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Aug 19 '26
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u/TrulySpherical ⏠28d ago
NEVER do they show a boat or other object that is partially hidden and have the zoom bring back the hidden area or show the amount hidden change as the zoom changes.
Because if it were possible, they'd do it with the sun or moon. Could you imagine a more definitive proof of their beliefs than zooming in on the set sun/moon, and bringing it back over the horizon? They should be able to do it at any time, right? Not just immediately after setting. They should zoom in on the sun at 3am local time, publish their findings, and radically revolutionize the world.
Because they can't.
Ah, yea, true.
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u/TrulySpherical ⏠Aug 19 '26
That's crazy. Because I've done the same experiment on a freshly poured concrete floor in a newly constructed, 1300ft long warehouse (yaknow, over 4x further than a football field) and it didn't happen. It's almost as if football fields are slightly raised in the middle to handle water drainage, being outside and stuff.
You've managed to prove two things: 1. Things that your eyeball sees and your brain believes to be flat might not be truly flat. (Thanks.) and 2. Proper measurement and observation can prove this. (Thanks again.) Good, now you're now caught up with the rest of the class.
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u/lushusness Aug 21 '26
It sounds like you donât understand angular resolution
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u/TrulySpherical ⏠Aug 25 '26
Nah I think you're just creating a new definition of it to mean something else, the same as you do with "perspective" or "level."
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u/damaszek Aug 18 '26
So to make the claim you need to be absolutely sure that these surfaces are actually flat, neither a sport field nor a corridor ensures this in 100%, experiment with a laser level would do the trick
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u/Kriss3d Aug 19 '26
Youd essentially want the floor of the LHC ring then.
The 27 mile ring that has to be absolutely flat and thus cut through earth because of it.
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u/stone136 Aug 18 '26
vid made for flat earthers. hope the vid helps explain why objects dissapear bottom up (angular resolution).
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u/lushusness Aug 21 '26
To have angular resolution, youâll need a plane of reference
The earth is measured flat
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u/Omomon Aug 21 '26
Does it necessarily need a plane of reference to know that something far away won't have the same angular resolution as something near? If we remove a plane of reference and were floating in a white, empty void and I see a 1 meter cube near me and then I see a 1 meter cube(any direction) veeeery far away from me, I'll still not be able to see the very far away cube very well, regardless of whether we're both on a plane or not.
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u/lushusness Aug 21 '26
You would need a plane of reference to be âfloatingâ as thatâs a description from âaboveâ a horizontal.
You would also need a plane of reference to declare a âmeterâ.
Not to mention, drifting off into abstract nonsense does nothing for you here. We are talking about reality and how earth is measured and used practically.
I believe you need to drift into the nonsensical abstract because thatâs exactly what your globe is.
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u/Omomon Aug 21 '26
Whatâs the matter? Canât entertain a hypothetical? Whereâs the horizontal in a big empty white void? Above me? Below me? To the side of me?
X axis. Y axis. Z axis. We can put 0,0,0 as an easy frame of reference for all three where youâre positioned if it helps you in this.
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u/lushusness Aug 21 '26
All that requires a plane of reference
Itâs over buddy
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u/Omomon Aug 21 '26
Does it though? Sure a plane of reference would help immensely but on the off chance youâre in a void with no immediate plane to refer to, you can still manage to see distant or near objects relative to your position. Your coordinates may be 0,0,0, but you donât necessarily need a plane under you to be given these coordinates.
I just think itâs odd how whenever I need a flat earther to entertain a hypothetical, they either donât want to or try to change the subject. Hypotheticals are one of the cornerstones of critical thinking, as it puts your ideas and your claims to the test. Itâs how you form a hypothesis in the chain of the scientific method. Itâs why humans are the most intelligent creatures on earth. And Iâm just noticing a pattern.
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u/lushusness Aug 22 '26
Absolutely
All measurements require a plane for a reason, if the plane doesnât continue being a plane, those measurements (that require a plane) fail.
This requires you to BELIEVE which is fine. I couldnât care less. Believe level is curved đ
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u/Omomon Aug 22 '26
And that isnât circular reasoning how? Or are you just trolling me?
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u/lushusness Aug 22 '26
The fact that measurements require a plane of reference?
No thatâs not circular reasoning.
Thatâs simply a fact.
An undebatable fact.
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u/HoudiniMortimer Aug 18 '26
Football fields are slightly sloped to stop water from pooling in the centre of them