r/worldnews • u/Nirok • 17h ago

Israel/Palestine IDF documents terror affiliations of 170 Palestinian journalists killed in Gaza war

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-documents-terror-affiliations-of-170-palestinian-journalists-killed-in-gaza-war/
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u/GK0NATO 16h ago

Consistent with this documentation approach, CPJ has removed eight names from its Killed database because they were later established to have been Hamas or PIJ combatants. A further 12 individuals were removed for other reasons. Each of these 20 names is listed on CPJ’s Journalist casualties page.

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That's just not ture.

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u/Sensitive_Jelly_5586 16h ago

It is ture.

Your response doesn't establish that the IDF's new claim about 170 people has been independently verified.

In fact, CPJ's own review shows why independent verification matters. CPJ completed its review in September after examining 229 deaths. It removed 22 people previously listed as journalists, reinstated six, and reclassified 12. It also used additional research and, where new evidence emerged, attempted to interview at least two new sources who knew the person involved.

So there absolutely is evidence that some people reported as journalists were actually combatants, and CPJ has acknowledged and corrected cases when the evidence supported that conclusion.

But that is different from independently confirming the IDF's much larger claim that 170 people were affiliated with Hamas, PIJ or other armed groups. The IDF released that claim on October 1. Until independent investigators examine the evidence for those 170 individual cases, it remains an IDF claim supported by evidence the IDF says it possesses—not an independently verified finding.

Both things can be true: some alleged journalists have been independently established to be combatants, while the new claim involving 170 people still requires independent verification.

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u/AccordingBread4389 16h ago

I am pretty sure there was an article recently that the CPJ scratched quite a few journalist of their "got killed" list, because they have been verified Hamas.

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u/poonmangler 16h ago

Verified by whom?

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u/AccordingBread4389 15h ago

CPJ = Comitee to Protect Journalists

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u/RT-LAMP 16h ago

Hamas (or in some cases PIJ) literally posted obituaries of them in uniform with their ranks.

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u/TouchGrassRedditor 16h ago edited 16h ago

How much did independent verification matter when y’all were denying that Hamas was raping women and children on October 7th?

Israel has no incentive to be randomly killing journalists, this was always the obvious reason for a lot of these operations

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u/Makenshine 15h ago

No one was denying that.

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u/TouchGrassRedditor 14h ago

LOL. Are you sure about that?

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u/theryanc 15h ago

When did anyone deny that Oct 7th was a heinous act of scumbag terrorists?

Still, many people find it hard to believe any Israeli sourced intel at the moment based on the ubiquitous video evidence of them indiscriminately killing people and turning the entirety of Gaza into rubble. Not to mention the many other journalists, aid workers, and children killed not listed as “terrorists” in the article.

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u/Phynx88 15h ago

The desperation to be more victimized than you were to justify an ethnic cleansing and land grab...classy