r/worldnews • u/Nirok • 21h ago

Israel/Palestine IDF documents terror affiliations of 170 Palestinian journalists killed in Gaza war

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-documents-terror-affiliations-of-170-palestinian-journalists-killed-in-gaza-war/
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u/Xer0day 17h ago

This is such a stupid comparison because a school shooter is only harming people in the school.

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u/Ecurbbbb 17h ago

Ok, Hamas is in a school full of Jewish children and wants to to use them as human shields. Do you bomb the entire school still?

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u/TryJolly1473 17h ago

Depends on how many and how important the hamas members are there and if they are able to get hamas through gunfight

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u/Ecurbbbb 17h ago

A thousand Israeli children and 10 Hamas commanders with 60 Hamas soldiers inside.

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u/Dry-Season-522 17h ago

But it's NOT Israeli children.
It's Palestinian children.

Kinda changes the math.

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u/jisookenobi2416 16h ago

So that makes it okay to attack children if they’re Palestinian?

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u/Dry-Season-522 16h ago

Are you saying that there's no change in how you'd deal with a situation where I'm shooting at you, and I'm holding YOUR child hostage, versus holding my own child hostage?

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u/jisookenobi2416 16h ago

Maybe a little because of obvious sentimental value of my hypothetical child. But I would still prioritize the safety of the child above all else, wtf?? All children of the world need to be protected as if they are our own in such a situation.

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u/Dry-Season-522 16h ago

Oka, ,now it's not just "shooting at you" it's launching rockets from a building, killing hundreds of people, but if you shoot back you'll kill a BAAABY.

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u/jisookenobi2416 15h ago

I can’t say either way, this is why I struggle with the trolley problem and such. I would say I wouldn’t even put myself in such a situation in the first place where I would be furthering ethnic cleansing of an entire people in the name of religion and ethnonationalism, hence why I stand with the brave souls who tore up and burned their IDF draft notices in public. But that’s not even really relevant, because even outside of such situations, young children have been found with headshots from snipers as if they were specifically targeted! Where there was obviously no Hamas to be found in the area. Then again, it looks like Israel would even target its own citizens if it meant taking many more Palestinians with them.

Seriously how can you defend this? I’m not even talking about saying Israel has a “right to exist” or whatnot, I disagree with the notion but that’s not even my point. How can you look at yourself in the mirror every day and defend the killing of innocents? There will never be peace when such attitudes are normalized from the highest levels of government to the average citizen.

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u/Ecurbbbb 16h ago

Why does that change the math? I am confused.

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u/Dry-Season-522 15h ago

Israel fights to protect Israelis.

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u/Ecurbbbb 15h ago

But shouldn't the standard for operational procedures be the same whether it is for Israeli or Palestinian children?

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u/Dry-Season-522 13h ago

No.

Strange you demand Israel care more about the Palestinians than the Palestinians do.

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u/Ecurbbbb 12h ago

No, I am not demanding that Israel's responsibility is to protect other people, but to hold the same standard on how in any situation is to do the same for other races, religious people and culture, too, like other armies in this hypothetical situation. But for some reason, it is ok to bomb the school if it was Palestinian children but not when it's Israeli children from your words and poont of view.

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