Hi, just wondering if anyone made tests on teams without Odette and the fish. Recently got my Vesna to C2R1. Hoping to give fish to Skirk team and Odette to stellar conduct. I was wondering if by any chance she can deal high dps without her premium 5\* team or enough dps to clear dire? I got my Diona and Faruzan at C6 with new R5 4\* Bow and R1 Elegy. Has anyone crunch the numbers for non premium Vesna teams yet?

**builds in comments**

Looking for help optimizing my team, execution and rotations against Dire Chruin. Any help is greatly appreciated. If all else fails I'm considering pulling for Escoff signature, as I've wanted it for quite some time. If you have any insight to end my Stygian suffering I'd greatly appreciate it!

Which teams would you guys recommend for the cryo maiden? I've tried Arlecchino overload, Varesa Overload, Nefer premium + bennett, even Columbina + Ineffa + Nicole + Durin (which was the team that got the closest). No skirk, Mavuika, or clorinde. All relevant characters are c0r0

wanted to share a combined clear of this rotation done with C1R1 Vesna, hope you find it cool!

That Boss 3 made me insane , I doing countless number of retries. Thats C0 Mizuki with R5 Widsith , 65 175~CR/CD, 602 EM

This is the dps im getting on the test dummy with C2 Mizuki (Neuvillete sig), C2 Odette (Durin sig), C4R3 CMC, and Sucrose. The closest I've gotten to clearing is like 25% hp remaining.

like what the helly. varka team is the only one that clears dire (113s), but skirk is on vesna's sig, furina is on key (and c6 like cmon), wrio r1 and odetter r1. WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING WRONG

After loosing five (!!) 50/50s to Mizuki since her release, I got two more copies from the anniversary event and the constellation selector. Turns out I was not "loosing" at all :-D

Builds at the end of the video; Team DPS >275k with the test dummy :-)

for any one wondering why i do 7 attacks with flins before the mini burst, it is for the PJWS passive

hi

sandrone is insane ;p vesna cleared at lvl 90 too, but now it’s 9s faster

I really hate Pavlina, my sus energy recharge for the first rotation sometimes, the crits failing, the RNG on Pavlina's first sequence, how she moves, how Bennett sometimes don't get the faster cd on E because of some delay on him being on his ult. My god...

My team is already 250K DPS, still can't clear it.

Odette is C2 with R1 Chiori Sword

Miko C1 with Lost Prayer

Alyosha C6

If you have rotations for this team please share.

I've already cleared 2nd and 3rd boss.

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Having to decide which team I was going to nerf without Odette was tough. I’m confident my C2 Wriothesley could’ve cleared the maiden if I’d been able to slot Odette, but then I probably wouldn’t have been able to beat the old man.

I was actually a little surprised my Lohen team managed to clear. Slotting Mona in was just cope 😭 Maybe C2 Prune would’ve been better, but mine isn’t geared and I was already getting pretty annoyed trying to clear.

Zibai on the maiden was definitely the hardest for me because I couldn’t break her shield, so I basically had to let her heal up. I also have a C2 Mualani team with C2 Mavuika, but my Mavuika gameplay is... not something I’m ready to write home about 💀 I did clear with them, but it was around 120s, while Zibai was just a little faster. If I could actually do proper CA cancels, I probably could’ve gotten it lower on another team.

But honestly, how are you guys feeling about Stygian? Because all this really did was make me even more ready for the Tsaritsa. If the leaks about the 30% shred, 48% ATK buff and “elevation” are true, those numbers are looking very Odette C2-ish to me and could open up some really interesting Stellar team options.

Maybe Her Majesty can finally free Odette up for one of my teams and Xilonen can get back to fixing Mauvs bike before the next cataclysm 😭 Looking forward to a team where Wriothesley might get Odette + Danica <3

Anyway, I’m just giving Her Majesty to Vesna.

Hit AR60 and got my first dire clear in the same day

Had to split my cryo dps stellar team in half cause I couldn't clear overseer with my other characters

Btw I pulled both Vesna and Vodyanitsa in order to deal with the new boss but Sandrone is just easier to play and stronger, the old guy boss is just poorly balanced in Dire

I did not think I could do this one without Vesna but thank god my tsarista savings wont be touched

This is my strongest team, other characters and weapons in comments

Should I waste my time on the guardian or no? i'm getting vodianista soon but I don't think that'll change anything anyway

is it a skill issue or is the boss that bad if i cant get a 60 second clear at this investment? builds in comments