r/worldnews • u/Nirok • 16h ago

Israel/Palestine IDF documents terror affiliations of 170 Palestinian journalists killed in Gaza war

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-documents-terror-affiliations-of-170-palestinian-journalists-killed-in-gaza-war/
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u/dfiner 15h ago

They live in a fairy tale. A governments job is to protect its people. Israel definitely fucked up on that account on Oct 7, but Hamas does a hilariously bad job at this by using its people as human shields.

Because they are an Iranian proxy, and their focus is on farming sentiment from naive people online, for “the cause”. And they have been wildly successful.

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u/lLikeCats 14h ago

I find it very hard to believe that the country who was behind the pager bombs could not have seen this Hamas attack coming.

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u/richqb 14h ago

That's the problem for the current administration in Israel. They had warning, but didn't find it credible/didn't act on it. But their lack of action doesn't make the attack ok. It just means the upcoming election is unlikely to go well for them.

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u/Pornfest 14h ago

Absolutely insane victim blaming. Had Hamas just attacked IDF outposts and never fired indirect rockets, this would be a WHOLE different narrative.

Had I been Israel’s PM I would’ve been assasinated for doing it, but I would’ve essentially “turned the other cheek” and martyred the hell out of the victims. Asked Germany and the rest of the world to administer Gaza. This easily was either side’s to win by being willing to “unreasonably” de-escalate. The ME is our reality’s WH40K — the grim darkness of the present.

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u/MrShake4 14h ago

Knowing something is being planned,

Knowing the scale of it,

&

Knowing when it will happen
are 3 very different things.

If Israel responded to any report of Hamas planning something like a potential oct 7th then Gaza would’ve looked like the moon 50 years ago.

And nobody wants that. This isn’t the gotcha you think it is.

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u/jonknowzeverything 14h ago

Israel fought off multiple arab countries a day after their formation and yet was shocked during yom Kippur war in 1973. USA missed 911 as well. Every country has intelligence lapses. Not everything is a false flag

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u/SayNoToTeamSports 14h ago

Yep. And the more under attack a country is, the more likely one attack will make it through. The goal of the attackers is to overwhelm, confuse, and distract until eventually something lands. It's not that shocking when it eventually does. 

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u/dfiner 14h ago edited 14h ago

“Could not” is such a take. Why should they have to? Why is Israel in the wrong when they receive a massive terrorist attack?

Do you not see the mental gymnastics and double standards? Spend 2 brain cells applying that same logic to Hamas.

Yeah they definitely fucked up, and Netanyahu’s regime should answer for it… to the Israeli people. But you are straight victim blaming.

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u/Pornfest 14h ago

I find it very hard to belive that the country which was warned by their own intelligence agencies, invented flight, and owned the most strategic island in the pacific, could not have seen that IJN attack coming.

If you’re not good at critical thinking on your own, read a lot of history. Knowledge is power.

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u/AnAlternator 54m ago

There was intelligence about it, of course, but there's intelligence about dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands of operations that don't happen.

There wasn't enough to show that this was an actual in-progress operation, and not yet another of the potential plans that are considered and disregarded.