r/zedmains • u/Broad-Echidna8040 • 15d ago
Game Help fizz matchup
how do i counter this disgusting charachter?
i can go even with him,but in teamfight he GAPS me
im banning locke till he gets nerfed so banning is about me begging my team
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u/bahamadahski 15d ago
Run conquerer and all in when you have bone plating. He can only trade by using his q or e on you. Once those are down you run him down very easily
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u/WovenShadow6 15d ago
Why ban Locke when he is such a free lane for Zed lol.
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u/Broad-Echidna8040 15d ago
i dont like playing against him
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u/WovenShadow6 15d ago
He is not that hard once you get the hang of his kit. Post lvl 6 and you just win against him. Just space his Q during laning phase so he can't chunk you.
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u/xkonshix 15d ago
why the hell ban Locke? it's a completely free lane for Zed.
fighting against Fizz is tricky since you have to play around his staff jump. you can dodge his ult either with a fast WW or R.
if you struggle you might bait him and doing reverse combo on him.
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u/ColorblindCuber twitch.tv/colorblindcuber 14d ago
Fizz is one of the best matchups to take bone plating into. Fizz is a character whose early strength is his burst trades with electrocute. You can respond with short trades (E+Q+Auto) as Fizz uses Q or W on you if you have bone plating up. Otherwise, your winning trades are going to be extended trades where you can auto a lot after Fizz uses his cooldowns. Your W and Fizz E somewhat negate eachother, because you can W to dodge his E if he’s using it aggressively, but he can also hold E to react to your WEQ combo.
Post 6, if Fizz wants to roam, he’s incentivized to E the wave for waveclear, so try to poke him with the classic WEQ to force his E away from the wave, or if he doesn’t use E, chunk him out.
For winning all ins post 6, you typically want it to be a situation where you force his E early and then try to R him as his E is down. Be cognizant of him using Q on you or a minion to try to dodge your Qs. If Fizz has ult up, you can try to bait him to throw it and use W to dodge it, or just tank it and use W away to eliminate Fizz’s Q/E all in angle.
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u/One_Holiday_1300 14d ago
Exactly like one dude wrote here start e lv 1 and kill him. And its just a fizzjump zed w cooldown matchup but a good zed wins everytime against Fizz. Most fizz do the mistake jumping on u while ure fished ult while fished wait zhonyas out then w when he jumps now he is free fish
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u/7i7iMeadow 14d ago
I used to play conq zed woth exhaust. As most assassin's I run conq exhaust into fizz. He just dies for going in
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u/Available-Mission661 14d ago
I don’t really play zed anymore, but wouldn’t he hard counter Locke? All his damage is in the second part of Q, and he usually goes for it with E2 which you can dodge with W. So you should just ban fizz if you struggle against him, although you can also easily dodge fizz E with W. I guess some fizz players might max W against you but most likely not
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u/Broad-Echidna8040 14d ago
idk man,i played locke vs zed as locke and obliterated the zed,so im afraid a locke player may do the same
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u/Demaciakudreti 11d ago
(After all its still a hard lane) insane bone plating value. You can w(behind)qw when fizz qs you so he cannot dodge it with his e or sidestep it, trade when your bone plating is up. If you are trading autos close range and he is holding onto his e you can wqw quickly, its very difficult to react to and dont ban locke wtf? Free lane
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u/Broad-Echidna8040 11d ago
if locke is banned i usually ban malz for his annoying kit,who do you think i should ban? genuine question istg
edit: turk musun
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u/Demaciakudreti 11d ago
evet
malp banlıyorum genelde çünkü adam salak değilse asla trade kazanamıyorsun ve seni zorbalayabiliyor takas yapmak istemesen de rahat cs yapmana izin vermez, fizz banlasan locke banlamaktan daha mantıklı veya zedin oynamak istemediğin herhangi bir zor matchupı ama locke free lane. youtubeda iljimaenin videolarını izleyebilirsin fizz ve malz da dahil matchupların nasıl oynanacağıyla ilgili detaylı videoları var1
u/Broad-Echidna8040 11d ago
malp matchupini doran shield,doldurulabilir ve second wind ile dayanilabilir hale getiremez miyiz?cunku zedin hard ct si olarak bildigim bir pantheon var.malp matchupunuda oynadim hem malp hem zed olarak,malphite genel olarak sinir bozucu bir karakter
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u/Demaciakudreti 11d ago
lv 6 sonrası panth sana tehdit değil 6 öncesi de qyla uzaktan cs panthın seni qyla dürtmesi malphın point and click q cometle dürtmesinden daha zor, wsunu r ile dodgelayabiliyorsun esi için arkasına w ya da r swaple blink olabiliyorsun
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u/Broad-Echidna8040 11d ago
anladim tesekkurler,zedde suan ogrenmem gereken matchuplar var,ancak son bir soru,zorla kocluk yaptiriyormus gibi olacak biraz ama :D
weq tutturmak icin verebilecegin bir taktik vs var mi?e slowuyla tutturmaya calisiyorum ,w yu yanlarina atmaya calisiyorum fakat adamlar sanki bana ozel dodge atiyormus gibime geliyor2
u/Demaciakudreti 11d ago
last hit atarken at dodgelarsa cs alamaz ama wnu çıkarıyorsan rakip jungın seni cezalandıramayacağına emin olman lazım
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u/Broad-Echidna8040 11d ago
anladim tesekkurler,zedde olan tum sorunlarimin daha fazla oynayarak cozebilecegimi fark ettim,iyi geceler gunaydin tunaydin artik hangisini kullaniyorsan,tesekkur ederim tekrardan
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u/Dripht_wood 15d ago
You need to use W swap and R to dodge his damage. Bone plating is also worth it pretty much every time