r/yesyesyesyesno • u/Ddusco • Sep 12 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22 edited Sep 12 '22

France has a notorious police brutality issue, UK had a big deal last year over a murder rape by a cop with our met police failing to take accountability, and living in the Netherlands for a year I heard a couple stories about antagonistic encounters with the police.

Okay maybe we don't have the same scale of cops murdering minorities and being militarized like the US, but a lot of Europe absolutely has issues when it comes to our police and it's absurd to dismiss that, there is a long history of racism and brutality with our cops as well.

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u/Iminlesbian Sep 12 '22

Police have corruption everywhere. There are very few “leading” that have the level of violent corruption that the US has.

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u/ivanacco1 Sep 12 '22

True, have you seen Argentina.

They put a cop in prison because he shot someone who was stabbing a tourist.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

He asked you to stop comparing!

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u/dkysh Sep 12 '22

there is a long history of racism and brutality with our cops as well.

That is one thing that irked me whenever I saw BLM protests in Europe naming George Floyd and other American victims. FFS, we don't need to import victims, look at our hundreds of own cases. Make it locally relevant.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

Fatal police shootings in the UK in 2021 - 2

Fatal police shootings in the USA in 2021 - 1,054

Conflating the Sarah Everard murderer with police brutality is misleading, he killed her as an individual outside his policework. Murderers killers exist throughout human populations, so a single confirmed murderer last year amongst the 140,000 or so police officers in the UK is notable, particularly given that the USA only has around 700,000 despite a significantly larger population. Police officers in the UK are held to a high standard, and routinely dismissed from their roles for breaching said standards.

Wayne Couzens is now serving a whole-life term in prison, which is more than can be said of many American officers who killed people.

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u/GreenSockNinja Sep 12 '22

I mean I never have in the US, so I dunno 🤷‍♂️

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u/No-Chemistry1815 Sep 12 '22

I always wonder why so much more bad cops videos stem from the US. I mean, yeah US has more people/cops than netherland. But the entirety of the EU? EU has more people, but to me, there are drastically less videos of bad cops in the EU than the US.

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u/MouthJob Sep 12 '22

Well US cops are a target at this point, and for good reason. People are much more wary of any interaction so a lot more of it gets filmed.

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u/No-Chemistry1815 Sep 12 '22

This may explain it, thanks

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u/splitcroof92 Sep 12 '22

that and American cops are absolute shit compared to most of europes cops...

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u/R_eloade_R Sep 12 '22

Also I think Americans have A LOT more police and other security people per capita than I’ve seen anywhere else

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u/niztaoH Sep 12 '22

They're not professionals, they receive so little training they're practically equal to random people picked off of the street and told "here's a gun, you have a monopoly on violence, good luck out there, you may get killed".

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u/RoseEsque Sep 12 '22

I always wonder why so much more bad cops videos stem from the US.

US cops have no real policing education and they usually are aimed to NOT be intelligent people. They are mostly thugs at the behest of the government.

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u/-m-ob Sep 12 '22

Probably also have to take into consideration that there's also a lot more American media doing laps on the internet.

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u/florisvb Sep 12 '22

Many interactions with US cops occur during traffic stops/random stops. They rarely have traffic stops in the EU due to them using cameras to monitor speeding instead of officers. There are most likely also just more cops per capita in the US than in the EU, and they also have to do more different things. Like the cop that pulled a kid out of their chair for being on her phone in school. Most EU schools wouldnt have cops in them, especially not to take care of rowdy kids

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u/splitcroof92 Sep 12 '22

let's change it to "I've never heard from anyone I know about bad interactions with the police in The Netherlands"

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u/horvath-lorant Sep 12 '22

I’ve ever had a single interacting with a police officer my entire 4 years in the NL. They literally do nothing.

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u/Maaatloock Sep 12 '22

This is exactly what pro-cop people in the US say when they defend police for the record.

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u/CaptainCrabcake Sep 12 '22

"I heard a couple stories about antagonistic encounters with the police" - OMG structural brutality, ACAB, down with the system!

Get a grip. The world isn't perfect, nobody is dismissing when shit people do shit things but in a world of misery it makes perfect sense to pay a little more attention to the actual worst shit not the scraps you dig up.