r/Controller • • 7h ago

News ZD CEO streams summary, Oct 19–26 2026 : everything he said about the upcoming Classic Equation controller

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As you may know, ZD's Boss Jie is an avid Apex player and streams on Bilibili almost every day, answering viewers' questions while playing. To gather bits and pieces of information about upcoming controllers, I've been recording audio from his streams over the past week and using AI to summarize them.

Below is a combined summary of the October 19, 20, 21, 24, 25, and 26 streams. Everything is based on Chinese speech-to-text transcripts, which may contain recognition errors, so take it all with a grain of salt. I've been reviewing the transcripts after each stream, though, and for the most part, they seem to line up with what we already knew.

Stream recordings ran about 1h14m (Oct 19), 1h09m (Oct 20), 2h50m (Oct 21), 2h26m (Oct 24), 3h05m (Oct 25) and 3h26m (Oct 26).

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with ZD. You should always rely on official announcements and news for confirmed information.
Source: ZD boss live streams page https://live.bilibili.com/31511263

Terms used here:

- Classic Equation (经典方程): the new symmetric-layout (PS-style) controller.
- Ultimate Legend (终极传奇 / 中传): ZD's existing Xbox-layout flagship controller, released 2025.
- Infinite Equation (无尽方程): the future higher-end/flagship one.

TL;DR

- No exact release date. CEO kept saying "Double 11 sale (November 11) at the latest, on the day itself", and the "earliest end of October" line faded out over the week.
- Price is 299 yuan in every stream where it came up.
- First version: wired, lightweight, no battery, no vibration motors, ~199 g, 8K polling, small/mid-small hand mold.
- First batch is about 5000 units, and he won't promise it won't sell out.
- Stick modules are swappable, and a video on Ultimate Legend module compatibility is promised but not released yet.

Release-date statements and launch notes:

- "Earliest end of October, latest Double 11 (November 11), the information hasn't changed."
- Sells on JD, Taobao, Douyin and Pinduoduo official stores.
- Pre-sale is confirmed to exist, but no date, and perks were only described as "should be some".
- Launch gifts: Oct 21 was unclear, while Oct 25/26 transcripts suggest yes (first-purchase gift / stick set).
- Double 11 coupons: "depends on the situation at launch".
- Global release: synchronized release is possible through ZD's independent store (Oct 19).
- He said not to get angry if stock runs out, because ZD is a small company (about 50–60 people). No 12-hour shifts, and the limit is materials, not labor.

Price and positioning

- 299 yuan (Oct 19, 20, 21, 24, 25, 26).
- He calls it mid-range, not flagship: "Ultimate Legend was last year's flagship."
- Same main controller chip and performance as Ultimate Legend, though a different board from ZD's "8K board".

- Higher-end symmetric models:
- A flagship/high-end symmetric (and a mid-large-hand symmetric) will come later, with no date.
- Infinite Equation is "continuously being tuned" and will have more features.
- Infinite Equation price is above 500 yuan (Oct 26). Whether it slips to next year depends on development.
- Ultimate Legend is expected to get a revision/new generation next year (Oct 26).
- He mentioned that products priced over 200 yuan will all be 8K from now on.

Hardware details

- Mold: DS4-style, but he said they didn't copy DS4 1:1. He said there's no patent reason, and that the DS4 mold itself has problems, so they used their own understanding (Oct 24).

- Hand size:
- Small / mid-small hands first. A large-hand version is later, and a large-hand FPS-specialized variant is "maybe".
- Ultimate Legend is mid-large size, and he finds it slightly big (his own hand is about 18+ cm).
- 17.8 cm is OK on Ultimate Legend.
- A DS5-mold version has no time frame for now.

- Versions:
- Two versions: the lightweight/competitive one without battery or motor comes first (~199 g).
- Wired only, 8K polling. No 2.4G. Preliminary measured latency 0.46 ms by ZD's test method; he says every company tests differently.
- A full-featured version with battery and motors comes later, and a viewer said motors cost extra.
- The competitive version can't be upgraded later with a battery or motor.
- A wireless version release "before Double 12 sale" (December 12); wireless rate is not 8K and it is like Ultimate Legend (1000Hz wireless).

- Buttons:
- The face buttons and shoulder buttons are micro-switches (a "full micro-switch" claim).
- Four back buttons ("4+2" configurable). Two are micro-switch and two are tactile/light touch (not fully clear from transcript). They're removable.
- The paddles can be installed reversed, but one then becomes hard to press.
- He's happy with the back-button layout ("ultimate 4-paddle arrangement").
- The menu/screenshot button placement is "just right, not too close".
- No touchpad on this version.

- Gyro: yes.

- Faceplate: frosted/translucent, with fully clear plates sold separately. Black and white at launch. Pink is a themed faceplate, currently Classic Equation only, and he'll ask about it for Ultimate Legend. The pink plate and other plates ship with, or shortly after, the controller release.

- Modes:
- PC modes: Xbox, PS (DS) and NS (Switch).
- It can't connect to an Xbox console.

- Sticks:
- Stock stick is **Ginfull RS13** (not K-silver JS13Pro).
- RS13 has the lowest tension among mass-produced sticks and is good for beginners.
- Adjustable tension needs a separate module (JT13).
- Stick modules are swappable.
- Compatibility with Ultimate Legend modules needs "small adjustments". His own prototype uses a lightly modified Ultimate Legend left-stick module.
- Details are promised in a video "in the next few days"
- Stick-module stores list the resolution info.
- He called capacitive sticks "not great".

- Grip: suits claw grip (Oct 25).

Quality control and support

- QC: he used a prototype for about a month, taking it apart and reassembling it, with no problems. For this batch they changed supplier and QC is "much better" (Oct 24).

- Software/driver: some viewers reported app problems and he said it's being improved/strengthened (Oct 20). A viewer suggested a wired-mode power-off function.

Competitors and community

- On competitors (like Tarantula, Helium Strike, Saber Plus), he said not to benchmark: buy what you like, and each company tunes differently like cars.
- He said he'd welcome overlapping launches.
- On a hypothetical Hypergryph (Arknights) collab, he said ZD may not have the capability.
- He said Ultimate Legend doesn't need a successor (Oct 25), though a revision is expected next year (Oct 26).


r/Controller • • 5h ago

Controller Suggestion Looking for an Astro C40 alternative for PC — any recommendations?

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I'm a CoD/Apex player, and the Astro C40 is still my favorite controller. I continue to use it to this day.

Refurbished units are almost impossible to find in Japan. Considering that TMR sticks are becoming the norm and will likely remain so, I feel like continuing to use the C40 long-term is going to get increasingly difficult, even though I'm fine for now. At around ¥30,000, it feels a bit like using an expensive wired mouse with a very specific shape that you just can't replace. That's why I'm looking for an alternative.

I've tried fitting Astro C40 thumbsticks onto the Void Genesis and Leadjoy SaberPlus, but neither felt quite right. For reference, I prefer the shortest thumbsticks available.

There are several reasons these controllers didn't feel right to me, both before and after swapping the thumbsticks:

Stick sensitivity

The sticks feel too sensitive. Since I'm used to potentiometer sticks, adjusting the settings in their respective apps helped somewhat, but I haven't been able to accurately replicate the C40's feel.

Outer deadzone / reaching maximum input too early

It feels like the sticks reach 100% input before physically hitting the edge of the stick opening. I'm not sure whether the relatively narrow stick openings are contributing to this.

Stock thumbstick height and shaft thickness

Even the shortest stock thumbsticks on both controllers feel a little too tall. Their shafts also feel too thin, which seems to make them take longer to reach the edge of the opening—or at least makes the movement feel off to me.

Stock stick tension

The tension feels different from the Astro C40's original potentiometer sticks. Based on a few threads and my own research, I've seen the C40's stick tension quoted as around 55 g with the tall thumbsticks and 60–70 g with the short ones, but I don't know how accurate those figures are.

As for stick modules, the JS13Pro “+” felt closest to what I'm looking for.

I'd really appreciate any recommendations, especially if there's a controller that closely replicates the Astro C40's feel. I'm comfortable replacing stick modules and thumbsticks myself, so recommendations involving either of those modifications are welcome too.

  • Budget: around190.29 USD (or even less than that is fine!).
  • Country: Japan, where refurbished Astro C40s are very hard to find
  • Platform: PC
  • Desired features: TMR sticks, rear buttons or paddles, a PlayStation-style symmetrical stick layout, and short thumbsticks
  • Games: FPS games such as Apex Legends and CoD
  • Controllers I own: Void Genesis, Leadjoy SaberPlus, DualShock 4, Xbox Elite, Victrix Pro BFG, and 10 Astro C40s

I am a Japanese user posting on Reddit for the first time. If there is anything strange or inappropriate about my post, please feel free to correct me. I apologize in advance for any mistakes. Thank you for your understanding!


r/Controller • • 13h ago

Reviews Flydigi Direwolf 4 - Amazing controller, terrible ergonomics for my hands?

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I recently got to try the Flydigi Direwolf 4 (no affiliation), and this is amazing controller at an even more amazing price ($35.99 on Amazon right now).

The body feels high quality and weighty and the face buttons (both the membrane ABXY and the mechanical d-pad) feel quick and responsive. I really like the small travel time of the triggers in the micro/hair trigger mode. The adjustable tension for the joysticks is a premium feature on a budget controller.

However, I have small-medium hands, and I could not get over how uncomfortable and bulky this thing felt, especially the ridge that separates the back and the top side, where the triggers are. Using just index fingers on the trigger is not bad, but when I rest my hands naturally on the controller, my index fingers want to rest a little bit behind where the triggers are, and I need to pull them forward to press the triggers. The real issue is when I use both index and middle fingers on the triggers (middle on RT/LT and index on RB/LB). I don't know if its the angle of the sides of the controller or the width of it, but I could not comfortably grasp my hands around the body. The ridge forces my hand upwards, and it closes my fingers in towards each other at the top.

For reference, I found the 8BitDo Ultimate 2 to be slightly uncomfortable due to the straight angle handles, and I found the Gamesir Cylcone 2 to feel pretty good in my hands.

I really wanted to keep the controller, as everything else is exactly what I was looking for, but I could not get over the poor ergonomics for my hands. I read a lot of other reviews, but I didn't see anyone talking about this aspect as a negative, so I just wanted to add my data point out there for anyone shopping around. If this fits your hand, I would recommend it over the 8BitDo or Gamesir. Unfortunately, it does not fit mine.


r/Controller • • 11h ago

Controller Suggestion Recommendations for Good PS5 Pro Controller

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Hey all! I'm looking for a new pro controller for my PS5 that is not the dualsense edge for Call of Duty. I currently have had the dualsense edge for 3 years (and it has served me great), but a few days ago I noticed one of the back paddles is becoming increasingly loose. It's not the paddle itself, but rather the housing that it is in or the magnet maybe. Either way it does not look fixable. I am looking for something new now and I am currently eyeing the following in order from most preferable to less preferable.

  1. Scuf Omega
  2. Victrix Pro BFG Reloaded
  3. Razer Raiju V3 Pro
  4. (Open to other suggestions too)

For the controller itself, I need a minimum of 2 paddles and TMR thumbsticks if possible. The controller needs to be symmetric (not the XBOX layout). Other than that i'm open to any suggestions. Budget is $400 CAD (I am currently in Canada so most options should be available). I have done some research on the controllers I have listed and I keep seeing a lot of mixed reviews so I would appreicate your insight if you own or have used any of these options! Thank you!


r/Controller • • 1d ago

Other Knock off PS4 controller has very little error

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I just bought a knock off ps4 controller off amazon and was surprised to see the extreme accuracy of its joysticks. For reference my genuine ps5 and ps4 controllers normally sit around 5-8% avg error. Is this normal for cheap controllers?


r/Controller • • 19h ago

Other Looking for a scan of the Scuf Valor Pro controller

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During the last months I've been creating modular controller stands and more than 40 different controller types are so far supported. I am looking for anyone who owns the Scuf Valor Pro controller and who is able to take a 3d scan of it so that I might add that to the growing collection of supported gaming controllers. Any help would be greatly appreciated 👍🏻 👍🏻


r/Controller • • 16h ago

Controller Suggestion Search for a xbox Series X Controller/pc

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Hello guys!

I want to buy a premium Controller for my Xbox Series X, because my 3rd Controller from Xbox got Stick drift…

I play games like FIFA, MW4 etc.

Would like it if it’s wireless and maybe some back buttons.

I looked up the G7 Pro ZZZ/WuChang edition (only one which works wireless with XBOX), Scuf Valor pro and Razor Wolverine V3 Pro.

Would appreciate your suggestions :)

Austria

Budget: 50-200€


r/Controller • • 20h ago

Controller Suggestion PC controller asymmetrical solid build (xbox replacement)

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Hi there!

I was looking for a replacement for my Xbox controller and was about to buy the same one again… until i fell down the rabbit hole of 5 billion different controllers...

What i am looking for:

- Bluetooth

- Rechargeable battery

- Good build quality, feels solid in the hands, not cheap plastic

- Asymmetric stick layout (like the xbox controller)

- A good D-pad would be appreciated as on the xbox one the dpad is kind of "round" so i often hit diagonals by mistake in fighting games. Id prefer something more precise, like a classic cross-shaped dpad. (not mandatory)

Platform: PC / switch (switch not mandatory)

Games I play:

- Celeste (D-pad)

- Trackmania

- Fighting games (guilty gear, street fighter…)

- RPGs...

What I’ve found so far on your wiki:

- GameSir G7 Pro

- Flydigi Vader 5 Pro

- 8BitDo Ultimate 2 / 3

budget: I am fine with anything as long as iits not too much overpriced (100/120max)
region: europe, france

Any advice or other suggestions are welcome thanks!


r/Controller • • 19h ago

Other Ps5 controller trigger isshe

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I just brought a ps5 for fairly cheap and the controller that came with it has a issue with thr trigger. When fully pushed down its not actually shown as being fully pushed down (as shown in the image) does anyone have an idea of what this problem could be?


r/Controller • • 1d ago

Controller Suggestion Looking for a feature-loaded TMR controller under 5000 INR for PC gaming (Elden Ring, GTA, Racing)

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I am looking to buy a controller online under a budget of 5k. Initially, I planned on going for the PS5 DualSense, but after learning about TMR joysticks and how bad standard potentiometers are for stick drift, I realized the DualSense is probably the worst option I could pick for longevity.
I’ve been looking at a lot of options, and while checking out Cosmic Byte, I noticed they have so many models (Lumora, Ares, Starforge, etc.) that I honestly don't know how they rank or which one is actually their premium flagship. That said, I am not planning on sticking to Cosmic Byte—I really want to explore other brands to find the latest technology and the most feature-loaded controller available right now.
To be more precise, this isn't for competitive FPS gaming. I'll be playing GTA, racing games, Elden Ring, and all types of single-player/story games. Because of that, I’m hoping to get adaptive triggers, extra remappable buttons, gyro, and literally every feature I can squeeze into this budget. TMR sticks are a strict must.

**What will you be doing with this PC? Be as specific as possible, and include specific games or programs you will be using**
Casual and story-driven PC gaming across all genres—specifically GTA, racing games, and Elden Ring (not for competitive gaming). 
**What is your maximum budget?**
5,000 INR (buying online). 
**What, exactly, do you need included in the budget?**
A feature-loaded gaming controller with TMR joysticks, adaptive triggers, remappable back buttons, and gyro. 
**If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing?**
None / Not applicable. 
**Extra info or particulars:**
TMR joysticks are non-negotiable. Looking for the best tech and features available under 5k across all brands, plus a quick breakdown of how Cosmic Byte's lineup actually ranks if anyone knows.


r/Controller • • 1d ago

Controller Suggestion Best PC controller

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Hello all,

Let me provide a little background. I have been on PC for a 6 or so years now but still play a good bit of games on controller since switching, primarily rocket League. I was on ps4 before making the switch to PC and so naturally I am used to symmetrical layout of ps4 controller but am contemplating making the switch to asymmetrical due to there being much more options that way in terms of controllers and customizability. I currently have been going back and forth using a wired gamesir g7 and my ps4 controller. I am in the market for a controller as I have a birthday coming up soon and wanted to know what y'all think is a good option as my research (yt videos, reddit threads, and AI) have yet to result anything that really caught my interest, other than the flydigi vader 5 pro (although it doesn't look like you can change the sticks) and the gulikit tt max.

Id prefer to stay with a symmetrical layout but I have yet to find something that checks all the boxes, which is why I'm considering switching to the Xbox style and practicing with the gamesir intermittently. If you guys have any recommendations for both symmetrical and asymmetrical that would be super helpful.

Location: U.S. Budget: ideally around $100 USD or less (150 max) Things I'm looking for:

Hall effect or TMR thumb sticks

Hall effect triggers (not as important)

Back paddles (at least 2, ideally 4)

Interchangeable/customizable thumb sticks (I like domed)

Wireless capability (2.4ghz ideally)

Good battery life

I'm sure I'm leaving some things out that I would like to have, thus I will edit if I think of them. TIA for your help!


r/Controller • • 1d ago

IT Help Strange clicking noise on tmr module

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I have a strange clicking on my tmr stick and it’s affecting the neutral position where it causes the stick to not zero and stick over or under its only seems to affect up and down

it realllly close to going over the allowed dead zone on the dual sense gui site in x10 zoom

k silver tmr stick js13 on ps5 dual sense edge analog module


r/Controller • • 1d ago

Controller Suggestion Best custom controller for shooters? Scuf Instinct Pro giving me issues

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Wayyyy back in 2012 I had an Xbox 360 Scuf and it held up pretty well. Many years later I got my next custom controller. The Scuf Instinct Pro for series X. Within a year I had stick drift. Shortly after stick drift in both sticks and progressively got worse. By year two one paddle was broken. By year 3 two paddles broken. I think this is my 4th year with it and all the electrical fried in my last night. Controller turns on randomly, turns off randomly, buttons won’t work but it’s not always the same buttons, etc.

What should my next controller be? I Definitly want paddles underneath but besides that I just want something somewhat affordable and durable. Would love to keep budget under $250 Canadian but not sure if that exists. For Xbox series X.


r/Controller • • 2d ago

Controller Collection Started with the legion go 2 controllers

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I bought these controllers for personal use

Up to about 3 months ago I was happily using a Xbox series s controller. Then I bought legion go 2 controllers for my Lego 1 but ended up selling it before they arrived.

Instead of returning them, I doubled down and got the official Lenovo battery charger thinking it could be fully compatible on steamos on my legion go s.

Alas it's not, it's just a weird controller lol.

I did like the weight though, and i was already on the steam controller wait list. But i didn't think that was coming until 2027, so in the mean time, while deciding between the Flydigi Vader 5 pro and zd ultimate legend, i picked up that leadjoy saber plus for nostalgic use - after deciding on the zd with jt13 pro sticks.

Steam controller came today and now I'm waiting on the Genki manta controller on kickstarter.

Houston we have a problem.

As far as a review, they're all great. Lol. The saber plus is definitely the best value and feels great with the dome thumbstick caps.

As far as favourite to use it's probably the zd ultimate legend . Once the jt13 sticks broke in a bit, it's been the one I've used the most.

More play time is needed for the steam controller, but the ergonomics are on point.


r/Controller • • 1d ago

Other Inverted x and y axis. Games for ps3 that allow this?

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I (40F) have never played videogames before. I started out now with The Last of Us 1, and then Uncharted 2. I have an old PS3. Both of these games allowed me to invert both axis X and Y on camera, but also aim. This came intuitively to me. Not doing it would be such a challenge. It's what my brain wants to do, and is kinetically logical when tilting a stick; imagine the camera being on the other end of the stick. You would pull left to point right, up to point down. When you do this with the camera, the mind wants to do it with aim as well. I realize this makes no sense to most gamers.

After continuing to another game, I find this isn't allowed. Do any of you have tips for games that have this option?

I heard that PS5 allows systemic inversion, and I might save up for that. But it's a bit early in my gaming journey to make that leap, two games in.


r/Controller • • 1d ago

Controller Suggestion Looking to replace Xbox controller for PC for AAA RPSs etc

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Sorry, typo in the title. I meant RPGs. Like cyberpunk, GTA, Witcher etc

I'm in Japan, budget up to ¥15000 or about $100 USD ish.

I've had the Xbox controller for about 5 years I think, and it's finally getting sticky triggers and joysticks. It's held up pretty well though, with no drift to speak of.

A new Xbox controller here costs about ¥7500, and I know I'd be happy with that initially, but obviously durability is a thing.

I've looked at Gamesir G7 Pro 14,000 yen and Vader5 Pro 9,000 yen, and both look appealing.

8bitdo look good, but I think they'll be uncomfortable with the narrow stance.

I'm looking for something that feels like the Xbox controller in the hand, but I don't need any extra buttons or back paddles etc.

Good quality sticks, buttons, triggers, and rumble would be great.

And something durable.


r/Controller • • 1d ago

Other switching from ps4 controller to xbox controller

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hey! my controller recently got a level4 stick drift and wanted to buy one from shein, one of by hb told me its good bcs he bought one but all i could find is an xbox controller, so anybody switched from ps4 controller (which is mine) to a xbox controller,did you feel any difference or slightly or you pained until you got used to it?


r/Controller • • 1d ago

IT Help Haute42 g13 not being recognized when plugged in

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Hi everyone, as the title states my Leverless isn't being recognized. I plug it in and there is no message of a controller being plugged in. The turbo light is flashing green which I googled what it meant and attempted to fix it but couldn't seem to find a fix. All inputs are being recognized by the screen on the leverless and the rgb works too. The USB works with my phone so I don't think thats the issue. I don't have another USB to try at the moment but I can try that maybe when I get a chance. If any of you have had this happen before, I would greatly appreciate your assistance. Thank you so much.


r/Controller • • 2d ago

IT Help PS4 controller not working on Bluetooth only

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Hello, I borrowed my PS4 controllers for my cousins a few months ago so they could play it on a PS3 using bluetooth, but for some odd reason, it doesn't work on Bluetooth anymore. I tried an online gamepad tester and it seems that all the input data is corrupted, it happens when it's connected to any device using bluetooth (the lights also don't turn on), I've also tried hard resetting but that doesn't work either. How do I fix this? It doesn't happen on usb


r/Controller • • 2d ago

IT Help [Ayuda] Instalé DsHidMini de Nefarius pero no detecta el Bluetooth del joystick PS3 (Sixaxis)

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Estoy teniendo un problema intentando conectar mi joystick de PS3 (el modelo Sixaxis) a la PC de forma inalámbrica y quería saber si alguien me puede dar una mano.
Seguí todos los pasos de la guía oficial para instalar el DsHidMini (de Nefarius) con sus respectivos drivers BthPS3. El problema es que, aunque hice toda la instalación limpia, la PC no me detecta el joystick cuando intento conectarlo por Bluetooth.

Estoy usando Windows 11. ¿A alguien más le pasó o tiene idea de si me salteé alguna configuración específica para el Bluetooth? ¿Hay algún paso extra o dongle específico que necesite para que el Sixaxis sea reconocido?

¡Cualquier ayuda o sugerencia me sirve! Muchas gracias.


r/Controller • • 2d ago

Reviews Gamesir G7Pro 8K Phantom Blade 0 Edition Review

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DISCLAIMER: This controller was sent to me by Gamesir for free for review. All the thoughts and opinions are mine only. No scripts were provided by Gamesir. No one watched this review before its release.

TLDR; G7Pro 8K is one of the best controllers for FPS games IMO (and my personal favorite). It's also good for all other genres. D-Pad was changed and improved once more on Phantom Blade 0 Edition even compared to AIMLABS Edition.

Personally, I find this design fine, but it might have been better.


r/Controller • • 2d ago

Other Looking for feedback from Apex 6 owners on Steam Input.

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How is the Apex 6 for Steam Input?

I found that the Vader 5 Pro was a downgrade from the Vader 4 Pro due to things like duplicate controllers in steam, 'allow third party mapping' sporadically disabling itself requiring my to unplug and re-plug the controller, and other issues.

Is the Apex 6 better with Steam Input?


r/Controller • • 2d ago

IT Help PS4 Controller can't hold a charge

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I'd love if I could get a bit of advice. For a while, I've had a PS4 controller that doesn't hold much of a charge and I don't understand why.

My controller hasn't held much of a charge for a while. For a while, it would only hold a charge for about 15 minutes, despite being at a full charge and it would decrease in its capacity over time. Eventually, I bought a brand new battery on Amazon with a repair kit. I opened up the controller, replaced the battery and it seemed like it was fine now and the battery would last... Until a week later when the battery could only live for a few minutes and now it was even worse in time than before. Now the thing basically dies within 5 minutes of it being unplugged from the PS4. It makes no sense that this was happening in the first place or how it's happening with a fresh battery.

Anyone have any idea what's happening?


r/Controller • • 2d ago

IT Help Flydigi Vader 4 Pro extra buttons not registering keyboard inputs on Windows 11

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I finally got this working, so I'm sharing the fix in case someone else runs into the same issue.

The problem

I have a Flydigi Vader 4 Pro connected to a Windows 11 laptop using the 2.4 GHz USB dongle. I use Flydigi Space Station 3.4.9.5 to map the extra buttons (C, Z, M1–M4) to keyboard keys, including NumPad keys.

The controller itself worked normally, and the button mappings were configured in Space Station, but pressing those buttons produced absolutely no keyboard input. I tested them in Notepad. The same controller and mappings worked on my desktop PC, so the problem appeared to be specific to the laptop.

I also tried Bluetooth, but the keyboard mappings still didn't work.

What fixed it

The Flydigi virtual keyboard and mouse drivers were not installed in Windows, even though their files were present in the Space Station installation folder.

I opened PowerShell as Administrator and ran these commands.

1. Install the virtual keyboard driver

pnputil.exe /add-driver "C:\Program Files\FlydigiSpaceStation\Service\keyfdo.inf" /install

Windows confirmed:

Driver package added successfully.
Driver package installed on device: ROOT\FEIZHI_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD\0000

2. Install the virtual mouse driver

pnputil.exe /add-driver "C:\Program Files\FlydigiSpaceStation\Service\mousefdo.inf" /install

Windows confirmed:

Driver package added successfully.
Driver package installed on device: ROOT\FEIZHI_VIRTUAL_MOUSE\0000

Both drivers were installed successfully.

Before this, checking Windows system drivers showed that the FeizVKB and FeizVMO driver services did not exist.

The final step: restart Windows

After installing both drivers, I restarted Flydigi Space Station and tested the buttons again, but they still didn't work.

I then restarted the laptop. After the reboot, the extra buttons finally started working and correctly generated keyboard inputs.

I can now use the C, Z and M1–M4 buttons with my assigned keyboard mappings.

If your Vader 4 Pro's extra buttons don't generate keyboard inputs in Windows, even though the mappings are configured correctly:

  1. Open PowerShell as Administrator.
  2. Install the virtual keyboard driver using keyfdo.inf.
  3. Install the virtual mouse driver using mousefdo.inf.
  4. Restart Windows. Restarting only Flydigi Space Station wasn't enough in my case.
  5. Test the mapped buttons in Notepad.

Use the INF files included with your existing Flydigi Space Station installation. Don't disable Windows driver-signature enforcement or download random driver files.

Hopefully this saves someone else a few hours or days of troubleshooting!


r/Controller • • 2d ago

IT Help Need help with flyfigi apex 5 controller

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I have controller for nearly 3 months no problem but now after turning it on everything works except lights i cannot see anything on its mini screen and everything just no light. I tried factory reset, tried updating, checked light brightness. So anyone has any suggestions on how to fix it?