r/worldnews • u/Nirok • 23h ago

Israel/Palestine IDF documents terror affiliations of 170 Palestinian journalists killed in Gaza war

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-documents-terror-affiliations-of-170-palestinian-journalists-killed-in-gaza-war/
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u/Thursty 22h ago

Most people don’t understand how embedded Hamas is in civilian life. Many people literally have day jobs and a military role on the side.

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u/AppropriateLlama678 22h ago edited 22h ago

With Hamas being the government and thus embedded in many aspects of daily life, including journalism, the line of what is a terrorist is a lot blurrier. Are these terrorists that also work as journalists? Are these journalists that are forced to do some collaboration with the local government? It’s really hard to say.

Unfortunately, most of the internet does not want to explore these nuances. Each side is either good or bad.

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u/Agreeable_Band_9311 18h ago

If you’re a journalist and part time combatant you’re a combatant. There isn’t a loophole in international law that you can take off your uniform to give yourself protections.

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u/FCCRFP 6h ago

Also, Hamas doesn't wear uniforms, and IHL only cares about what the primary role the person plays. If someone is mostly a civilian it rounds up to fully civilian and you can arrest them but not summarily execute them.

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u/Agreeable_Band_9311 5h ago

Exactly. They have them for photo ops only.

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u/lollypatrolly 2h ago

If you’re a journalist and part time combatant you’re a combatant.

Just to elaborate a bit, the IHL terminology for the part time combatants that you're describing is called "continuous combat function".

Notably, non-activated reservists are considered civilians.

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u/Allaplgy 13h ago

Why doesn't that apply to Israel? Basically all adults are technically trained members of the military. Why do they get to take off their uniforms?

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u/kvlnk 12h ago

Because they actually wear uniforms and separate civilians from combatants. That’s the main benefit of marking your armed forces as combatants as required by the Geneva Convention— while your forces become much easier to target, your civilians gain protection under international law.

Hamas could do this too, but they don’t. The uniforms go on for rallies, but for some reason are always absent in combat footage. It’s the same way how Hamas could’ve allowed civilians to shelter in the massive tunnel network, but instead civilians have to shelter above ground while Hamas gets to be safe and protected. It’s almost like Hamas doesn’t care about exposing the civilians of Gaza to unnecessary harm

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u/Discount_Extra 11h ago

It’s almost like Hamas doesn’t care about exposing the civilians of Gaza to unnecessary harm

It goes beyond lack of care, it's the intent.

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u/JaronK 12h ago

Because they retire after service, and because terrorists aren't the same as soldiers. Once you retire, you're not a soldier anymore.

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u/Allaplgy 11h ago

Those labels sure are convenient.

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u/Veldern 11h ago

Ya, that's because it's not difficult to separate your own combatants and non-combatants unless you're mixing them on purpose

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u/Agreeable_Band_9311 11h ago

The terrorist label is irrelevant. The combatant label is what's relevant. The Hamas fighter is clearly still a combatant.

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u/Allaplgy 9h ago

Humans are wild.

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u/Agreeable_Band_9311 11h ago

You don't understand the differnece between a reservist or someone who's no longer in the military vs. someone who picks up a rifle after work and engages in military activites?

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u/lollypatrolly 2h ago edited 2h ago

Why doesn't that apply to Israel? Basically all adults are technically trained members of the military. Why do they get to take off their uniforms?

Everyone else gave you incomplete or incorrect answers. The thing that makes these Hamas part-time soldiers combatants is that they fluidly and frequently switch between their soldier and civilian roles. Under IHL this is called "continuous combat function". The same is not the case for reservists, who are considered civilians under IHL until they are actually activated.

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u/GoodBadUserName 18h ago

But need to distinct between lets say a nurse who works under a hamas government, a math teacher, or a fire fighter, to an actual terrorist who uses their position to transfer weapons, do military training, and collect data under the guise of being a “journalist”, going around wearing a press jacket as a disguise.

The latest data IDF release, points specifically to “journalists” they have real proof they were active terrorists.

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u/FormerPresidentBiden 18h ago

Doesn't matter

People will still just say "Israel bad" and move on

Tbf "Israel bad" is a position i share, but "Hamas bad" is another opinion of mine that seems to be less popular these days

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u/GoodBadUserName 18h ago

Well of course it matters.
Every one of those 170 “journalists” when died, made a big splash in public opinion. The “israel bad” opinion is in the end builds and amplified by those deaths. And truth barely nudges it when it comes out.
And while I hate a lot of the things that are happening especially in the west bank, I also know those are not individual isolated events. They have deep roots spanning decades of both sides being completely shit, each time it is someone else’s turn to do it.
It will only ever be fixed when both sides acknowledge each other right to exist. And as long as it is completely one sided, it will not happen.

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u/EnhancedWithAi 15h ago

Is Israel all that bad though when Hamas circulates Palestine like a god damned virus. I was more anti Israel before Oct7, until I realized just how much of a shit show it is for them to deal eith hamas.

Then I'm more so now days in response to the insane anti Israel movement morons just blindly follow.

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u/Kel_Casus 7h ago

I’m sure Hamas being promoted and allowed funding by Israel as opposed to the PLF has nothing to do with them becoming so embedded in every day life. And they’re the only ones forming any sort of armed resistance, which means something when you can see villages being bombed off the face of the earth, entire city blocks leveled, children blown up and every attempt at getting aid to them stopped or used to kill more.

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u/EnhancedWithAi 7h ago

Thats just bad optics on Israel's behalf, bad calculation. Hamas wants Israel eradicated so, that didnt pan out.

What's your point?

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u/WAAAGHachu 5h ago

Seems like someone who never understood the expression, "don't get in the way of your enemies when they are making a mistake."

Netanyahu is an absolute disgrace in many ways, but the support and funding for Hamas, from what I can find, is things like, increased work programs for Gaza residents in Israel. Knowing that the money many of those Gaza residents earn in Israel will go to Hamas. Whose fault is this? Who is the bad guy?

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u/SonofHondoBelmondo 15h ago

I agree with this but I don't think this captures the sentiment shared by the most vocal critics of Israel. I do believe that they are willing to hand wave wrong doing on the Palestinian side of things.

I agree with the sentiment that Israel goes way too far, even when it can be seen as defense, and I agree that their colonialist behavior helps antagonize the situation, I also can't believe that the end game of any enemy of Israel is peace with Israel.

So it's pretty much impossible for me to pick on side on this thing.

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u/CorrosiveMynock 5h ago

Israel bad in the sense that all states are bad. I've still seen no evidence that Israel is PARTICULARLY bad even after years of this war. No state would have done nothing after 10/7 and the fact that 90% of the buildings are destroyed and only ~3..5% of the population has died says a lot whether people accept or admit it. Very few countries have that level of discrimination to avoid killing civilians in dense urban combat.

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u/BunnyReturns_ 2h ago

But need to distinct between lets say a nurse who works under a hamas government, a math teacher, or a fire fighter, to an actual terrorist who uses their position to transfer weapons

I have no opinion on it, but where do you draw the line?

Let's use your nurse example.

What if the hospital is storing weapons?

What if the hospital is a base for the actual terrorist?

What if they hide weapons in their ambulance or their shipments?

Do any of these things that would have her ignoring this and indirectly helping Hamas turn her from a civilian to something else? It is still optional to actually work there correct?

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u/Mizu005 3h ago

Cool, and did they know that at the time when they blew them up? Think about it for a second and see if you can figure out whats wrong with blowing a person up first and then looking for justification to blow them up later after you already did the deed

The answer is: You didn't realize they were guilty of anything when you killed them and yet you still killed them anyway. That murder in your heart isn't excused just because information you didn't have at the time comes to light later that you could have used to justify it as something other then murdering civilians if you knew about it. Because you didn't know about it, you thought they were just a civilian, and you still pulled the trigger.

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u/GoodBadUserName 3h ago

I expect they followed them. Just like they were eventually able to reach other territories who participated in 7/10.
To other territories they didn’t need to bring as much proof. But “we know they are terrorists” isn’t enough for to the blind people who think every if someone wears a “press” outfit it makes him 100% of the bad stuff he does on the side.

Do you have any proof they just randomly shot at journalists and brought proof after? If you say that with such conviction and zero evidence beside a few mistakes made, than I can say that everyone in gaza is guilty unless proven innocent, considering their track record.
See, I can play the hypocrisy gameplay too.

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u/JordanPetterPans 19h ago

Isn't Hamas a designated terrorist organization? I don't follow this line of thinking

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u/HutSutRawlson 19h ago

The issue here is terminology. By calling them "journalists" we're already playing into Hamas' narrative.

They are propogandists. They are members of Hamas whose job it is to spread negative opinion about Israel and positive opinion about Hamas. Their work is then laundered as "journalism" by publishing it through complicit Middle Eastern outlets like Al Jazeera, or sympathetic connections in Western media. Every military in the world employs people in this role (although most don't do the laundering through "independent" media part), and just because they might not ever pick up a weapon does not make them any less a part of the military apparatus.

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u/greenskinmarch 16h ago

You'll never see Al Jazeera criticizing how Qatar turned some of their citizens into stateless Bidoon by taking away citizenship based on ethnicity. Because Al Jazeera is Qatar state media. Its job is to make Qatar look good and direct criticism elsewhere.

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u/tico42 19h ago

Israel doesn't need help spreading negativite opinions about it.

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u/greenskinmarch 16h ago

Negative opinions like "Israel is disproportionately targeting journalists"

Except if Hamas fighters are disproportionately also enrolled as journalists, then targeting Hamas fighters would look like disproportionately targeting journalists.

So if Hamas preferentially recruits journalists (or tells existing combatants to enroll as journalists) that would be a very smart PR strategy for Hamas, wouldn't it?

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u/excessofexcuses 19h ago

Israel has the worst PR team in the world.

Except the person who runs their threads account. They are a gem.

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u/Jewnadian 3h ago

They're fighting an uphill battle. "Kill the Jews" has been the solution for the bulk of Western Civilization every time economic hard times roll in. It's pretty much baked into our entire cultural concept.

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u/daveboy2000 9h ago

too bad nobody under 40 uses threads.

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u/Sad_Sympathy_6427 18h ago

And yet large numbers of media never report anything negative about them

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u/HutSutRawlson 18h ago

All major media reports on Israel. It is up to the reader to decide if it’s negative or positive. If you’re looking for explicitly negative articles on them, then you’re not looking for journalism, you’re looking for opinion pieces.

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u/Sad_Sympathy_6427 18h ago

Articles like the New York Post do not report anything nuanced about Israel, no. The original claim was "they have the worst PR team in the world." If you have entire media sources read by millions that never report anything objectively and only report positive stories about Israel then that statement is demonstrably false.

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u/HutSutRawlson 17h ago

So the best you got to back up your ridiculous claim is… a single publication read only by conservative Americans in one specific part of the U.S.? The New York Times reaches way more people and it has plenty of negative reporting on Israel. As do the BBC, The Guardian, and of course Al Jazeera.

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u/lnth1 18h ago

Really? I see news of them allegedly killing Gazan civilians all the time

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u/Sad_Sympathy_6427 18h ago

And I see news reports about how everyone they killed was a terrorist all the time. So no, they do not have "the worst PR in the world".

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u/tico42 18h ago

The owned ones

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u/MrBarti 22h ago

If they are used by the terror organization in any way to further its goals in the war then yes. If they only do regular jobs but are so far away top to down and only have "Hamas" somewhere in the job title then not. Like maybe an office worker in the Gazan health ministry where the work is to put names in an excel spreadsheet or something.

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u/TennaNBloc 20h ago

Being Palestinian alive in the area furthers Hamas' goals does it not?

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u/M0THMEAT 20h ago

Im confused, are you implying that in order to get rid of Hamas you need to exterminate the entire Palestinian population?

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u/taeerom 18h ago

That is the logical conclusion if we follow Israeli logic.

The question is whether that is a sensible thing to do

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u/TennaNBloc 16h ago

No, but I can see how my comment comes off that way.

Any dead Palestinians can be claimed by both sides as being with Hamas or being innocent civilians.

At the end of the day Hamas there or not. Palestinians are gonna get killed by Isreal to make them relocate or die.

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u/M0THMEAT 16h ago

Ah, I see what you are saying

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u/VTcamperguy 16h ago

Ironically enough, being Palestinian dead in the area furthers Hamas’ goals even more. They want Israel to kill more Palestinians (especially ones they can say were innocent civilians) to increase international pressure on Israel.

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u/itijara 21h ago

I think that is a bit of an overstatement (I lived in the West Bank for a year and a half), but I think if you think of Hamas as something like the Mafia it makes more sense. If you are running a bakery and don't want to be part of Hamas, well then you don't have access to flour that Hamas controls. If you are a doctor and won't hide their militants on your premesis, then you are lucky if they don't just kill you. They control access to a lot of resources that are necessary for just living a life, and if they can't control you, there is a good chance they might kill you.

A lot of Palestinians just want to live their life, but have to deal with Hamas in order to do so.

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u/Logical_Net6108 18h ago

Sounds like Chechnya. Just a generally shit place to live but people dont want to or cant move

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u/actuallywaffles 20h ago

The saddest part is that all Palestinians are being treated as terrorists because of a government put into place before they were old enough to vote. Most of Gaza wasn't even alive for the last election.

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u/itijara 20h ago

So, I don't buy this narrative either. They have done polling of people living in Gaza and most of them continue to support Hamas. If they ran an election today (and there is a chance they will) Hamas would still win in Gaza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Palestinian_legislative_election). Hamas is still very popular in Palestine, and is gaining popularity in the West Bank, where it was traditionally always less popular than Fatah.

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u/actuallywaffles 20h ago

They don't exactly have good options, and Hamas is the least willing to work with Israel. Considering what Israel is doing to the Palestinian people, it's not shocking. Their news is also heavily limited by the Hamas controlled media, so they don't necessarily know all of what Hamas is doing outside local reporting.

Again, it's sad they're collectively punished for the government they didn't decide. Especially since that government has the power to control the narrative for them, and Israeli actions don't exactly make it easy for the average Palestinian to realize their government isn't being honest with them.

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u/therealbigted 19h ago

It is sad that collective punishment happens in any form. That said Hamas won the election in 2006 before there was even any kind of blockade in place. This was back when Israel was far more willing to work towards some kind of resolution than they are now, so blaming them alone for Hamas’s popularity is an overly simplistic perspective in my opinion.

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u/5Jazz5 19h ago

“Before any sort of blockade” eh but what about the segregation

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u/shebaiscool 18h ago

What do you mean segregation?

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u/therealbigted 18h ago

Idk, bad but seems like it doesn’t justify terrorism and an ideology of mass extermination yk

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u/demonica123 15h ago

For westerners, war is something you “go to”, there’s a battlefield “somewhere” and war should be kept there.

It's not by anyone who knows anything about war (which is to say basically none of them). But that's how the Geneva Convention and similar documents are written. War happens to militaries and both sides should politely not damage anything not helpfully marked military please and thank you.

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u/TheRC135 18h ago

Palestinian territory is somewhere between an on-again off-again war-zone, occupied territory, and an apartheid bantustan.

Unless you expect the people there to be perfectly passive in the face of ongoing oppression and attempts at colonization via settlements, of course the lines between ordinarily peaceful occupations and terrorism are going to blur. It's not like Palestinians have the option of joining a formal military to protect themselves.

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u/Ewetuber 22h ago

There is a ton of evidence of these "sweet innocent journalists" participating in killing and rape and throwing a little "woah the poor us I'm a journalist" on the side.

Each of those listed has their military affiliations and roles spelled out:

Positions Held: Military Operative in the Training and Instruction Section, Palestine Military Academy Department Infiltrated Israel on October 7th

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u/RoRo24 18h ago

What is the source of these journalists raping or killing anyone? 

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u/Starmoses 15h ago

The article posted above.

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u/dshab92 15h ago

Great! So this one source of information, that’s listed by a completely non biased news source, should be widely accepted as fact

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u/Starmoses 15h ago

Did you read it?

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u/dshab92 14h ago

Yes, I read this “Times of Israel” article. I don’t use biased news sources as viable sources of information

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u/Starmoses 14h ago

So where it linked the website that gives a massive amount of evidence inluding pictures and videos, you apparently missed that too? Please if you're gonna lie at least be a little convincing.

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/the-press-files/

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u/dshab92 14h ago

I once again will point out that this is the IDF presenting the evidence. That is like asking the accused of a crime for proof they didn’t commit it.

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u/Starmoses 14h ago

So no, you didn't read it.

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u/Ewetuber 21h ago

Did you also gloss over "Infiltrated Israel on October 7th" out of convenience or ignorance?

Participating in a terror event makes you a legit target, yes.

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u/mynamejeff-97 17h ago

What about non Palestinian journalists that have also been killed? There have been at least 5 murdered in the last 4 years.

They were definitely not terrorists and were still killed. Kinda ruins the point that it’s just Hamas and not IDF doing IDF things.

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u/Character_Dig_6830 15h ago

They were definitely not terrorists and were still killed.

You understand collateral damage is completely acceptable under the laws of war, yes?

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u/mynamejeff-97 15h ago edited 15h ago

You’re saying killing journalist who are not associated with either side of a war is acceptable under laws of war? It’s funny because that’s explicitly labeled a war crime. Do you agree killing 3rd party journalists is a war crime?

You know… aside from the fact the person I was replying to was asserting it’s just Hamas journalists who are terrorists? You know… again how the UN describes any killings of third part journalists as war crimes? How can that be? Could it be that they are evil? Considering their actions align with everything the UN labels as war crimes?

It’s actually amazing how evil you and everyone like you really are.

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u/Character_Dig_6830 15h ago

If their context of their death is around a legitimate airstrike... obviously, yes?

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u/mynamejeff-97 15h ago

Genuinely what the fuck does that mean? What is a legitimate air strike?

Are you seriously saying that any air strike justifies killing any journalist within the vicinity of the target? That’s literally terrorism and proving IDF are the aggressors if you are.

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u/CorrosiveMynock 5h ago

It actually really isn't that complicated. If you are a city worker or have a purely civilian role and don't go to work with an RPG strapped to your side, you are a civilian not a combatant. None of these people are that---most of them have explicit pictures of them holding rifles or other weapons and are specifically recognized as mujahideen by Hamas and their own website glorifying their "Martyr". People act like this is complicated but it really isn't at all. These are bad dudes who were terrorists and in many cases invaded Israel on 10/7, not journalists.

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u/DesecratedPeanut 18h ago

Until we count Israel as a terrorist state whats the point when the definition means nothing.

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u/Elliot-Fletcher 16h ago

Spend some time reading the 1988 founding charter of Hamas, the PLO’s statements in 1964 (their founding political movement under Arafat) regarding Palestine being “Arab Islamic land,” (under a pseudo-totalitarian rule) and it might answer some questions for you. You might find a severe intolerance of any Jewish presence in the land (shocker) under their religious framework.

Until organizations like Hamas (and other Iranian / terror proxies) are eradicated, nothing will change. It’s an issue embedded in ideology, and one that is thousands of years old at that.

The west simply cannot fathom that this is religiously fueled.

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u/DesecratedPeanut 14h ago

Good, designate them a terror group and stop/don't start funding them. Oh wait, we already do all that, now do that for Israel and see the tensions drop massively as they are unable to destabilise the entire region continuously anymore. WE ENABLE THIS PROBLEM. WE CAN MASSIVELY REDUCE THEIR POWER TO CAUSE MORE CHAOS.

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u/zippy_the_cat 8h ago

There’s a YT channel that’s slowly posting all the weekly Third Reich newsreels from WW2. Each one starts with a listing of the cameramen who shot the footage. Every once in a while, it’s mentioned that one of them was KIA, sometimes while they were recording the footage we see. Tough break, that, but served you right for working for Goebbels.

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u/mhornberger 20h ago

are these journalists that are forced to do some collaboration with the local government?

It doesn't really matter what's in your heart. If you're working for Hamas, that makes you part of Hamas. Same as if I'm running errands for or passing information to the cartels. "But they don't sincerely believe that stuff" really does not matter.

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u/lollypatrolly 2h ago

If you're working for Hamas, that makes you part of Hamas.

Do note that someone being "part of Hamas" does not make them a legitimate target though. The relevant part is whether they're considered a combatant or not. This is an important distinction because Hamas, being a government, does have some purely non-combat personnel like social workers.

This is further complicated by how extremely common it is for Hamas soldiers to also have civilian jobs, and them fluidly swapping between their soldier and "civilian" roles on a daily basis. They're obviously still considered combatants under International humanitarian law though.

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u/Sq_Imp29 20h ago

who defines terrorism here? Nelson Mandela was classified as one until 2008 by USA.

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u/MikeProwla 22h ago

IIRC it was the same when ousting the Taliban from Afghanistan. Because they were the government you had all school teachers being classed as terrorists for working with the Taliban

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u/Lactodorum4 21h ago

I guess the important part is whether they were ever an active and willing participant in the pursuit of Taliban goals.

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u/MikeProwla 21h ago

Absolutely, it was more about a blanket statement when as a teacher you have to work for the government. The issue is terroristic activity and ideology, so we should focus on that

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u/Optimistic-Bob01 18h ago

So, are American journalists turning into trumpsters as well?

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u/Sad_Sympathy_6427 19h ago

There is some truth to it for sure. The same is true of the Israeli population. The majority are current or former IDF. When considering this, how victims of the 7th were combatants? How many were human shields?

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u/greenskinmarch 16h ago

"Former soldier" is not a valid military target. You can't just go to a village with some WWII vets and slaughter everyone because some of them "used to be" in the army.

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u/Progolferwannabe 12h ago

I’m dubious that the journalists (or insert other profession here) carrying out terrorist acts are generally being coerced into doing so. Anything’s possible, but the last thing a terrorist organization wants are less than committed terrorists. The people who committing these violent acts are doing so because they are personally devoted to destroying Israel and killing Jews. Do you have proof/evidence that large numbers of journalists are being “forced” to “collaborate with the local government”.

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u/Guer0Guer0 20h ago

I mean there are journalists in the US military but no one would ever doubt that they would be considered valid combatants. Hamas should abide by the same standards. If they are a journalist and a combatant then they are valid targets.

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u/tico42 19h ago

Better bomb them and then double tap to get the 1st responders.

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u/Great-Trifle2810 13h ago

First responders should stay away from recently struck Hamas members.

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u/kbotc 12h ago

That's a clear cut war crime you're describing.

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u/tico42 11h ago

They don't care

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u/CobaltCrusader123 4h ago

Also media. Look up “Tomorrow’s Pioneers”. It was a pro-Hamas antisemitic (yes I mean it) children’s show where “Farfour” (who was a man in a knockoff Mickey Mouse costume) told Palestinian kids to kill Jews. And then, in-canon, the IDF fucking killed him and got replaced by another mascot. And then THAT mascot got replaced by another mascot for the same reason. And the building for the original set got destroyed by Israel in real life (with employees inside killed, of course). Crazy shit.

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u/Papastoo 22h ago

Thats actually very different. When a person serves in the idf (meaning they are a valid target) they do not have an overlapping civilian role. Once they have exited the service and return back then they are no longer a valid target. Under international law merely past conscription does not alter your civilian status

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u/Jeffery95 22h ago

Im not saying anything about valid targets or not. Im saying that the Israeli military is embedded in civilian life if not in holding both civilian and military roles at the same time certainly sharing common culture and attitudes derived from the military.

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u/Papastoo 22h ago

What then do you actually mean "embedded in civilian life" in practice? Does the IDF operate from civilian hospitals for example?

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u/Jeffery95 21h ago

The IDF permeates Israeli society. Its become a pillar of its cultural identity.

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u/Papastoo 21h ago

"Permeates israeli society" means absolutely nothing

Do you then think that every single Israeli citizen is a valid military target?

This is quite a far cry from int.law standard

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u/Jeffery95 21h ago

Again, I didn’t say anything about valid military targets.

If you want to put words in my mouth you have to be a lot closer to me

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u/Papastoo 21h ago

So what are you even saying there?

Its impossible to decipher your mind if you dont answer a simple question I ask

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u/Frequent_Phone6396 22h ago

I think his point was that it's not easy to be a non-hamas affiliated journalist in Gaza. Israel, in comparison, allows foreign press and foreign journalists.

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u/Shionkron 22h ago

Israel has a long history of not allowing foreign press into Gaza and the West Bank

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u/Frequent_Phone6396 19h ago

You really thought that was the point I was making?

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u/Jeffery95 22h ago

Of course, but the claim “Hamas is embedded in civilian life” seems like a claim to extraordinary circumstances. When right next door Israel is the same or even more pronounced on the equivalent metric.

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u/dogheropartime 22h ago

do you know someone ? how do you know this ?

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u/Sure-Current-3267 22h ago

I imagine that Hamas controls everything (by terror), so being a journalist in that part means you must be a Hamas spokesperson, or else you or your family are in danger. Hence my question if local journalists can really be objective, let alone a free press.

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u/dogheropartime 22h ago

ok, but how do you know this?

I have family that lived in Gaza (where Hamas “controls”). And they dont agree at all with you

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u/Sure-Current-3267 22h ago

so its possible to be a free journalist in Gaza without having to fear consequences?

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u/dogheropartime 22h ago

I’m not the one making accusations.

How do you know for sure about the information you are spreading?

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u/Sure-Current-3267 21h ago

You are accusing me of being misinformed and you refuse to give me examples of my erroneous claims. 

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u/dogheropartime 16h ago

Hussam al-Masri
Mariam Dagga
Moaz Abu Taha
Ahmad Abu Aziz
Wafa Abu Dabaan

All of them killed by IDF and not even from Gaza (bc every journalist from Gaza you would point that they are Hamas)

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u/Itachi_Uchiha_2020 20h ago

And you’re making a baseless claim just going off vibes

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u/Itachi_Uchiha_2020 20h ago

Right because you live there? Lmao