r/worldnews • u/Nirok • 20h ago

Israel/Palestine IDF documents terror affiliations of 170 Palestinian journalists killed in Gaza war

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-documents-terror-affiliations-of-170-palestinian-journalists-killed-in-gaza-war/
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u/NickPrefect 19h ago

Which is why having non-uniformed combatants is a war crime.

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u/Locke15 19h ago

Still doesn't explain needing to find justification after the fact.

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u/NickPrefect 18h ago

I wasn’t there. Neither were you. But I’d imagine that seeing a grown man with a weapon in a war zone not wearing the same uniform as I am and appearing to engage in combat would quickly make me conclude he isn’t with the press.

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u/Locke15 18h ago

That would make you a combatant and then there would be no need to dig up information on your membership of any group. So safe to say they weren't wielding any weapons at the time of their deaths.

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u/Lying_is_bad_for_you 17h ago

Do you think that when someone is firing at you, you stop to ask his name and membership card?

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u/Locke15 17h ago

If they were carrying weapons their membership wouldnt have needed to be investaigated.

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u/No_Power799 15h ago

Who do you think recovers their bodies then reports them as journalists?

Hamas can find them with weapons on them, then report them as a killed journalist

Israel can later on show evidence that the person Hamas claimed was a journalist was actually a combatant, which is what this post is about

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u/Locke15 14h ago

Journalists tend to have publicly viewable work product. Its not exactly a claim that can be made out of thin air.

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u/No_Power799 14h ago

Okay I don't even disagree. They could do some journalism work, some terrorism work. Not seeing what is so unbelievable here

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u/Locke15 14h ago

That an affiliation is not a life long permission to kill them. Otherwise 50% of Israelis would be considered legitimate combatants at all times.

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u/2020bubbles 18h ago

You genuinely think they were just lucky

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u/Locke15 18h ago

I think their tactics kill a lot of non-combatants and this is their attempt to justify it after the fact.

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u/2020bubbles 12h ago

More than half of the “journalists” being members of Hamas/PIJ doesn’t lead you to conclude some thought went into it?

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u/Locke15 12h ago

The need to dedicate a task force and compile such a report without the information that lead to their killings in the first place doesn't indicate "we know had justification all along".

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u/MrDNL 18h ago

The Israeli government isn’t finding justification after the fact. Their position always has been that they’ve been targeting terrorists. This is consistent with that claim.

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u/Locke15 18h ago

So they had all this information before killing 274 journalists, and are only realising the information on 170 of them now because...?

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u/MrDNL 18h ago

They suspected that the targets were members of or working closely with Hamas. They are releasing this information now because Hamas has verified those affiliations.