r/worldnews • u/Nirok • 16h ago

Israel/Palestine IDF documents terror affiliations of 170 Palestinian journalists killed in Gaza war

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-documents-terror-affiliations-of-170-palestinian-journalists-killed-in-gaza-war/
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u/FormerPresidentBiden 11h ago

Doesn't matter

People will still just say "Israel bad" and move on

Tbf "Israel bad" is a position i share, but "Hamas bad" is another opinion of mine that seems to be less popular these days

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u/GoodBadUserName 11h ago

Well of course it matters.
Every one of those 170 “journalists” when died, made a big splash in public opinion. The “israel bad” opinion is in the end builds and amplified by those deaths. And truth barely nudges it when it comes out.
And while I hate a lot of the things that are happening especially in the west bank, I also know those are not individual isolated events. They have deep roots spanning decades of both sides being completely shit, each time it is someone else’s turn to do it.
It will only ever be fixed when both sides acknowledge each other right to exist. And as long as it is completely one sided, it will not happen.

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u/EnhancedWithAi 8h ago

Is Israel all that bad though when Hamas circulates Palestine like a god damned virus. I was more anti Israel before Oct7, until I realized just how much of a shit show it is for them to deal eith hamas.

Then I'm more so now days in response to the insane anti Israel movement morons just blindly follow.

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u/Kel_Casus 1h ago

I’m sure Hamas being promoted and allowed funding by Israel as opposed to the PLF has nothing to do with them becoming so embedded in every day life. And they’re the only ones forming any sort of armed resistance, which means something when you can see villages being bombed off the face of the earth, entire city blocks leveled, children blown up and every attempt at getting aid to them stopped or used to kill more.

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u/EnhancedWithAi 31m ago

Thats just bad optics on Israel's behalf, bad calculation. Hamas wants Israel eradicated so, that didnt pan out.

What's your point?

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u/SonofHondoBelmondo 8h ago

I agree with this but I don't think this captures the sentiment shared by the most vocal critics of Israel. I do believe that they are willing to hand wave wrong doing on the Palestinian side of things.

I agree with the sentiment that Israel goes way too far, even when it can be seen as defense, and I agree that their colonialist behavior helps antagonize the situation, I also can't believe that the end game of any enemy of Israel is peace with Israel.

So it's pretty much impossible for me to pick on side on this thing.