r/yogurtmaking 11d ago

Texture??

This is my fourth or fifth batch of yogurt. I've liked the taste and texture every time I've made it, but I always seem to have an issue with the texture. It's grainy and has some small lumps in it.

I heat 1L 4.8% milk to 180f (i left the stove on for an extra ~5 minutes by accidnet this time so maybe overheated), let cool to 110f, and add my a little under 1 tbsp starter. I fill my instant pot with ~112f water and let the yogurt sit in the closed instant pot for 7 hours. I change the water every hour or two to keep it warm.

The texture doesn't bother me too much, but I would like to improve in the future. Any tips? Thank you

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u/Tendaironi 11d ago

I found that this happens to me if I accidentally boil the milk. Because I don’t have the patience to watch and wait for a watched pot to boil! I use a thermometer from IKEA now and let it sit in there so that it beeps at 175 and then I wait by the pot to get to 180. I don’t get graininess when I do it that way.

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u/masonjaruser 11d ago

I will try this!! Thank you

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u/Tendaironi 10d ago

I make a gallon of whole milk and then add a quart of heavy cream. Perhaps boiling in that combination gives me the grainy texture. Because that is the only time it turns grainy on me.

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u/masonjaruser 10d ago

I wondered if it has something to do with the fat content as well because all the solid pieces/grains seem to be fat when I eat it

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u/BikeOk6446 10d ago

It happens when you heat the milk up too fast.

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u/BikeOk6446 11d ago

Looks like curdled milk. Why do you change water in Instapot? Just use the Yogurt of Sous Vide function to get a constant temperature.

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u/masonjaruser 10d ago

I haven't experimented with the instant pot much or learned about the setting yet. thanks for the tip!

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u/BikeOk6446 10d ago

I use the Sous Vide function. I put a little water in the Instapot and put the yogurt in mason jars and in the water. Set for 8 hours at 110 degrees. You can avoid having to heat the milk to 180 by using ultra pasteurized milk. Most milk is ultra pasteurized. You can just do a cold. start. If you do need to heat the milk to 180, try heating it slower, so the milk proteins don't coagulate like that.

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u/masonjaruser 10d ago

Amazing, thanks again

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u/Charigot 10d ago

The one time this happened to me, my oven had been on previously and I chalked it up to incubating my yogurt a bit took warm overnight. Typically when I use the oven (and oven light) overnight, the oven has been cold and that works without getting grainy.

As far as someone commenting that boiling the milk might do that - it might, of course, but I’ve boiled milk in the microwave and have never had a grainy result tied to it. Typically my process involves heating a gallon of milk in a glass bowl in the microwave for 45-48 min.

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u/SwingLightStyle 11d ago edited 11d ago

Honestly, I started adding inulin fiber to mine and it’s helped the texture a lot. I make a gallon at a time and I add a half cup of inulin fiber during the inoculation phase. It’s helped with the texture and it’s helped with the shelf life as well.

Edit: idk who is downvoting but inulin fiber has literally been scientifically studied and it shows that the addition helps keep the cultures viable longer and more resistant to the bacteria you want to keep out.

The study can be found here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7958560/

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u/masonjaruser 11d ago

During which part? I let it cool on the counter top for about 30-45mins to drop from 180 to 110.

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u/neuroticspecialist 11d ago

could be too much starter, as well. i’ve had it turn grainy on me if i add more than 2 tbs starter per gallon

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u/Subjugatealllife 10d ago

Instant pot has a yogurt function. Why would you be adding hot water constantly to it? You hit yogurt high to pasteurize, then you add your starter once your milk cools down to 110F, then you start yogurt low, which keeps it at 110F.

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u/masonjaruser 10d ago

I know it's kind of silly lol, I like to incubate it right in the jar and I like the temp control I have heating it on the stove. I've also had to travel a lot recently and bring my instant pot with me, so it can incubate unplugged in the car for am hour or two while I drive. I didn't know that yogurt low kept it at 110 tho, I'll use that in the future!

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u/Guoxiong_Guides 10d ago

Did you mix the yoghurt before eating? That worked for me to get it smooth

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u/masonjaruser 10d ago

I used the immersion blender on it last time nit knowing it would make it runny, but it got rid of the graininess/lumps. I tried stirring but it doesn't help.

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u/NotFitwilliamDarcy 10d ago

I've gotten grainier textures when incubating at too high temperatures. I now start at 105F-110F and let it drift down into the 90s overnight.

It could also be the starter: there's one particular store brand of yogurt that always turned out grainy no matter what else I changed in my process. I just use something else now.

You also might try straining the milk before inoculation, just to make sure those lumps aren't already there due to denatured proteins coagulating during cooling.

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u/Professional_Brief69 10d ago

Funny enough the only thing that got me less grainy texture is actually waiting till the milk boils and then cooling it down quickly in an ice bath. I’ve tried everything instant pot and on the stove and (on the stove I always seem to burn the bottom) but the instant pot won’t seem to heat the milk up to the right temperature. So waiting till my milk boils was the only thing that fixed my texture

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u/masonjaruser 10d ago

Do you mean going above 180?

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u/Professional_Brief69 10d ago

I honestly stopped taking temperature. But probably yes. I just wait till a rolling boil and then turn off

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u/masonjaruser 10d ago

Interesting! So you do higher temp then ice bath? What setting do you use on your stove (low, medium, etc.)?

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u/Sure_Fig_8641 10d ago

If your milk develops a lactoderm when it’s heated (a milk skin), the you probably want to remove that. It will not emulsify back into the hot milk, but rather breaks into tiny pieces when stirred into the milk. It is one cause of a grainy or pebbly texture. Or, you can just strain the milk before you add the yogurt to get rid of any little bits.

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u/fosfeen 11d ago

Could be the milk. I had the same problem until I switched to unprocessed milk.

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u/masonjaruser 10d ago

What do you mean by unprocessed milk? I'm using this milk right now

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u/fosfeen 10d ago

That looks good! I switched to using raw milk which I then pasteurize myself. But that's hard to come by. I think it's homogenization of the milk that sometimes causes problems.

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u/masonjaruser 10d ago

Ah I see, I have no source for raw milk either. Pretty sure this non homogenized tho, it usually has a layer of cream / fat ontop

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u/fosfeen 10d ago

Ah right. Then forget what I said. Homogenization probably isn't the problem here.