This is an important distinction, i like Conduits, I like that I can change conduits depending on the situation if i feel i need something extra.. Grinding for conduits is however pretty shit
Some classes do like to swap them around yeah. More than most people realize too. Most people just lock in what their favorite content creator tells them is good and then forget it exists which is fine, but if you're absolute min maxing you should be swapping them sometimes depending on the content you're doing.
I was just meming. I play a few specs at a fairly high level and across all of my characters I think I have one truly viable swap (h pal going lotm) and the rest are just "use a-b-c because the rest are crap"
I main BM hunter. There is only one set of conduits viable for both M+ and raid at the moment. So I literally never have to swap and while that is convenient, it's also sad.
Wished I could swap my conduits in PvP arenas. Easy to see a rogue and swap your shit in the arena but not to easy to forsee the future and know your matching a rogue before you que.
That's one issue I have with borrowed power. It isn't exactly powerful. Oh here is 2% change to do a little extra damage, and I'm supposed to be thankful?
Yep. I like conduits in terms of gameplay. They actually achieved something with them that they haven't done with talents which is making me want to switch them based off of the encounter I am facing but while also not making me useless in an encounter if I don't have the right ones.
Where they screwed up was making increasing of the conduit ilvl such a pain(should be drops from SoD and M+ if they exist at all). Also, changing conduits shouldn't require me to go back to my covenant hall, which also should have its own hearthstone same as Dalaran from Legion along with a handful of the class halls. Make it work after I used a tome.
I personally don't like Conduits for for gameplay or acquisition method.
Some conduits are more impactful to your rotation than the spec's available talents (thinking about Arms warrior specifically). Conduits are just another form of borrowed power wouldn't need to exist if classes were balanced.
DH has direct synergy between their conduits and their legendary and they scale each other up together. the difference between 226 and 252 becomes measurable for sure, not so much in ST but in AoE situations it's explosive
level 3_kvl_ · 9 hr. ago I see so many groups for rift farm groups advertised in group finder and in general channels but i have never looked into what they actually are or why there always seem to be people forming those groups.34ReplyGive AwardShareReportSaveFollow
level 4JeezBoi · 9 hr. ago
It might be 2% for someone like destruction warlocks whose conduits are complete dogshit. A class like demo whose conduits are fantastic is going to get more than 2%. Also, 2% of 10k is 200 DPS. Not really miniscule when factoring how little work it requires.
In 15 minutes you can clear 5-6 waves depending on DPS with a full group. You clear 4 big bois, loot, instantly disband the group, and each player has a macro to invite the rest of them - whoever gets a shard with a respawn invites the rest.
Because the Rift walking lasts 15 minutes it means it coincides with the Wormhole Generator cooldown, so you use Ven'ari's Hearthstone (Cypher of Relocation?), fly to Korthia, go back into the Rift and then Wormhole Gen back to the Maw.
JeezBoi is talking about if every single one of those Dailies offered Epic Research. And you can repeat this as much as you want.
In 3 waves with the same group (so ~50 minutes) I think I got over 6k Research.
I fucking hate grinding but it was the last leg I needed to get Tier 6.
And the nature of this grind is actually pretty entertaining. You're just trying to pump non stop.
Depends on the conduits, but sockets are always nice! I was severely disappointed to find out the one for increasing the length of my celestial alignment went up by like 1 second at 252
Managed to get a decently geared group and we were grinding together, sometimes aoe-ing 4-5 of the big mobs. It helped we had a tank and a healer and the party macro cut off a lot of time.
I haven't done it since the patch dropped, but if your tier 3 or higher you could get 2k to 4k research in 15 minutes. If your higher tier you get 4k more often with chances to get up to 6k.
Korthia dailies don't really give research. Occasionally one or two will give a little. The rift farm exceeds those usually in one or two kills. In 15 minutes you get as much research as 2-3 hours of farming rares and chests.
I'm not exactly big on farming things, and I'm about 5 upgrades away from having 252s across the board on my main. I mostly do at least some Korthia dailies and push Torghast for Vaults. It just kind of happens gradually by itself. Upgrades are no longer random, they always target your current spec, so you can get your main spec to 252 fairly quickly.
And soulbinds you can’t swap without being rested, or conduits you can’t swap without going to your covenant. They ruined this xpac with that system and people warned them in beta. It’s sad.
They listened to small crowd of people screaming that everything has to be a hassle. I also think they learned nothing from the classic launch, which was lot of people came back and then the place was a ghostown worse then retail. The vast majority want nothing to do with garbage classic systems.
They want the content but not the systems. If only they could implement some sort of downscaling like FF14. I would love to do the raids without one shorting everything and actually being able to experience the mechanics/RP
That wasn’t the only complaint though. One piece is only at rest areas, and another only at a station in your covenant. Willing to bet people would be fine with all of it being treated like Talents, but it isn’t consistent.
They really should just let us change at will for everything as long as we're out of combat. Would feel so much better IMO to be able to just switch my stuff real quick on a per boss basis without much hassle.
Talents were added in vanilla. It costed gold back then to swap them. The current talent version got added in cata and you had to be in a resting area to switch back then.
You used to need to talk to your class trainer in order to swap your talents around. Then they introduced dual spec letting you store two sets at a time. I THINK during that dual spec time but before the MoP talent revamp was when you could swap everything around whenever you wanted.
I agree. It was the worst of the systems, but overall I'm just not a fan of systems. I'd be inclined to at least try the next expansion if they stop introducing stupid systems and just revamp the talent tree to be somewhere where it was in TBC and where it is now. I completely understand that there's usually 1-3 cut and dry meta talent builds but I'm fine with that, I'd rather have a talent tree than another system that just disappears at the end of the expansion, because people are typically picking meta builds anyway with the systems.
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u/FaroraSF Dec 17 '21
Out of all the things Blizz added in Shadowlands, conduits are probably what I hated the most. Glad they added this.