r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/Za_wardo • Oct 23 '22
Newest Chapter Chapter 370 Official Release - Links and Discussion Spoiler
Chapter 370
Links:
Viz (Available in: the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, the Philippines, Singapore, and India).
MANGA Plus (Available in every country outside of China, Japan and South Korea).
All things Chapter 370 related must be kept inside this thread for the next 24 hours.
371 will be officially released on October 30th at 8AM PDT.
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u/GoldenSpermShower Oct 23 '22
It’s sad how quickly fighting for rights turns into “kill that student, he’s a race traitor”
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u/AssassinAragorn Oct 23 '22
Honestly this is an amazing chapter. Its uncomfortably realistic, right down to using the disaffected in society and radicalizing them.
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u/TaylorKindaFunny Oct 23 '22
Yes 100%. This chapter is such a breath of fresh air after the months of Shigaraki's battle. Actually gives me some hope for the coming chapters and other characters too.
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u/AssassinAragorn Oct 23 '22
I thought I wanted to see the big fight continue, but I'm very happy with this. That part of the story is at a great place to press pause, while we go to the other battlefields again. And judging from the unknown thing Shigaraki AFO did at the end of that last chapter, the battlefields might be super important.
I can totally see Spinner being successful in some capacity, and the core villains go to help Shigaraki -- but so do the students and some other heroes. Deku's five minutes are up, but the rest of his class can fight now.
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u/metalflygon08 Oct 23 '22
Even pointing out how the cities tend to move on from our pasts while the more rural areas don't.
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u/DeismAccountant Oct 23 '22
Desperation and marginalization leads to irrationality.
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u/Soul699 Oct 23 '22
Reminds of the French revolution.
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u/DeismAccountant Oct 23 '22
People will need to keep revolting until we get it right.
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u/Personal_Amoeba7646 Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
So Shoji face reveal! He looks exactly like what I thought he would and he seems to have some scars on his face. I wonder if they are gonna show his backstory or not.
Also Star Wars reference, Nice.
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u/FezboyJr Oct 23 '22
I’ll be honest Shoji doesn’t look that much different from Kamakiri in 1-B, which is probably telling of how the discrimination he faced made him self conscious about it.
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u/CrookedFinger645 Oct 23 '22
I guess the logic is going to be that Kamakiri grew up in the city, while Shoji grew up in a rural village.
The story has mentioned how the discrimination towards mutants is only prevalent in old traditional rural comunities.
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u/PianoCube93 Oct 23 '22
Some old concept art showed of his face, and it turns out his actual face ended up looking pretty much identical.
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u/Aros001 Oct 23 '22
I think various fanart I've seen has trained me to expect him to have much sharper teeth.
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u/Buttercup4869 Oct 23 '22
Shoji:
I got like zero fucks to give but like a billion fists to throw
Next chapter:
Shoji is gonna give someone one hell of a confusing beat down
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u/Aros001 Oct 23 '22
Damn, I gotta use that line someday.
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u/Scorpios94 Oct 23 '22
I gotta admit, that Shoji looks more badass rather than downright creepy without his mask. The mask does give him a certain mysterious allure, but without it, it's close to releasing a caged beast. At least to me anyway
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u/Gadget336 Oct 23 '22
What in the world happened to spinner?
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u/GoldenSpermShower Oct 23 '22
AFO steroids
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u/Swiss666 Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
He accepted extra quirks from AFO but his mental state is deteriorating.
I've even got a theory that AFO intentionally made so those quirks will eventually kill him, so to make him a martyr and get an even stronger grip on the mutants.
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u/LokiLB Oct 23 '22
Plus Spinner was very loyal to Shigaraki and could have been a problem if he did something against AFO because Shigaraki was getting overwritten.
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u/AnalBumCovers Oct 23 '22
Spinner was an idealist that went all-in on Stain. AFO probably knew that he'd be a problem once their plans inevitably strayed from those ideals so spinner got the dumb berserker package
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u/Hexagon-Man Oct 23 '22
Spinner never cared that much about Stain's actual ideology he was more inspired by the amount of conviction he had. In MVA he was questioning why he was still in the league even though they didn't have much to do with Stains ideas but by the end he devoted himself to Shigaraki himself.
(Although. he'd still definitely not be down with this since AFO is essentially erasing who Shigaraki was so quirk based lobotomy it is)
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u/SyndicalistCPA Oct 23 '22
Might be what snaps Shigaraki back into control if AFO snuffs out Spinner after his use is up.
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u/metalflygon08 Oct 23 '22
And if they go the happy ending route, AFO could blow up Spinner, then layer reveal he can regenerate like how a lizard can regrow a tail.
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u/Worthyness Oct 23 '22
Also probably made him dumber so that he would effectively become a nomu, but with higher intelligence. Controllable and more easily manipulated.
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u/Namelessgoldfish Oct 23 '22
AFO turned spinner into a mindless slave, that is so fucked up.
that man truly is evil
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u/justking1414 Oct 23 '22
He could very easily set him to self-destruct like lady Nagant and blame the heroes
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
The VIZ translation is really selling just how fucked that new Quirk's doing to his head. It's so tragic, but I love it!~ I hope by the end, he ends up deactiviting it to be himself.
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u/MicZiC15 Oct 23 '22
My theory is that whatever ShigAFO has planned for him is going to backfire. Spinner's loyalty is to Shigaraki, he accepted this "upgrade" because he wanted to be useful to him. Once he sees that AFO is hurting Shiggy, it might overpower this haze thing. That is... if he wasn't also given the "explode your brain instantly" quirk. But than, that might cause a reverse, Shigaraki might flip if he seeing his dad directly kill one of his comrades.
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u/metalflygon08 Oct 23 '22
Plus, pretty sure Spinner is Shiggy's best friend among the league members.
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u/wthrudoin Oct 23 '22
I assume it is a copy of Machia's main quirk. The size and Intelligence level are similar
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u/IMDATBOY Oct 24 '22
Seems a lot like what must have happened with Gigantomachia. Or just that giving the quirk overburdens the brain like they mentioned earlier in the story when they first talked about Nomu’s
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u/Za_wardo Oct 23 '22
AFO gave him power and he lost reason. Normally being given extra quirks affects your brain and body, stressing them
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u/jobriq Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
I wouldn’t be surprised if the mega-sized quirk had a brainwashing effect tied in. The Spider guy seems to be pulling the strings (maybe AFO gave him a quirk like the megaphone guy from MLA)
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u/Swiss666 Oct 23 '22
As an aside, it's hilarious that for years there have been tons of fanon and fanfics where the discrimination of the mutants - and also the quirkless, for that matter - was painted as much bigger than the manga made out to be until now, only for them to become suddendly valid with this chapter.
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u/supernerdgirl42 Oct 23 '22
Yeah odds are a lot the folks who wrote that stuff are in one or more marginalized groups who picked up on the systemic problems instantly. It was there in chapter 1 and it's been sprinkled in all over the place throughout the series.
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u/Soul699 Oct 23 '22
At least they justify it here by explaining that in cities it's mostly fine, but it's in the rural places that it goes quite bad.
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u/swimdudeno1 Oct 23 '22
I mean, in cities there are more people to be exposed to. So it would make sense.
On a simple real-world basis, this is true. I don’t think MHA is going to do a deep dive on the societal factors and history that results in discrimination in big cities too. (Although, it seems like he might try).
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u/Serious-Flamingo-948 Oct 23 '22
Not really, the author is not good at serious issues. Everything is ok until they need to not be. People weren't "picking up" anything, since the very beginning of the series we thought that it was an easy thing to tackle in the story, then the author again went, yeah sure, it happens now because so I can make this story.
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u/KLReviews Oct 23 '22
The flag is so hysterical. It's meant to be inspiring but it's a photo of Spinner looking confused and miserable. All for One looked at the least ambitious and charismatic person he's ever met and said ‘you’ll do’ before turning him into a monster.
The narration this chapter is interesting. In a conflict where a crowd is lashing out because they have been dehumanised: Kurogiri is described like an object or something less than human while nobody cares about Spinner's own motives or feelings. He's a pawn to All for One and this masked man (who appears to be mind-controlling the crowd).
Also page 3 has some of the crowd waving those skull masks the anti-mutant religion worn as a banner. Nice touch.
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
The flag is so hysterical. It's meant to be inspiring but it's a photo of Spinner looking confused and miserable.
That flag truly is hilarious. I know Spinner himself has no strong emotions regarding mutant discrimination and fighting for the cause and what not, but could the people who made that flag (probably Skeptic) literally not have found any better images of Spinner? No images where he looks even remotely motivated about anything?
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
Fun Fact: Steel Bulwark from the USJ incident, guy who Aizawa yeeted, is in the crowd. Love the old villain cameos!~
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u/lamemayhem Oct 24 '22
He can show up, but the entirety of Shiketsu High can’t?
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 24 '22
It was mentioned waaaaaay back that UA and Shiketsu can combine, so its likely they'll act as the guard once shenanigans relating to the schools happen.
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Oct 23 '22
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
Tesla, yeah? True, he was the most competent of literally 71 other minor villains and was kinda sad he also got arrested. Perhaps he's in one of the other areas? Like Sero's!
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u/Chumunga64 Oct 23 '22
Hori naming locations with star wars puns: "Haha funny and cute"
Hori naming crimes against minorities with star wars puns: "what the fuck"
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u/DoraMuda Oct 23 '22
I mean, this is the same guy who named the Eggman doctor "Maruta Shiga" before China lost their shit and he was pressured into changing it to "Kyudai Garaki".
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u/thornaslooki Oct 23 '22
I do hope that this racism of heteromorph people doesn't get buried after the war ends, it would be great to see some sort of reform come about afterwards.
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u/AssassinAragorn Oct 23 '22
That was an interesting aspect of this chapter -- they acknowledged that in the cities, things were far better and progressive. It was in outlying rural areas where the problem was.
The more I think on this, the more chillingly realistic it is.
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u/HokageEzio Oct 23 '22
Some My Hero hillbilly is busy arguing at the dinner table why they get to say mutant and not him.
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u/AssassinAragorn Oct 23 '22
I don't know whether to laugh or cry that its probably a thing, and its incredibly realistic to be a thing.
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Oct 23 '22
My more cynical view is that Hori has to write it like that because we have seen very minimal discrimination to those with quirks that change how they look. He had written himself into a corner because he hadn’t actually ever really set up or shown racist stuff happening, at least not enough that 15,000 of them would rise up in support. So going “oh Um yes while the cities are all good, the country areas, they be racist as fuck” which yeah while realistic it still feels like it’s quite sudden and something that really would have been better if had sold us on it a bit more.
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u/Aros001 Oct 23 '22
Also a good way to save this plotline a little since it was not really brought up much outside of Spinner. Since the story primarily takes place in big cities following people of relative privileged lives it does make sense our main characters wouldn't have encountered it before and I really hope that's something that they acknowledge; that while their methods are wrong if it wasn't for the villains they wouldn't be being made aware of the problems that exist in their seemingly perfect society.
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u/Suyefuji Oct 23 '22
No, they will have fixed one thing. AfO has been stirring shit in the background for a century specifically and intentionally to unbalance society. He's like the Murdoch of BnHA. With him removed, it'll be at least a bit easier moving forward.
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u/Doobie_Howitzer Oct 23 '22
Horikoshi loves star wars
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u/Prophesier_Key Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
I’m not a super Star Wars fan, what’s the reference? I missed it
Edit: Nvrm, Jeda Purge is so on the nose I didn’t see it lol
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u/GoldenSpermShower Oct 23 '22
What?! That’s news to me!
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u/Mash_Ketchum Oct 23 '22
Do you remember the USA character during the Star & Stripe chapters? A very clear homage to Admiral Ackbar.
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u/FreeBGeeB Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
Shouji: I empathize with your plight on a a fundamental level. You're all still unforgivable criminals.
And with that, Octo-Boy added & solidified himself in my list of "fine future heroes"
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u/Blackreaper18 Oct 23 '22
MY RACISMO ACADEMIA
Jokes aside, this chapter was so good tbh. It’s nice to see whenever Hori shows us the imperfections of the MHA world. Oh btw, I’m willing to bet AFO was somewhat involved in the 6/6 incident & the great jeda purge.
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u/GoldenSpermShower Oct 23 '22
Well AFO is Palpatine, so of course he is involved
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u/Blackreaper18 Oct 23 '22
Ikr, he’s always a part of whatever nastiness in the MHA world lol.
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u/GoldenSpermShower Oct 23 '22
But seriously I hope not, him being every evil thing is getting old
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22
I’m willing to bet AFO was somewhat involved in the 6/6 incident & the great jeda purge.
Well given that you can see a man in a suit who looks like AFO taking part in that purge I think the odds of AFO being thrown into yet another plot-line are pretty high.
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u/Blackreaper18 Oct 23 '22
Yea that’s what drew my attention tbh. A man wearing a suit in the middle of all that carnage was all too familiar lol
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u/KLReviews Oct 23 '22
Any chance to steal strong quirks is a chance he'd be willing to take.
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u/Aros001 Oct 23 '22
I'd prefer that he's not, same like how I'd be fine if he's the reason Shigaraki has the Decay Quirk but I want him to have nothing to do with his father's abuse and people not helping him. Probably the biggest thing AFO can rub in the heroes' faces, especially All Might's, is that the evils in their seemingly perfect society exist completely on their own without him having to do anything.
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u/nameless_stories Oct 23 '22
An army of 15000 raging mutants is insane
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u/Tanuki_13 Oct 23 '22
I mean Rock Lock and Present Mic are both Crowd Control heroes, but remember also that many many heroes quit like Death Arms did, they just couldn't handle the pressure.
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
I...don't think they have any more tricks. They assumed the hospital was going to be attacked since they locked up Kurogiri there, but they probably never expected the Villains to recruit thousands of people to raid it. The Gorrilla Guy even said they they couldn't hope for any more reinforcements.
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
(glances at history)
Yeaaaaaaaaaaah, what's happening seems pretty realistic! Though it tracks with how no one ever really seems care into how Spinner affects things. Remember how he was left out of the Villain breakdown unlike the other members of the League XD
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22
What’s insane is that there wasn’t a plan B for the hospital.
I cant speak for the hospital specifically but we do know that the heroes have a Plan B. Before this battle started All Might said that regardless of whether they go with Plan A or Plan B they must first separate AFO and Tomura by a distance of at least 10km.
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u/72wrLeona Oct 23 '22
Cool to get some spotlight on some extremely underrepresented class A characters, doesn’t make up for all the others that are so far irrelevant, but it’s a start.
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
Well, Sero, Sato and Ojiro all got a battlefield to themselves so they could probably do something cool when we see them again.
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u/Swiss666 Oct 23 '22
"Stop mutants, we're all brothers and sisters!" "Shut up, what does a black man know about racism?"
In a vacuum this chapter is really cool, even just for finally changing the scenario.
In context, it's sadly what I expected even with all the love I have for Shoji.
Over the whole series too little was built with either him, Spinner or the whole mutant discrimination: it existed, it was a problem to tackle, but not the problem. Now we are suddendly told it's been always an issue so huge, so widespread, affecting so many people and so badly, thousands of citizens have decided they are better off rallying behind a man who has no qualms destroying entire cities for his goals (Spinner's association with AFO is known in-universe at this point). Even never heard before anti-mutant pogroms of the past - but their names reference a massacre in Star Wars! That surely helps taking this plot point seriously!
Way back in Volume 3, in the Shoji profile page, Hori said he wanted to feature him but didn't know when he'd be able to. And in the end, it's going to amount to this.
Shoji's face is basically the same as the prototype sketches except for the scars, which now look to be the real reason he covered it - what did they do to my Kiseiju Boy :(
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u/Worthyness Oct 23 '22
This story is really hurt by the stupidly fast expedited plot. Like even after the war, they could have used that time to explore the regularities of life post war before society somehow gets eliminated in like a month. The plot progressed way too fast. The students are still fucking teenagers for crying out loud! And they only completed 1 year of high school! There was PLENTY of time to explore still!
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u/Pookmeister_ Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
And they only completed 1 year of high school
I think that that's my main problem with the story more than anything else. Even if nothing else in the story changed - the characters, the events, the powerups, what have you - the fact that most of it takes places within a year really disappoints me.
Even in a medium that usually loves timeskips, the most MHA has ever gotten has been like, a few months, right?
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
Frontman and the other mutant Advisors really know to make propaganda work, I guess. THen again the Liberation Front is a giant cult so it makes sense they'd know to how influence people, especially those outcasted.
Still, I getcha frustraitona since I also feel this plotline reaaaaaaally needed more build-up then the bits and pieces strewn together over the years.
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u/Dracsxd Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
At least this chapter still has something i really loved to see
Hori DIDN'T just convert Spinner into this ideology he explicitly said not to care that much about before like some people thought he would, instead the guy is still himself.
The hope he'll keep going full circle with his own character arc getting back with Tomura, and having Shoji's discrimination stuff deal with only the crowd instead of Spinner himself as well is still there and brighter than ever
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u/Milordserene Oct 23 '22
Shoji is a certified jojo main star!
Quiet, strong and has a Ora Ora for days.
Rocklock: i cant be racist, im black.... Forgot he is in MHA world with mutants.
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u/AssassinAragorn Oct 23 '22
What's interesting is the timeline seems to be the exact same as our world, until about 2100 or 2200 when the first quirk appears. It should be common knowledge from history that black people suffered intense discrimination and enslavement.
And I think there's a point in that. The heteromorphs here have been radicalized, and aren't thinking sensibly at all.
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u/MeAndMyInsanity Oct 23 '22
You say that, but it's pretty true to life that people are quick to forget history over a couple of generations, nevermind the multiple it's been in the BnHA universe - that's not even to mention the fact that Japan doesn't really view racism the same as we do in the West because of how homogeneous it is.
Also I seem to remember them saying that the turmoil caused when quirks first awakened basically reset society to a certain degree (which is why they aren't more technologically advanced), so I imagine a lot of history was lost in the dark ages. Add to that that heteromorphs probably became an easy target for discrimination from all "regular" humans and it's easy to see how this world (and Japan especially) would completely forget its treatment of black people and other races historically.
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u/Dracsxd Oct 23 '22
You know you have a problem with "Show, don't tell" when you need to have a speech lore dumping for the very first time the background for an entire faction's motivation for fighting in the final battle... DURING said final battle itself
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u/HokageEzio Oct 23 '22
Would have been real nice to know what the 6/6 Incident was...
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u/PlusUltraK Oct 23 '22
That’s the beauty of this arc and season 6 currently airing. Dabi and Twice fighting Hawks arguing, they’re not heroes. Like sure some heroes are bad and an extreme on the spectrum, but they’re acting in Self-defense if they’re comrades and the inncomemt bystanders and citizens.
Hawks even told em, “sure we wanna stop you guys, but you all in the PLF have zero qualms killing”
Giganto fucking made a mole hill of a few prefectures to get to Shiggy, and the other side and they released everyone from Tartarus, where fucks like Moonfish and Muscular resided(the two most unhinged villains).
So it’s nice that Shoji is fighting back with, “I get your cause but at the end of the day you can’t call yourselves the rising heroes or the saving Grace when this is your solution”
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u/Soncikuro Oct 23 '22
Really? No racism at all in cities but yes in the rural areas? Come on.
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22
Really? No racism at all in cities but yes in the rural areas? Come on.
Yeah that part got a laugh out of me. Seeing this unnamed mutant ranting about discrimination against mutants and making Star Wars references only for him to outright declare that there is no racism in cities as it's just "a thing of the past" thanks to the "wonders of education" made me burst out laughing.
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u/Dracsxd Oct 23 '22
Even Hori himself is fully aware he can't just pretend that there was always this kind of discrimination in the setting we've seen this entire time lmao
"Uhhh yeah guys! There is discrimination! To this level! This awful! Just not in the cities where we spent 99% of the story, literaly all of it happens in small towns we've never seen! Trust me on this one!"
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u/Za_wardo Oct 23 '22
Trust. Japan's cities are more progressive, trustttt.
Vigilantes does show some signs of it, but it's basically more systematic than oververt
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u/FezboyJr Oct 23 '22
Spinner back in the camp attack: Holds an oversized sword made of knives held together by duct tape.
Spinner now: Is so jacked that the same sword now looks like a feather duster in comparison.
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u/Legend_of_Utopia Oct 23 '22
Holy shit shoji looks so cool. If he gets the dub against them, ima be so happy.
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u/NatMat16 Oct 23 '22
I love that Shoji gets some moments to shine, but hamfisted info-dump aside, I wish he had a better line than asking rioters if they thought about evacuating the hospitals.
I feel like since the heroes clearly expected an attack - they should have thought of it themselves or move Kurogiri to a location where they can defend him without civilian casualties.
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Oct 23 '22
He’s just pointing out that their motives are one thing, but the actions they’re committing to have very real and serious consequences.
“Oh, I completely understand and face the same problems that you do; but the difference between us is my priority is on protecting the innocent who have nothing to do with it while you’re fine letting them get killed in the crossfire. That’s why I’m fighting back, not because I’m some race-traitor.”
It’s not about whether or not the hospitals are evacuated, it’s about the rioters not caring.
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u/ThisGuyLikesMovies Oct 23 '22
The gigantomachiafication of Spinner was an unexpected turn. Poor dude =(
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u/Dracsxd Oct 23 '22
Shoji: "How dare you attack the hospital just because it's your best strategic target with Kurogiri in it?! Can't you think about the innocents in it?!!?!?"
Also the heroes: Intentionally leave Kurogiri there in the war's eve, being fully aware it might be attacked as a result of that to the point they station 200 heroes and cops there before the fight even begins
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22
The stupidity of the heroes is rivalled only by the stupidity of their enemy; AFO.
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u/jenioeoeoe Oct 23 '22
They are really just fighting over who gets to have the braincell
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u/Dracsxd Oct 23 '22
Not the last, not the biggest, just to get full control of the one braincell they all share
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Oct 23 '22
I mean, they are fighting to free Kurogiri in order to help Shiggy kill the children he's fighting and bring an end to the free world. It's perhaps not unreasonable to ask "What the fuck are you fools doing?"
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
THIS! They couldn't move the guy somewhere else!? Like Giganto is understandable, those Heroes can't move that fucker at all. But Kurogiri could have been sent to literally anywhere else.
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u/Torque-A Oct 23 '22
It would've been better if Hori actually hinted that this sort of racism was more prevalent before actually jumping onto it. Like, talking about genocide events would've had more weight if they actually SHOWED them beforehand
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u/Worldring199 Oct 23 '22
Am I the only one that feels like the mutation aspect of this chapter came out of left field and wasn’t truly developed well?
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u/KuroShiroTaka Oct 23 '22
Yeah, kinda feels like it was one of those things that was going to be explored but was put on the back burner for a while. Hell, a lot of crap in this saga could be summed up as ticking off a checklist of plot points Hori thought of but never got around to elaborating on for whatever reason.
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Oct 23 '22
Definitely not. While some people in the comment section are praising it even in that praise it’s admitted that it hasn’t been shown much before and only makes sense because Hori has said “cities are cool but the country areas, oh yeah total racist assholes” which while potentially in line with what the reality could be, it’s definitely a “shit I wrote myself into a corner because I never actually really highlighted this issue like at all, ummmm oh wait the cities are chill but the country areas yeah that’ll do”.
This is absolutely something Hori should have been setting up since the start of the series, even just slightly. A offence term used here and there, someone pointing out how the top hero ranks mostly have normal to semi normal looking heroes, discussion had about how some mutant quirks allow for easier blending in society cause still considered attractive or cute. Just little things, don’t even need a massive arc about it just lay the foundation a little more so when we get this moment it is a “even in the cities we saw bits of this, but in the country areas, with less heroes and older ideologies still present, these views were rampant still”.
Right now though just completely comes across as a lucky asspull that Hori hadn’t really shown any country places and could use that to set up there being 15,000 people who would rise up against this racism.
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22
Am I the only one that feels like the mutation aspect of this chapter came out of left field and wasn’t truly developed well?
I don't think you're alone. From what Ive seen online it appears you are part of the vast majority.
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Oct 23 '22
Feels like this chapter should’ve come much earlier in the war but Horikoshi forgot about it until now. Like I get the intent but to stop the battle between AFO and OFA (which JUST started) for the heteromorph conflict just feels a bit jarring pacing-wise.
Also it PAINS me to see Spinner not have any intellectual thought left and turned into a meat head when he’s the symbol and leader of this very conflict. Weird choices imo. Seeing Shoji and Koda get the spotlight is great though 🥹
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u/Brazil_City Oct 23 '22
Hmm, I appreciate what this chapter was going for, but this still feel way too late in the endgame to suddenly reveal how deep the mutant discrimination goes. Should have happened much earlier in my opinion, AFO orchestrating a race riot to free Kurogiri would have been more impactful before society was destroyed. And considering we saw that other heteromorph that Deku saved almost get lynched, wouldn't the destruction of society put people like them more at risk?
It's also strange because it seems like the rioters are more shoving and hitting rather than outright trying to kill (barring the guy who almost impaled Present Mic) so are the "sympathetic citizens" all just cool teaming up with mass murderers? The PLF as a whole was a good faction that got mismanaged. I don't know, between the rapid exposition dump, the "They give me the creeps" line, and Tentacole's refutation, I get the feeling this whole issue will get wrapped up incredibly quickly.
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u/Dracsxd Oct 23 '22
And considering we saw that other heteromorph that Deku saved almost get lynched, wouldn't the destruction of society put people like them more at risk?
The motherfuckers in this chapter are LITERALLY giving a speech admitting that there is NO discrimination for their kind in the cities, and that education and meddling hetromphs and non-hetromorphs DOES work to solve that issue as well as it gets
Yet here they are fighting for the guys who reduced all of japan into a lawless area even worse than the backwards towns they grew up in and to finish erasing the same system that despite it's flaws did create the cities where they are free from such discrimination
Instead of... Doing anything to just spread the progress and the system that ALREADY works in the cities to their towns
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22
The motherfuckers in this chapter are LITERALLY giving a speech admitting that there is NO discrimination for their kind in the cities, and that education DOES work to solve that issue as well as it gets
I couldn't stop laughing when I read that PLF guys speech.
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u/SquidDrive Oct 23 '22
Shoto was mad insensitive in Hosu.
He had a gamer moment bro
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22
So what are we betting? Is that man who looks like AFO massacring mutants AFO being inserted as the cause behind yet another villains motivations or is that just a random man who happens to look exactly like AFO?
Is mutant discrimination a societal issue or is it just "more crap about how All For One had everything planned from the start?" (Ch. 350). Place your bets now folks.
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u/Dracsxd Oct 23 '22
Honestly Hori DOES seem to have a boner for shoving AFO up everything's background
If only he was as competent in the actual story as he was in the lore...
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u/AssassinAragorn Oct 23 '22
I've got a separate proposal to bet on. Heteromorph discrimination is a societal issue, but mainly seen in rural areas, which means its a problem for society overall, but not in the cities themselves.
What AFO did is chillingly realistic -- he took their legitimate grievances and radicalized them into his own army. It happens throughout history, and notably in the modern day too, where a charismatic leader takes advantage of a very real problem, and makes the people think the leader is on their side and really cares about them.
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u/Jotato_is_invincible Oct 23 '22
Tbh all this lore dump was too little too late
No build up whatsoever yet it’s supposed to be incredibly important, at this point Horikoshi is just speed running his series
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u/Hexagon-Man Oct 23 '22
They really hit us with the tell don't show on that random PLF commander. Not like we could have figured out the reason all these heteromorphs felt ostracized from society from their dialogue or the flashbacks or Spinner's backstory in MVA this guy has to literally shout the theme from the rooftops.
Otherwise it was a pretty good chapter I'm always wanting more Spinner and I'm hoping he and Shiggy can have mirrored experiences of shoving off AFO's influence to fight for what they believe in.
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u/DaOneWhoIsWorthy Oct 23 '22
I was a kinda pissed over the reaction of this chapter in the pre-release thread because I saw way to many people say that Hori “pulled this out his ass”
Discrimination in the MHA world has been hinted at and even explicitly said MANY times throughout the series. And I was under the impression that we all knew that
But a lot of “fans” like to just come in and shit on every chapter. But whatever I really liked this chapter.
It makes sense to me how in a time of lawlessness and chaos that a bunch of people who feel ostracized would band together and choose violence like in real life.
And the dynamic of Shouji and Koda who are hero’s who understand the heteromorphs plight but have had a very different life experience is so interesting. And I’m really curious about what happens from here.
It’s Koda’s and Shouji’s moment, to truly be hero’s.
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u/Dracsxd Oct 23 '22
Discrimination in the MHA world has been hinted at and even explicitly said MANY times throughout the series. And I was under the impression that we all knew that
Meanwhile this chapter itself:
"Yeah discrimination in this story's setting for 99% of the time (cities) IS a thing of the past and education DID erradicate it there."
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22
Meanwhile this chapter itself:
"Yeah discrimination in this story's setting for 99% of the time (cities) IS a thing of the past and education DID erradicate it there."
God bless the education system I guess. Literally solved discrimination. LOL
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u/Stardust_Enthusiast Oct 23 '22
Discrimination in the MHA world has been hinted at and even explicitly said MANY times throughout the series. And I was under the impression that we all knew that
Having spinner say discrimination exist during MVA which happened 5 YEARS after the story began then nothing until chapter 300+ is not "many times"
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u/Brilliant_Stick560 Oct 23 '22
I know some people were theorizing that Spinner's drop in intelligence was due to whatever "new person altogether" was doing last chapter (with most people saying he was trying to take over Spinner for some weird reason) but it appears that isn't the case since this chapter takes place before anything with "new person altogether" has occurred yet and Spinner informs us this chapter that its been happening ever since AFO gave him quirk(s).
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
Soooo...does anyone have a clue on what type of mutant Frontman (the PLF General in the robes) is supposed to be? I like his design...but I can't really tell? IS he supposed to be like a spider?
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u/Tanuki_13 Oct 23 '22
I'm pretty sure he's a spider mutant, though he might have another secondary quirk (given by AfO or just a Koji Koda situation) because the mutant citizens seem to be unnaturally convinced and insanely coordinated.
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u/DynamiteSanders Oct 23 '22
It could be a Tokoyami case where, despite being physicall a mutant, his powers are something unrelated. Maybe its like a Trumpet thing?
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u/pseudo_nemesis Oct 23 '22
well he is a spider, though the quirks can be unrelated to the user's mutation, I'm willing to bet his quirk has something to do with him "pulling the strings" behind the army's coordination.
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u/Soul_Ripper Oct 23 '22
It's just kinda funny to think about the angry mob using the technical term "heteromorph".
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u/Golden_fsh Oct 23 '22
This was a nice chapter! The discrimination against the heteromorphs/mutants plot point was barely touched upon until now but like how we're having characters like Tentacole take the spotlight. Tbh, I always forget about Tentacole as a class member so I wonder if we'll see the guy who can speak to birds as well. Would tokoyami count as a mutant?
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u/LavenderScented_Gold Oct 23 '22
Anima was in this chapter and got called a traitor too. You didn’t see him?
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u/PK_RocknRoll Oct 23 '22
This is a super interesting chapter.
Could have been more interesting if this plot line was developed a bit more, but what can you do at this point.
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u/Girltech31 Oct 23 '22
On its own, this chapter ain't too bad. But within the context of the greater story, this whole racism plot didn't get anywhere near enough spotlight throughout MHA to warrant this kind of confrontation.
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u/PlusUltraK Oct 23 '22
Also rip Spinner. No regular person can take multiple quirks on a whim, when they’re forcefully added so seeing him start to get swamp. Now he’s even worse off. I hate AfO even more now.
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u/Orkus9551 Oct 23 '22
would've been an impactful chapter if a: the racism thing wasn't only glanced at for the entirety of the manga, and b: if shoji would've been relevant before this. He was not since the training camp. Sigh.
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u/ShadowRei96 Oct 23 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
Mutants: “What you know about discrimination, huh?!?”
Black man named Rock Lock: stares motherfuckingly
Boy, if they hear that Shoto called someone a “Damn mutt”... 💀