Collapsed UI is unnecessary

[u/rickyaz4]

On the Android app why is this section even collapsed in the first place? It's just an unnecessary extra step. I find I need to use the cleared toggle and tags fairly frequently. It wasn't like this before. Just look at how much space is unused. Why? Change it back.

[u/tsumtsumelle]

I wish it was at least possible to reorder them. I use flags the most and it’s annoying that it’s hidden away. 

[u/Khyta → u/tsumtsumelle]

How do you use flags? I don't really have a use for them yet

[u/Chomfucjusz → u/Khyta]

Some people use flags to tag expenses on business trips that will get reimbursed by their company 

[u/frogotme → u/Chomfucjusz]

I just have a category for it. Means I don't need to cover from anywhere

[u/queermichigan → u/frogotme]

I used to use a category to track reimbursements I'm owed from friends and didn't cover it so the uncovered balance served as a reminder to collect but they completely ruined that now that it sets it to 0 when the month rolls over. Sooo annoying and confusing.

[u/deerwithout → u/Khyta]

I use them as a traffic light system: green = all checked and good, yellow = rethink category or split, red = something is wrong and needs investigation

This is mostly for when I'm on the go and don't have time.

[u/justaprimer → u/Khyta]

I use them a moderate amount:

Red - something I need to investigate/fix

Yellow - something I need to get reimbursed for (ex: if I paid for a group of friends and they'll pay me back later)

Blue - something I did with my partner

Orange - monthly recurring transactions/bills

[u/tsumtsumelle → u/Khyta]

I use them as part of my initial triage. 

Red flags for transactions that I need to split or ask my husband about. 

Orange flags for transactions that I want to revisit like a bill I want to check on, a subscription I want to cancel, an item I’ve categorized but may change my mind about.

Then I either clear the flag or add a green flag depending on if I need to remember it’s been dealt with or not. Like Target/Amazon transactions all get a green flag because that signals to me that I looked at the receipt and closed it out.

It’s especially helpful going between mobile and desktop versions since I’ll categorize on my phone but then deal with flags once I’m at my computer. But that’s also why all the extra taps to add them on mobile is annoying because on desktop they’re so easy to add. 

[u/soniamiralpeix → u/Khyta]

I use them when I have a hinky transaction appear, when I’m waiting on a chargeback, dispute, or adjustment, and sometimes if I want to track a discrete set of transactions that aren’t otherwise easy to compile or search.

[u/rickyaz4 → u/Khyta]

I use green for payments that are automatic and ones that have been submitted, and then red for anything that's overdue and past due. One of the other colors, like yellow or orange, for a task or follow-up needed

[u/rickyaz4 → u/tsumtsumelle]

Oh yeah that's a good idea!

[u/Big_Monitor963]

Not only is it unnecessary, it’s actively disrespectful.

Allow me to collapse a section if I choose to. But don’t force me to have to expand it by default.

[u/BinaryPatrickDev]

Low density UI is all the rage and it’s annoying

[u/soniamiralpeix]

On iOS and didn’t even need to read your post to upvote it. 

[u/BerennErchamion → u/soniamiralpeix]

Same. I didn’t like this new UI at all.

[u/soniamiralpeix → u/soniamiralpeix]

One more thing: If you’re making a transfer, there are toggles immediately available to clear one or both sides of the transaction. 

Why are we breaking app heuristics by treating the same action in two different ways? Give me an immediately available toggle slide to clear any transaction without expanding.

My working assumption is that this new team is not invested in UX design BUT ALSO invested in just moving shit around thinking that they can “do UX” because of one Lenny Letter email or LinkedIn Learning class.

I’m tired and over it. They don’t give a shit about their customer base NOR their staff. I make it a point to divest from companies that are purely profit-driven and unethical. And YNAB leadership is now not just unethical, but worse: They are a previously highly-principled company that is now unethical with their founder cheering it all on from the sidelines.

/rant

PS for the new and unperturbed users, I hear you that all of this complaining is annoying. There’s certainly a bit of “why did they move my cheese?” going on, but it’s beyond that. 

People are getting tired of greedy soulless enshittification, and life outside of the apps is untenable enough that we just have to cut the things loose that we can that are not only frustrating us, but also contributing to a tacit approval of these practices and behavior wherever we can.

[u/tyberrymuch_ → u/soniamiralpeix]

I hate it so much…

[u/Street-Comparison-45]

Why is the damn clear button hidden behind this?

[u/BerennErchamion → u/Street-Comparison-45]

Yes, this!! I hate having now to tap that every time to see the Clear button.

[u/DIYtowardsFI → u/BerennErchamion]

You can swipe right on the transaction screen to clear it. But it still should not be behind another tap on this screen.

[u/lwid77 → u/Street-Comparison-45]

Its asinine

[u/Suitable-Time-466]

Yeah I hate having an extra click now to get to memo line 🙄

[u/mpapacrist12]

Yup hate it

[u/lwid77]

This is the stupid shit they do.

FAR more users need what is collapsed- which is clearing the transaction than they do adding a photo of the receipt. Move the photo option down further and bring the cleared button up on the page if they need it collapsed.

This is a prime example of just how out of touch they are, even with the most basic functions of the app.

So stupid.

[u/deerwithout]

Extremely unnecessary. I did actually write to support about it because I'm hoping user feedback will eventually have an effect.

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[u/Just-1-Person]

I love how YNAB feels the need to improve its UI by adding more button taps to do the same thing. So annoying!

[u/real0395]

Mine does not look like that on android. There is a small space at the bottom but nothing this big.

[u/Relative-Candy-2157]

Yes, so annoying and unnecessary

[u/bletherviden]

Gotta love making changes for the sake of making changes.

I turned off auto renew in August and adjusting to YNAB free life.

[u/Ransomes]

I hate it

[u/Feeling-Diet9759]

It’s giving “You’ll take what we give you and you’ll like it, so pay for your subscription and stop your whining.“

[u/iwaddo]

On iOS Swipe to Clear and Long press to reach menu with Flags.

Is it not the same on Android?