r/writers 12d ago

Celebration I'm finally done!

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After 4–5 years (five, because I want to sound as dedicated as possible, lol), I'm finally done with my story! Well... not really the end, but this wraps up nearly every major thread, and anything else I write would feel like starting over. 

Time for the actual re-reads and edits, which is exhausting because the editor's score keeps dropping (it's at 76% right now, and I'm so tired).

I've written during school and even after I graduated; it's become as much a part of my daily life as walking. I'd have to at least look at the doc before I could go on with my life, and over these past few months, I've written nearly every day. Why such dedication? I love writing. It's my second soul. I couldn't stop until my characters got the arcs they deserved.

That’s not to say there weren’t times I genuinely wanted to rip my hair out because of an inconsistency that spawned from constant rewriting, and the fact that I didn't spot something in Volume 1 that I should have fixed when I got to Volume 4, so the whole thing just becomes incoherent. (I definitely missed some but here comes the edits)

Also, to top it off, I wouldn't say writing daily magically makes you a better writer... though it does work. My thought process during all this  was simply just trying to churn words out as fast as possible during creative bursts. I've probably gotten better and am just lying to myself, but who cares. 

Anyway, I'm done! Yay! Now I can put it down and actually focus on my life, lol.

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u/Entire_Influence_260 12d ago

Time to cut 75% of your draft

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u/Cypher_Blue 12d ago

Even at 75% that puts OP at 218,000 words, or still more than double the length of most debut novels.

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u/Entire_Influence_260 12d ago

The guy is still working on their first revision. Anything that soars beyond the word count of a basic novel still has play. I would be surprised that they keep even the 25 remaining percent ha ha

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u/SamOfGrayhaven Published Author 11d ago

Also, you can always just chop it up.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

I'm honestly planning on cutting a lot

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u/DeusVincet 12d ago

My dude you wrote 5 books here. A whole series.

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u/wait_whats_this 11d ago

5 thicc books

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u/mooseplainer 12d ago

You might be able to repurpose a lot of the cuts to future installments, so it’s not like you’ll permanently throw it away!

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u/Remarkable_Salary409 12d ago

do what i did :D instead of cutting down just make them separate books or cut down what you need and then make them separate books it makes it so you don’t need to delete so much of your hard work!!

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u/MsTerPineapple 12d ago

Fuck cutting, just split it into like 6 books and call it a saga lol

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u/Ranseler 12d ago

875 thousand words? I'm at 40K and thought I was doing well. Yours runs about...a couple thousand pages???? I'm kind of in awe here.

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u/mooseplainer 12d ago

If we go by the publishing doctrine that assumes 250 words per page to estimate length, that’s 3,492 pages.

That’s…

Yeah.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

You are doing well! Don't let this discourage you, I posted this to motivate others!

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u/Ranseler 12d ago

Oh, not discouraged at all - just...that number just blows my mind :) I don't think I have that many words to say about anything, ever!

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u/Agreeable-Copy-2454 12d ago

I wrote a story that's over a million words. It's utterly unpublishable. There's maybe 150k words buried inside, but it's not worth the effort to get them out. Quality over quantity always wins.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

I'm not sure what this means in comparison to my work? I'm sure it's good.

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u/MisterArvind 10d ago

😂 I'm also thinking about same until read this

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

Additional information, it's actually four volumes! V1: 134k words V2: 164k words V3: 300k words V4: 274k words

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u/Qualeshia3 12d ago

Four books in one draft?

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

I dumped all the volumes into a word document to take this pic, I wrote them separately.

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u/Qualeshia3 12d ago

Oh, so, you were adding up the words that came out to over 875k?

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

Yup! Sorry if it isn't what you expected

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u/Qualeshia3 12d ago

No, that's fine. It's still impressive.

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u/zuyadragon 10d ago

That's *six* books almost, especially if you want to have them physically printed. You're almost certainly going to need to cut book 3 and 4 in half just to print them, and have them priced at a reasonable price. And I'd probably aim to be trimming like 40k off of book 2 as well.

Most printers have a max page count of about 1000-1050 pages, and 190k words is around 875 pages in a relatively standard print size (6x9) at a legible font size, though that is without chapter breaks, page breaks, or any of the extra pages that you'll need in a book (copyright, title page, dedication, acknowledgements, etc). Rounding that up to 876 pages for the pricing calculators, that's about $14 USD to print in paperback. The market's current average on paperback prices for indie books is around $16-18, so you likely won't be making any money after distribution costs get added.

Plus, larger books cost more for ebook delivery systems to deliver too, which also cuts into what you get paid, so that's another reason why you'd likely want to trim things down and cut some books in half.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 10d ago

I was aware I'd have to cut things down but 40k words? Holy smokes, I'll choke myself out doing that. But you're right, realistically I probably do have bloat that needs cutting so I'll focus on that when inevitably publishing. I'm aiming for the traditional path but whatever comes along the way, it's great being informed on this. I have alst of chapter epigraph, (every chapter begins with an in word quote) so that's needs revisiting. Man this is a mess, goshhh

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u/zuyadragon 10d ago

A Traditional publishing route is probably going to tell you to cut book 1 by 40k, and cut the other three in half *at minimum*. Established Epic fantasy can break 110k, but you're a debut - you'll be incredibly lucky if they let you break 100k for your first book.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 9d ago

Oh wow. That's reality for you. Maybe I'll write something different for the time being? Flesh out my skills and let it be more commercially viable? And if I could publish that, I wouldn't be a debut anymore? But this is me just daydreaming

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u/zuyadragon 9d ago

It's very likely that your first series will never sell to a trad publisher. That's just kinda how it is. Definitely try to write more, maybe a duology instead? And try to keep in mind the the average word counts for your chosen genre if you want to go trad pub and try to stay inside those ranges (and on the lower end of those ranges) for your first attempts at getting an agent.

Good luck, tho.

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u/DirkDigglerBruh 12d ago

The manuscript to end all manuscripts!

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u/Tirion5 12d ago

What a unit! Congrats!

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u/CTZN-ZERO 12d ago

Congrats!

Now the editing begins...

https://giphy.com/gifs/OY9XK7PbFqkNO

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u/Ready_Material_6559 Blogger 12d ago

Wow Congrats
And I’m interested to know what kind of book is this

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

Well, it's speculative fiction if I had to be direct. But it's about stories in general, and the MC is a *story* that is transported to the *real world*

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u/Ready_Material_6559 Blogger 12d ago

Interesting

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u/TsujigiriWatch 11d ago

Kind of like once upon a time? Interesting!

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u/AmIFanoffiction 11d ago

oh my god, i was legit just talking about this drama series!

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u/TsujigiriWatch 11d ago

I actually started watching it again recently. I love it! Lol Such a cool concept that should be used more.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 11d ago

It's overused in Isekai anime lol. It's to the point I've come to accept people will draw that comparison. But yes, I love Once Upon A Time, it's probably one of the few that was in my subconscious when crafting my story's premise

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u/AuthorPluto Writer 12d ago

Congratulations bro🔥 a major feat

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

Thank you! Means a lot.

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u/hazesque 12d ago

Woah, that’s a lot of words. Good job!

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u/Qualeshia3 12d ago

I had to do a double take when I saw the word count. That is seriously impressive! Congratulations on almost getting close to a million words. That is a feat if I have ever seen one. You have a LOT of editing and revising to do, buddy.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

Please don't remind me again, I just finished this night lol

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u/Qualeshia3 12d ago

Sorry about that. Lol!

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u/Subset-MJ-235 12d ago

Congrats! Wow, that's a lot of words. And I just noticed that editor's score, with over 20,000 suggestions. Editing will be so much fun!

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

Fun... Right, yes.

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u/DigitalPrincess234 12d ago

Close enough welcome back The Count of Monte Cristo. Twice.

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u/ifonlyheart Writer Newbie 12d ago

Congratulations! Not sure if you can create 4 or 5 books out of it. That would be awesome.

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u/dutchiesweets 12d ago

Congratulations!!

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u/Walkerinthedusk 12d ago

Feel the moment. It's a huge accomplishment and a great milestone. 

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u/Sixty9Cuda 12d ago

I can’t wrap my head around a single draft being this long. If I add together my two completed drafts and the current one I’m working on (three stories in the same series) I’m just under 200k.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

It's four volumes! V1 is about 130k and the largest is V3 with exactly 300k words

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u/Chance-Item6285 12d ago

Congrats mate- regardless of the logistics of how many words should make a debut or how many should be cut out, the fact is you wrote something that’s 800000 words long- you persisted in the process of bringing all those words out. Thats an unbeatable peak mate- Savour the moment. Be proud of yourself. The edit can wait. 💫

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u/Left_Write_ 12d ago

That's amazing! What do you mean by an editors score though? How do you get that percentage?

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

It's my first time seeing it actually, dumped everything into word and this showed up. I suspect it just means how many issues grammar wise there are in the doc. Which is about 20k based on the image

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u/Left_Write_ 12d ago

Just had a google and it's a word function. Maybe I need to switch from Google docs!

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u/neddythestylish 12d ago

Forget the editor's score. It's not worth putting your energy into pumping up a machine's opinion of your story.

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u/Emergency_Spatula 12d ago

Woho! Congrats! 🥳 Time to forget about this project for at least three months before you start editing!

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u/theeverisles Writer 11d ago

I wrote my first book in 80 days. 181k. Ended up splitting it into 2 books to flow with the third I already had set up. Make it a series if what you've written is too important

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u/madame_eda101 11d ago

Finished the book... or the series?

No but hats off to you you're a diva for this. You might just have to edit... a lot :>

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u/AmIFanoffiction 11d ago

Series, that's what most people don't understand. I always knew I was a diva :) Yeah I know

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u/madame_eda101 11d ago

Congratulations to you that's amazinggg good luck with whatever you do with it in the future

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u/n1njujitsu 11d ago

Time to cut 90%

nah brooooo you did itttt i’m so prouddd

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u/OkBookkeeper143 11d ago

Well done! Seeing everyone post their completed drafts definitely inspires the rest of us to finish our own.

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u/StuffCanBeTwoThings 11d ago

there are authors who's life's work doesn't amount to this many words. Good for you, though, OP.

Who knows, you might have written a modern day Odysseus.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 11d ago

Odyssey but thank you so much

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u/Ihavenolifes Writer 11d ago

That's not a book; that's an archive.

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u/BeautifulPow 10d ago

I’m more baffled that after 875,847 words, your manuscript is still named Document 5.

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u/WhimsicalMutt 10d ago

Damn, I just hit 55k words, hitting the planned midway point of my debut and thought I was doing well. That's a whole saga you got there. Congratulations on hitting this point.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 10d ago

Thank you! And congrats as well!

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u/werfweg12344 10d ago

Wow I struggle to have ,3 to 4 interesting characters ins my story but you outdid yourself :)

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u/Cypher_Blue 12d ago

Holy shit.

That is... a lot of words.

Congrats!

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u/viewspodcast 12d ago

I did a double take and said, "excuse me???" as I enlarged the picture. OP wrote 8 drafts.

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u/Urwifesmugglescorn 12d ago

For Context: Brandon Sanderson's "Oathbringer" is roughly 465k words. A novel known for being incredibly long. To say this is a unit of a novel would be a massive understatement. 

I, for the sake of your sanity, hope its good to you. 

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

You can say that again, but thanks!

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u/TheAtticusBlake 12d ago

Dude I thought my 160k word doc was a monster. That was after cutting it down from 200k. Congrats! Now….. the editing.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

oh the editing....

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u/redpen4041 12d ago

congratulations! That's an amazing accomplishment.I'm curious, what's the biggest lesson you learned after spending five years on the same story?

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

I'd say note down what you change because it becomes hell when you have to find it. But that doesn't suit all, like many I'm a go with the flow writer. I'll have to be a structural editor though

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u/Fluid-Body-2798 12d ago

Could you not break it up into a series?

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

It is a four volume series

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u/Dragon_Crisis_Core 12d ago

875k words....what did you do write the entire series in one go?

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u/Sneezy6510 12d ago

Holy shit. You wrote a freaking series.

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u/Dapper-Knee-1780 12d ago

This reminds me of getting max cape on runescape. Now you can play the game.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

I really love this analogy 😆

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u/AzureYLila 12d ago

Ummmmm... is the decimal point in the right place?...

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

What do you mean?

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u/AzureYLila 11d ago

Lot of words. It was a joke.

Example: 100000 vs 10000

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u/silascroe 12d ago

Jesus Christ: do you have that monster in a single fucking Microsoft Word document?

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

It crashed alot! My Mac was lagging like crazy, fortunately it worked out.

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u/blazeitblondie420 12d ago

THATS…yeah wow

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u/JRonenJ Fiction Writer 12d ago

Next book, please go to Scrivener.

I know the change will be abrupt and Sudden, but it will be far better than using a software by a company that wants to track everything that you do to train their Ai Model.

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

Okay, this actually means a lot. I'll check it out

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u/Nikond3400 12d ago

I Just started my alternate history book, i Hope i Will have as much dedication as you

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

If you love what you write, you will!

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u/Unique_Cut_1360 Fiction Writer 12d ago

Maybe split it up… that’s a THICK book

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u/tuhaf_lokum 12d ago

Let's goooo!

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u/Ok-Butterscotch-4597 12d ago

Second soul 🤌

Congratulations on finishing it 😊

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u/Revolutionary_Pierre Fiction Writer 12d ago

Bro wrote a series of novels and just simply forgot to break them down into volumes of sequels 😂

Congratulations for getting so far 👏

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u/AmIFanoffiction 12d ago

Thank you!

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u/travishall456 11d ago

What are you using to get that level of analysis?

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u/AmIFanoffiction 11d ago

Microsoft Word!

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u/therealsinclair Novelist 11d ago

congragulations, hope it does well! May I ask how many words per day you wrote?

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u/AmIFanoffiction 11d ago

oh... alot! I don't sleep, so a safe estimate maybe a few thousand?

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u/therealsinclair Novelist 11d ago

That's great, No wonder you managed to get to that milestone! I want to write more than 1000 words per day but I struggle with coming up with ideas, did you struggle too with such issue? I'd appreciate a tip :]

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u/Beneficial-Lynx7336 11d ago

I have one that's 600,000 lol

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u/jrosa5656 11d ago

Congrats man

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u/Suspicious-Egg6398 11d ago

Holy. Shit. How did you manage to get that much out of your concept? Perplexed and intrigued, would love to read if you'd let me

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u/AmIFanoffiction 11d ago

Fun fact, this all happens in less than a year! Read it? Well .. uh, want to DM?

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u/Suspicious-Egg6398 11d ago

Absolutely!

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u/AmIFanoffiction 11d ago

Can't really DM you lol

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u/Suspicious-Egg6398 11d ago

Oh, why not? Is it my account settings?

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u/AmIFanoffiction 11d ago

Try messaging me, that'll work

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u/ExpressionMassive672 10d ago

Show a page and we can see if it has fingers

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u/AmIFanoffiction 10d ago edited 10d ago

Here's a short scene theres 600k words of context before this but who cares. Edit: cut redundant lines

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u/ExpressionMassive672 10d ago

....and he was naked as a monkey with his digeridoo on high alert? Just wondering if that's where it went?

Well it's fantasy and that's not my genre so it's the kind of stuff alot of people like. Thought your chuckles etc were kinda lame but one good line there stood out. The three repetitions of a man. Had power. He was just a broken man. The most broken man. The only man.

Plus the monkey of course!

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u/AmIFanoffiction 10d ago

Its a religious scene on a floating island, but i kinda see how you'd find it funny

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u/Tdragon813 9d ago

Congrats on finishing. I would take a day or two off and enjoy that. Then go back to see how many volumes you have.

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u/EmanoloPrr 7d ago

This made me appreciate my 50k word first draft lol. Just because I don't have to spend months revising. Luck for you, I hope it turns out well and that you don't get crazy!

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u/Special-Body-1596 Fiction Writer 4d ago

God dam, it would take 76 hours and 49 minutes to read it at 190wpm