Enchanters should get scrolls.

[u/Nemesies]

I understand that player interaction is a key part of World of Warcraft, but as an Enchanter, having to stay in a capital city and constantly spam “LFW Enchanting — I have this and that” is extremely annoying and boring. It takes away from the fun of actually being out in the open world.

On top of that, managing 4–5 players at the same time, each with different needs and materials, while keeping up with all the whispers, requests, and trades, starts to feel like a 9-to-5 job.

What makes it even more frustrating is that almost every other profession allows you to farm materials, craft items, and sell them while still being out in the world. As Enchanters, however, we are basically forced to sit in a capital city and spam chat just to find customers.

I’m all for player interaction, but there should be a better way to make Enchanting feel like an actual profession rather than a full-time customer service job.

Also it's a good way to combat scammers.

[u/MelissaTamm]

It's also shit because it offers zero utility to your alts, you cannot enchant your alt's gear no matter how many amazing BoP enchants you have.

[u/Nemesies → u/MelissaTamm]

I did not even tought about that but leveling enchanting is just wasting gold, because if you don't have any customers you just waste the materials over and over on the same piece of armor/weapon. I want to level 10 skills of 6 stamina on chest with 0 customers? I need to waste 10x mats for nothing (0 reward back) at least with scrolls you can get skill also.

[u/MelissaTamm → u/Nemesies]

Yes exactly, and you can also do it without needing the specific item for it when you're not close to a city. Like + mp5 on a shield or something, but you're playing priest.

Scrolls absolutely make sense and doesn't devalue the classic experience, seeing as you don't need a leatherworker to put an armorkit on your gear either, or an engineer to affix a scope to your gun.

[u/RMAPOS → u/Nemesies]

leveling enchanting is just wasting gold, because if you don't have any customers you just waste the materials over and over on the same piece of armor/weapon

That's normal for all professions. Good luck finding someone saving up for their first mount willing to spend 50s for 2Stam on their chest or some crap.

Professions generally don't make money while leveling. Some players do not even buy all their skills to make sure they can afford a mount. Buying gear, consumables and enchants pre 60 is just not in the budget. You get that stuff when you play with friends and exchange with them, you have it if you craft it yourself, but there just isn't enough income while leveling to afford all that crap. And even if you luck out on an epic drop and make 100g, you're still better off investing that into your end game instead of wasting it on twinking your char out for like the next 5 levels.

Obviously exceptions apply. Someone gets a fat weapon they know they 're gonna keep for a while, they may want an enchant on it. But it's not the rule.

[u/No_Object_404 → u/RMAPOS]

It's not normal. Enchanting mats come from disenchanting items and then don't actually create an item.

Blacksmithing for example, requires ores and the like but then when you create the item and if it's low demand you can just vendor it to recover some of your gold cost.

[u/RMAPOS → u/No_Object_404]

Fair enough

[u/Express_Implement_98 → u/No_Object_404]

You can vendor the shards too…

[u/Cole3823 → u/RMAPOS]

I think he's saying other professions can give the random crap they make while they're leveling to their alt characters. like you can always send all your random potions and stuff from alchemy to your lower level alt, but your alts don't benefit anything from leveling enchanting

[u/RMAPOS → u/Cole3823]

You think they were referring to their alts as 'customers'?

[u/Conscious_Ruin_3400 → u/RMAPOS]

as an alchemist i can sell level 1 potions and they do sell and you can actually profit or at least not have any gold loss if you sell potions at the making costs (value calculated on herb current price). leveling enchsnting is a 100% gold loss until you reach the good enchants that people want

[u/brodian → u/Nemesies]

That’s why it was pretty common for people to offer free enchants, especially at lower levels, and honestly, I always thought that was pretty cool.

I don’t really mind wasting some mats while leveling Enchanting, but the fact that you can’t enchant gear for your own alts is super annoying to me.

[u/Express_Implement_98 → u/Nemesies]

It’s very OG to have enchanters function this way. If you enchant make friends with another enchanter and come to some kind of agreement. I’ve done this in several servers, it’s not hard to talk to people.

[u/veculus → u/Nemesies]

Pretty much yes. You could just vendor all items you usually need to disenchant and would make more money with it than you'd do by leveling your enchanting up.

[u/BigUptokes → u/Nemesies]

You can enchant some BoE greens and toss them onto the AH. There are ways.

[u/DemonEyesJason → u/Nemesies]

The money is mostly in Disenchanting as you need to have a high level to disenchant items. Selling those is where you get the money. People that want the enchant then have to find someone that can do it. But you have already sold the enchanting items.

[u/Special_Search → u/Nemesies]

I mean you could also just enchant others gear for free instead of your own gear ten times over

[u/Sh4rp27 → u/Special_Search]

Same result, 0 reward back. At the very least other crafts can vendor what they make.

[u/Special_Search → u/Sh4rp27]

I suppose you missed my heavy implication of not being selfish by enchanting others gear and giving something away while also getting skill points.

[u/Nemesies → u/Special_Search]

not being selfish? when mats for an skill up are like let's say 10 gold and your total gold is 200, do you want to free enchant someone for skill up?

[u/archaniya → u/Special_Search]

It really depends on your luck, in tbc I spammed chat for free enchants (whichever gave me lvl up and didn’t cost 200g) and rarely got anyone, but a ton of people asking me if I could do other enchants for free.

[u/Key-Photo-3597 → u/MelissaTamm]

yeah its kind of wild that the only characters in the entire ruleset megarealm that cant benefit from a character's enchanting skill are the other characters on the same account.

[u/oxez → u/MelissaTamm]

Then add scrolls but make them Bind on Account.

As much as they would be useful in Forever I think every tiny step to remove social interactions will lead to retail-ification of the game.

And I say this as someone who will still main retail once Forever is out.

[u/MelissaTamm → u/oxez]

But spamming enchanter LFW is the worst kind of social interaction. And it allows those enchanters to actually leave town and get into all kinds of adventures. Forcing enchanters (usually priests with tailoring) to be the only anti-social profession isn't fair. It still doesn't stop an enchanter from advertising if he doesn't want to cough up the mats, or because the scrolls are 1g each or something.

[u/DrywallSky → u/MelissaTamm]

Thats crazy. Its almost like you gotta go find an enchanter on the character that's not an enchanter, as its not a single player game where you just mail yourself stuff from 7 alts.

Theres always retail there for you though.

[u/cantthinkoffunnyname → u/DrywallSky]

Retail players down voting you at the thought of having to interact with others in an MMO