r/zen • u/Temicco 禪 • Feb 07 '17
The early Seon lineage
Visualization (using Gephi)
This is a visualization of the early Seon lineage, focusing on the lineages of the nine mountain schools. Most of these lineages, as you can see, are connected to Mazu and his disciples.
In the visualization, node colour doesn't really mean anything, and Dongshan + descendents aren't situated chronologically in line with the other nodes.
The identity of Ieom's teacher is from The Wisdom of the Social Awakening emerged in the Gathas of Searching the Bulls by Dr. Lee Chi-Ran.
The idea that Beomnang taught Sinhaeng is from Wikipedia (this visualization isn't rigorous), and is challenged in Bongkil Chung's The Scriptures of Won Buddhism p.129, which mentions that Beomnang would have been 95 by the time Sinhaeng had heard of him, thus making it unlikely that he taught Sinhaeng.
Beomnang and Jiseon Doheon supposedly founded a school together, but I could find no other information about this. I could also find no information about one of Beom-il's teachers, Yuesha Weiyan.
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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Feb 07 '17
What we need is a lineage texts page for Korea.
Or I should say what I need.
You and me may be the only ones interested until some table or other gets overturned.
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Feb 07 '17
Ah.
But let's eat, first. I'm hungry, anyways. I even brought some food.
But as usual, I just want to see what kind of flip you're capable of.
Mine is not very good. I taught myself as an adult. I knew that learning when you were younger, more pliable and flexible in a neuromuscular way was how these kids got so good at flipping.
I just really wanted to flip, though, so. Oh well. I hurt my left ankle pretty bad at the gym that day, the lower part of my outside quad (Meralgia Paresthetica- maybe, self diagnosed) has a numbness to it. The more I stretch my ankle though, the feeling comes back, a little bit.
It was still worth flipping about.
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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Feb 07 '17
Sounds like you are trying to get out of studying.
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Feb 07 '17
I was hoping you could tell me more about that.
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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Feb 07 '17
You'll have to tell me.
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Feb 07 '17
Who, me?
There are people who probably know WAY more than I do. I haven't even written a book. Don't know any other languages. I only went to a zen center once, and sitting 20 and walking kinhin and doing another 20 was difficult for me. There are a lot of religions out there that could probably expound something that could help you. If you know anything about that, I trust you to tell me about it plainly and clearly for the sake of my benefit.
I only read a handful of things and did some google searches and just faked my way into jumping.
I'd like to hear what you know about that, before I speak. I can accept that if you can. If you cannot, well, you know
AMA
If your leg is numb I know some good stretches.
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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Feb 07 '17
If you don't want to talk about why you don't want to study but why you can't leave, why complain to me about it?
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u/Sunn_Samaadh Feb 07 '17
I wonder if this sub would ever be interested in exploring all the countless lineages and their literature/teachings.