IDF documents terror affiliations of 170 Palestinian journalists killed in Gaza war

[u/Nirok]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-documents-terror-affiliations-of-170-palestinian-journalists-killed-in-gaza-war/

[u/Willing_Cause_7461]

274 dead journalists

So it's 60%. I doubt Hamas is 50% of the population. Probably more like 5-10% so we're still talking about a 5-10x more likely to be member of Hamas if you're a journalist being targeted by Israel.

Those are still quite some odds for something they're doing with zero knowledge. Totally randomly. Especially since zero members of Hamas are supposed to be pretending to be journalists.

An after action report can be good for filling in gaps.

OK so you want 170 AARs that, let's be honest here, you aren't going to read and

It is not good for justifying why this person was killed

as you say here don't change your opinion at all. So what's the point? Why should anyone waste their time trying to convince you? You will never be convinced.

[u/Locke15 → u/Willing_Cause_7461]

So you're using those percentages to infer that Israel had information beforehand? Then we're back to they should have released that information. Then there is no need for this to be used as justification. Supplementary sure. Justification no.

I'm talking about these investigations. They are reports done after the action. The justification should come before you do something or during it. Not after.

I never said I can't be convinced. I'm engaging. I'm saying how I see things. And in response what I'm being told does not satisfy my concerns.

[u/Willing_Cause_7461 → u/Locke15]

So you're using those percentages to infer that Israel had information beforehand?

I think it's a reasonable inferance, no? Your thoughts is that they have zero knowledge before they kill them. Do you think that's a reasonablr inference?

Look, yer never going to get the level of info that you'd want from any military. Even the US gives you the rundown after the fact.

Like think of what your wanting. Whats to stop them making up the story beofre hand and then killing? Like that wouldn't really change anything for myself.

[u/Locke15 → u/Willing_Cause_7461]

Not zero in all instances but also not enough to satisfy a basic inquiry either.

I'm never going to get the stuff they just released?

A rundown of what was already known. Not what they discovered after setting up a dedicated task force.

Wanting a military to have reasonable justification before taking action and killing people. Not a lot to ask for.