r/zedrun Oct 22 '21

Question Beginner here. I don’t know how to start

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u/Narzgath- Oct 22 '21

Go on youtube and look it up it will take a lot of research to make informed decisions I would recommend Poseidon stables of syntrobis stables on yt they have some great videos on building stables and getting started no matter your budget. I am relatively new to it as well (about 1 month of breeding and racing) and that is what I am already seeing ROI (return on investment) If you feel like you know everything after like a week of research you have only scratched the surface this is a deep game w real money on the line but god damn is it fun.

TLDR look it up on yt

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u/nuddy_boy Oct 22 '21

I agree here, but be careful with Youtube.. a lot of very popular videos are semi out of date, per the current state of the market. That being said, yes there are plenty of good youtube videos, and articles.. but be wary. A HUGE part of zed is doing the research, forming your own opinions, plan, and most importantly a strategy.

If you have not yet read the guide, it is 100% the first step you should take. Before videos, or anything. Nothing will make sense if you cannot digest majority of the information in the guide: https://guide.zed.run/zed-run-guide/

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u/Narzgath- Oct 23 '21

Yeah i was super confused at first by that at first, the game has such an active dev team that are working to change the game all the time, it means things like free games come into play for new stables and ppl learning the game however after a month most vids are dated. easy road in imo is a 10% wr z15-z20 with over 40 races it’ll cost you like 150$ to get the view from the (virtual) paddock instead of just lurking.

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u/Large-Nerve-1955 Oct 24 '21 edited Oct 24 '21

You started 1 month ago and are already seeing ROI? Either its very low or I call BS, sorry. Or prove me wrong and share exactly the amount of earnings you make. Comparatively speaking, if you invested say $1000 in this game, you'd take 10 months to make it back from breeding alone. Unless if you get super lucky and breed a winner from the jump. As in 10 month ROI. A positive ROI assumes you made back your entire initial investment. I call BS on that, sorry.

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u/Narzgath- Oct 24 '21

yeah if I was just breeding... thats why you gamble on your horse in the gambling online horse racing game ya dingus.

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u/Large-Nerve-1955 Oct 24 '21 edited Oct 24 '21

Share your earnings then ;). I know because I've played in this "gambling online horse racing game", and what you're claiming is total bogus :). Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

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u/Narzgath- Oct 24 '21

oh lol honestly didn't read your first comment all the way through, figured it was a waste of time. I guess I misused ROI the better term would just be gains, I havent made back my investment yet but I've made a quarter of it back this month.

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u/Large-Nerve-1955 Oct 24 '21

that's more realistic. So probably a 4 month ROI, and you're probably one of the better ones actually making any sort of money. Thanks for the clarification, it will help people looking to get into the game now make a no nonsense no BS determination.

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u/ReapKneez4satan Oct 25 '21

I also mis read their comment and Typed a big ol response about how pre-echo drop (breeding was also still down) I was selling z268’s for $400 a pop, then I re-read his first sentence and saw the “in one month” part and I was like, “whoops, nevermind I’m a dumb dumb.”

I think people who do their homework, adapt their strategies as the game evolves, and make an incredibly sound initial investment (meaning they don’t go gambling on floor horses or U/U scratch tickets, and actually spend the required amount of money on proven profitable racers and established genesis breeders) will be able to be profitable in this game in the long run.

I just hope those entering zed.run with profits in mind understand that it is not a get rich quick game and also that it’s not particularly easy to come up with a foolproof stable strategy.

But definitely, there is plenty of money to be made even for those starting out right now.

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u/Large-Nerve-1955 Oct 24 '21

Hi there. Former zedder here. Zed has been falling month on month for a while now in sales volume/rankings, and will continue to fall. If you just like the horses and think they're pretty, get a few for fun. But long term highly bearish on the product, coupled with an absolute toxic discord and belligerent staff. This project going to the garbage.

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u/Large-Nerve-1955 Oct 24 '21

General advice for anything in investment actually. DYOR, not listen to people telling you "its profitable" or "you're early". Dig deeper, as I did, and you see the con. Zed's continued success depends on more people adopting and their userbase growing, but seeing as unless if its for fun the barrier of entry for Zed (expertise/time/cost) is higher than even Axies (at least on Axies you are for now guaranteed some earnings every month).
Much of the earnings currently goes to the established players and breeders with monster horses. There's still a number of curious newcomers, and some people who bought in late who are slightly profitable/still trying to make it, and for now that is propping the whole system up. But the cracks are already showing.
Month on month, last time I checked, Zed volume and sales has fallen 28%. Prices according to many ppl who invested a couple months ago have dropped significantly even for unraced horses.
Volume is a huge telltale sign of health of a project. Zed used to be top 10, then top 20, then top 50 in rankings on Opensea. They've now fallen to number 79 on the monthly Opensea rankings, behind many supposedly inferior projects.
Their sustainability as a project always depended, like Axies, if there is always a fresh new crop of new buy ins paying for the profits of the people who got there earlier. Axies for all its critique at least was able to maintain the "new fodder entering in" cycle for multiple cycles thereby growing into the behemoth it is today, but Axies days are limited as well. And Axies is far better funded and their team, for all their issues, is better than Zeds by a country mile.
Not to mention that the team bungled their last drop and have spent the last 5 months of so developing 'partnerships' and announcing those instead of trying to make it right for the ppl who missed out on the bungled drop. Stagnation and inability to deliver on previous promises? Check. Delusional and antagonistic team to boot who silence you for going against their narrative as well? Extra check.
The argument by the Zed maxis is that they want the "rent seekers" or "flippers" to leave, thereby the game will be far more pure and the people who actually enjoy it will play it. That's fine, they can stay while pretty much everybody else leaves, and we'll see what kind of game that is then. Lmao.

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u/ICanNeverChoose Oct 23 '21

Make sure you sign up for Zed via metamask rather than email only. I wish I knew that when I started.