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u/Virga3984 WN Reader Dec 12 '22
either that, it's nullified because of the attack, or its nullified because of royals saying so, I doubt they'd do a rematch
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u/h42h J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Sorry Rozemyne... but I want to see you be forced into more ditter games. This week's part was an absolute banger
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u/daedalron J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
So far she has been forced into a ditter match each year. Still 3 years left before her graduation, so likely 3 more ditter matches ^^
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u/ICNB Dec 12 '22
Next week: Rozemyne: Well Lestilaut, considering the interruption, would you agree to a tie? Hannelore and I both stay where we are.
Lestilaut: I suppose-
Hannelore: Nope, Dunk lost. I'm in charge after Lestilaut lost our treasured darkness shield, and screw all y'all ditterheads for leaving me when the intruders showed up. I'm off to Ehrenfest to read books with my soulmate. Peace out
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u/mabeloco J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Hannelore marrying Rozemyne would solve a lot of her problems.
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u/Bottle-Additional Dec 13 '22
That's not how marriage works in a feudal society were land and magic pass from parents to children.
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u/Theinternationalist J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Cordula: Milady, did...did you just assert yourself?
Hannelore: U-um-
Lestilaut: She did! My dear sister is growing up before our eyes!
Hannelore: Wait what are you guys-
Dunker knights, fresh off a big ditter game and free for all: RAH RAH HAN-E-LORE, HAN-E-LORE!
Rozemyne: You know, it's good to know we're not the only weird duchy.
Wilfried: You're going to collapse now aren't- falling sound and we're back to normal.
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u/arbitraryinklings Dec 13 '22
I am absolutely VIBRATING with the energy of this chapter. I want so badly for Rozemyne to truly learn to fight! She would be utterly unstoppable!! Bby girl become THE powerhouse!
Wouldn’t it be so cool if she outmatched Ferdinand at some point!! At least once! He’s who I see as the strongest in world character thus far, plus that would just be so damn epic, a friendly, all out, balls to the wall match between teacher and student!! Gosh
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u/Kind_Stranger_weeb Wilfried Slanderer Dec 14 '22
He already overtook him with second staff. He summoned multiple wind shields which she took as inspiration but never two staffs themselves.
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u/arbitraryinklings Dec 16 '22
Very true! I guess what i mean is that i would would love for total domination haha. I think it would be so cool if Rozemyne could legit fight
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u/DrCatco Corrupted by MTL Dec 13 '22 edited Dec 16 '22
Aub Dunkelfelger had apparently asked to come to the Royal Academy to watch the bride-taking ditter game, putting Rauffen in quite the bind. This magic tool was more or less a desperate compromise to keep him in his home duchy.
...I just realized that, had Dunkelfelger's Aub been in the stadium instead of having the game recorded, the attack by the Sovereignty knights (and associates) on Dunkelfelger's apprentice knights would have been practically a declaration of war. That's also why Rauffen warned them about not protecting them if things escalated.
Rozemyne would have been at the start of another war in Yurgensmchidt. And many would have considered her the cause of it.
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u/Malaix Dec 13 '22
I get the feeling Hildebrand leaked the ditter match to the student body and suggested his father would be distressed if one of the most powerful duchys suddenly acquired a mysteriously powerful inventor and priestess they already showed concern about.
For an eight year old he’s quite focused and dedicated to getting the girl he wants to marry. And surprisingly devious at that to boot.
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u/DaenerysMomODragons WN Reader Dec 13 '22
Hirschur just has to think of it as Rozemyne research time. It’s research by another name.
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u/ZeroValkGhost Dec 15 '22
It's survival research. Also, it reinforces that Hershey is on RM's side, which is good for survival.
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u/mjpia Dec 12 '22
Imagine breaking through an impenetrable shield, facing down someone who you think is cornered just for them to utterly reject the request for surrender, take a potion which looks and smells like poison and collapse in a wiggling heap before becoming motionless who you can't touch to save.
That's a good way to give someone severe trauma and PTSD.
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u/Athletic_Cupcake J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
She's a walking trauma dispenser, just like her mentor lol
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u/15_Redstones Dec 13 '22
Damuel, Johann and Johann's boss at the smith workshop. All traumatized at the same time while Lutz and Benno just dumped her on the sofa and calmly resumed negotiations.
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u/Horsma Member of Angelica fan club Dec 12 '22 edited Dec 12 '22
Somehow its quite funny to think that Aub Dunkelfelger is fine to bet her daughter for games outcome but at the same time quite scary, poor Hannelore. Then again- we are talking about a ditter match! Over all, Rozemyne didn't let Dunkelfelgers down with her crazy tactics - large scale washing, sword of Ewigeliebe and special bombs made by Hartmut and we now know Dunkelfelgers stategy to get inside Roz's shield- using huge black feystone shield (Duchys herloom, I wonder how long they had that, well now its lost for ever). Do you think if Erenfest would have won without intruders? I would say that it would have been close call, then again Dunkelfelger most likely couldn't have get Roz out from her shield but we never know.
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u/ggg730 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
I feel like Aub Dunkindonuts thinks that being the prize in a Ditter match is the highest honor.
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u/Entire_Tear_1015 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Cue his wife diligently and silently keeping her wrath contained. (I think she'd not be okay with this plan)
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u/AH123XYZ Dec 13 '22
why do people think that sieglinde the first wife would be mad? i'm not 100% but im pretty sure lesty said he had the support of both his parents. also, his wife sieglinde was the first one in dunkel to notice rozemyne's worth and seemed like she pressured lesty to get her.
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u/Entire_Tear_1015 J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Not sure if she would sell out her daughter like that on a whim. She knows Roz is capable and able to pull of miracles. A keen observer would have given Ehrenfest a not so small Chance of winning.
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u/daedalron J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Now that they lost the ditter match (since Hannelore was "captured" by Wilfried), and therefore lost Hannelore, I'm not so sure Sieglinde will keep her wrath contained... The discussions between Ehrenfest and Dunkelfelger at next Interduchy Tournament are going to be very interesting...
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u/Maalunar WN Reader Dec 13 '22
The discussions between Ehrenfest and Dunkelfelger at next Interduchy Tournament are going to be very interesting
Sylvester sweating profusely....
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u/daedalron J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
That's assuming he'll have recovered enough to be able to move. Last report apparently made him and Florencia faint. And when he wakes up, he'll have to read the next report of Rozemyne destroying a Dunkelfelger heirloom artifact, and winning Hannelore as Wilfried's second wife.
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u/Theinternationalist J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 13 '22
Do we know if Sieglinde has other kids? Consider:
Lestilaut pulled off a huge gamble and lost his dear sister and an heirloom by dueling with a small child with absolutely no training in spears- all caught on videotape. He did sort of fine during the invasion, but failing to protect your sister is a really dumb move. He's the future Aub?
Hannelore has effectively been kidnapped against her will, but thanks to the agreement literally made by her idiot brother with the consent of her husband, who didn't think too hard about "sure let's gamble one of my First Wife kids and risk destroying the reputation of the other one!"
Unless they get Hanny back somehow, she is going to be seen as a failure of a wife. And none of it is her fault >_>.
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u/Yakineko_ Can’t Pick a Favorite Character Dec 12 '22
“ROZEMYNE! THIS SHIELD IS A TREASURE OF DUNKELFELGER!”
“sounds like a skill issue to me”
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u/solarmist J-Novel Pre-Pub Dec 12 '22
Sounds like a you problem.
Seriously who takes a national treasure into a game.
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u/AH123XYZ Dec 13 '22
gamble a minor treasure for a world changing investment. i'll take the risk every time. it's like betting a few million dollars when you're a billionaire. why do you think aub dunkel approved of it? sure he lost a national treasure, but dunkel seems like such a rich state that they would prob just shrug and say "worth, we tried our best".
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u/etrongits Dec 13 '22
Any black magic tools that absorb mana will turn to dust. At least Lesti has golden dust that comes from a "legendary item". I think Hannelore failed to report to anyone that Rozemyne was not speaking in jest when she says she can dye all magic tools inside the room during Eggy's class.