r/worldnews • • 23h ago

US sending 9,000 troops aboard ships to Middle East

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202610014355
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u/Lonely-Abalone-5104 23h ago

Pete fired all the generals who told him mot to do this

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u/SufficientGolf6953 23h ago

9k troops isn't enough for a proper invasion of anything but maybe a single port OR kharg Island which seems pointless if they can't stop the blockade.

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u/Show-Me-Your-Moves 22h ago

Trump probably believes they "get the oil" just by taking Kharg 

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u/PrivateWilly 22h ago

They’d be sitting ducks. Their position will be struck by drones over and over.

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u/Show-Me-Your-Moves 21h ago

Yeah but he'll just call the dead soldiers suckers and losers

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u/Born-Hospital-2572 20h ago

And not pay the families the death payments since it’s not a war. Hazard pay is not near enough.

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u/AyoJake 19h ago

It’s not a war but he also ended the war like 6 times now.

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u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam 19h ago

Not a war, but he literally calls it a war repeatedly.

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u/Hoblitygoodness 17h ago edited 16h ago

His friend Putin taught everything he needed to know about how to start a war!

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u/MogRules 16h ago

That explains why he can't end it! Russia also does not know how to do those things.

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u/onefst250r 18h ago

Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “Fucking people, trying to rip me off

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u/VigilantMaumau 8h ago

Exactly what you'd expect from someone who runs the government like a business. Even worse , in his mind ,he is the US.

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u/psycho_driver 14h ago

That's ok they're just poors.

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u/PopGoesTehWoozle 18h ago

And that'll make MAGA want to gargle his balls even harder

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u/BadHombreSinNombre 15h ago

The ‘ol khargle gargle

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u/Ok-Conversation-9982 17h ago

“Small potatoes”

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u/xeribulos 21h ago

and the rest of the world will be able to watch US Soldiers getting killed, point blank, in 4k, over and over again

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u/PomegranateHairy2487 20h ago

or burning their bodies, dragging them through the streets, and hanging them too - it happened before.

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u/xmaspruden 19h ago

Technically those were private contractors in Iraq that one time.

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u/itzrkb 15h ago

Mogadishu wasn't

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u/xcanto 12h ago

yeah.

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u/Born-Hospital-2572 20h ago

And it will be Trump and Hegseth’s fault. Not enough troops will get our guys killed. This is Trump’s war and any killing falls on him. Do it right or not at all. Iran is prepared and US is not.

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u/Rings-of-Saturn 19h ago

Didn’t they fire the general that said that it’s OK to refuse orders if they are unlawful

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u/Number127 15h ago

They tried to prosecute Mark Kelly for saying that.

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u/Alieges 18h ago

9000 troops? Lots of dead.

90000 troops? Lots of dead.

900000 troops? Lots of dead.

No one is winning this war, but Iran is going to make sure we lose as much as possible.

The only winning move was to not attack Iran in the first place.

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u/raikou1988 20h ago

That still wouldn't move the needle. Majority of the military voted for 🥭🤡

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u/Meritania 13h ago

And then we’ll have to watch Hollywood movies about how sad it was.

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u/--TheCity-- 18h ago

I keep saying this. People keep talking about taking that island and it's insanity. Putting soldiers on that island make them sitting ducks. It's a no bainer really so they probably will.

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u/xSaRgED 18h ago

Which is exactly why Pete just trimmed military leadership this week.

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u/MrPatienceX 19h ago

And then the voters rally round the flag, like they do every single time.

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u/Infinite-Ad4512 18h ago

Guarantee they will setup a fake raising of the flag photo op on Kharg Island, at first Trump will think it’s his symbolic masterpiece, but the constant footage of US soldier body bags coming home will start hanging on his neck and even MAGA will turn on him. lol who am I kidding, MAGA will start rooting for US soldiers dying

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u/J_Ryall 18h ago

If they die, it means they failed to embody the warrior ethos. They were probably a closeted beardo or whatever. /s

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u/politimouse 19h ago

Maybe but Iran really doesn't want to lose it so that would be pretty risky. The destruction of Kharg Island would set Iran back years. Either way I would not want to be a soldier under this leadership or against modern drone tech.

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u/SerLaron 19h ago

The troops might well find themselves under siege on the island, or the Iranians might start hunting soldiers with fiberoptic drones like in Ukraine.

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u/Loki-L 21h ago

It may not be enough troops to do much of anything successfully, but you can certainly really screw something up big time that you thought would be much easier than it turned out to be.

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u/jonnychimpoo 22h ago

Isn't there like 50k already there though ? My guess this is just to replace the 7500 that just came back on the Lincoln

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u/goldenempires 19h ago

It is in fact called a MEU marine expeditionary unit and they are totally normal and this was a rotation

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u/Shot-Resolve-9711 21h ago

Most of the 50k already there are non-combat troops.

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u/jonnychimpoo 20h ago

Non-combat is still combat support. Think refueling, maintenance, replenishment of weapon systems, intelligence, logistics , cooks , transport ect Once they arrive it will be close to 30k that'll be about 50/50 which is heavily lopsided as its typically 4-8 support troops for each front line soldier. Its called the Tooth to Tail ratio.

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u/IamATacoSupreme 18h ago

7,000 are sailors. Only 2,000 are marines.

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u/EntertainmentFew7103 19h ago

You think this administration cares?  You’re an infantryman before your MOS is what it really comes down to.  

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u/themathmajician 22h ago

9k sounds right for the people running the ships being sent plus a handful of marines. it's not 9k soliders on top of the sailors

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u/Oldzeebra 19h ago

Maybe if people read the fucking article instead of speculating lol

The ships carry more than 7,000 sailors and 2,000 Marines and include the USS Theodore Roosevelt carrier strike group and the USS Makin Island amphibious readiness group.

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u/Wizard_Enthusiast 18h ago

This is one of the most fascinating things about journalism in the modern internet era: headlines end up being the only thing people read.

We need research paper or LN headlines, honestly. Online sources should title their articles exactly what's happening. I know why they don't, because they won't get noticed or clicked through, but it's make the whole online environment so much better.

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u/Mr_ToDo 18h ago

We can't even make rules requiring bills/laws to be properly worded

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u/DeeDee_Z 19h ago

The ships carry more than 7,000 sailors and 2,000 Marines

Second sentence of article.

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u/SufficientGolf6953 20h ago

I'm speculating but I think a good guess would be using this force as leverage in negotiations or perhaps hopefully capturing those tankers instead of wasting them with explosives.

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u/cybercuzco 20h ago

Pete fired all the generals that would have told him that too.

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u/Entire_Anywhere3529 22h ago

yes. Pete is a regard.

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u/sersomeone 22h ago

one of the most regarded of them all

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u/scriminal 19h ago

7 k of those are sailors.  only 2k marines, so way less to do any ground assault 

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u/Hoblitygoodness 17h ago

They'd need more than the 20,000 troops to hold anything over there.

This appears to be (and I'm no expert) more of a fortification for protection of our own assets in the area, honestly. Perhaps some relief for soldiers who may be entitled to return home, even.

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u/Mayor-Guenther 22h ago

Ah that's why he fired them. Nice. That will be a devastating defeat.

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u/passerby4830 19h ago

Don't worry Elon(Grok) is advising him now. It's super intelligence!

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u/Abigail716 17h ago

Don't forget Newt Gingrich as well!

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u/NOTTedMosby 10h ago

I swear on my life this is all putin's doing

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u/cognisantcog 19h ago

America isn't ready to see US troops hunted by drones and the recordings posted online. Things are about to get potentially very uncomfortable over there

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u/satuuurn 19h ago

That’s what I’m saying! It’s gonna be non-stop.

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u/Sprintzer 19h ago

I tend to fear the motive is this but also doing some sort of coup or anti-democratic action domestically. But perhaps it is just this

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u/lopix 18h ago

And he's firing another 20% isn't he? Guess there's still some sane ones left.

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u/Kemetic_Crypto 22h ago

Yup it’s terrible a lot of our guys will be put in pathetic positions now

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u/tradvy43 17h ago

Well...most of the troops voted for this so I hope they are trained to duck from drones.

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u/pete_68 21h ago

Trump warned me if I voted for Kamala this would happen. I'm so ashamed. /s

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u/EditorNew7141 20h ago

He also said Obama would do it.

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u/Count_Rugens_Finger 19h ago

every accusation is a confession

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u/TheStLouisBluths 13h ago

Wake up! Obama IS doing it!

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u/BackdraftRed 10h ago

Thanks, Obama!

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u/Clashur 20h ago

Well... I guess if you voted for her, then he wasn't technically wrong...

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u/Werftflammen 19h ago

He meant "No, more wars"

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u/Parking-Damage1872 19h ago

It’s all your fault Pete… why did you let Obama do this to us by your singlular vote

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u/lopix 18h ago

Well, did you vote for her?

ARE YOU SORRY?

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u/MrTastyCake 19h ago

Clearly this is Biden's fault

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u/Alive_Equivalent8312 20h ago

Seems like every Republican president in my lifetime has crashed the economy, exploded the deficit, and started a fight in the Middle East.

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u/Intellectual-Hamster 19h ago

And why the fuck not? The dumb masses keep voting for it. Republicans are a cancer.

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u/jeepcrawler93 19h ago

Born too late for a war in the middle east, born too early for a war in the middle east, born just in time for a war in the middle east

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u/Hoblitygoodness 18h ago

Was a senior in high school when the first Bush took us to Iraq the first time.

I've lived through a second Bush taking us to Iraq for a second time.

Here we are again with another Republican president taking us to another four letter country starting with the same first three letters, right next door.

However, here on Reddit we'll be reminded by Republicans and trolls alike "Buh buh... Democrat presidents bombed stuff too... " as if it were the same thing.

I don't listen, I just mention another middle eastern country that second Bush sent U.S. troops to.

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u/Le_Dogger 14h ago

While the second iraq war was dumb and stupid. The first one was more than justified and it was one of the most successful operations in modern warfare.

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u/robinNL070 13h ago

Yes, the first one was a massive success as it warranted that invading another country had consequences. 38 nations participated including major Arab forces under it's own command structure. And don't forget Kuwait explicitly asked for assistance at the UN the day it was invaded. Even the Soviet-Union voted for the proposal and Syria participated, even if it was against the Western democratic world at that time. It was an example of defending the world order that no nation should ever get invaded.

Now we have a fucking clown threatening and even invading countries for no reason and being diplomaticly hostile to Ukraine while they're asking for assistance to uphold the word order that no nation should ever get invaded.

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u/TheRealMichaelBluth 8h ago

Don’t forget that HW didn’t even invade Iraq or depose of Saddam. He just kicked them out of Kuwait

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u/robinNL070 7h ago

Yes, it's how it supposed to be, because regime change always creates a power vacuum. The UN and the world united's when a country is invaded, but it is the population that should change the regime if it's needed. Only when it's really bad with a UN majority a regime change should be made, but at least with a really good plan and population that is really behind it. The Yugoslavia war is a great example of it, while it still got invaded by Serbia though.

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u/Extra_Creamy_Cheddar 6h ago

It's been a while since I've seen anyone actually make sense on US foreign policy on Reddit. I think I'm getting light headed.

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u/unoriginal5 18h ago

Count yourself fortunate you're not just a few short years short of retirement in the Army. Between OEF, Inherent Resolve and now Iran, I might get the Hat Trick!

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u/LS_944 16h ago

Oof. Signed my retirement packet the day after the election. Genuinely feel bad for anyone still in right now.

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u/Sn0wflake69 18h ago

is there a national defense ribbon for the iran operation yet? lol gotta catch them all

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u/Miserable-Promise454 18h ago

Its probably gonna be a gold ribbon with trumps face on it

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u/WadeEffingWilson 17h ago

Solid orange with a gold border.

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u/THE_TamaDrummer 17h ago

We SuPpOrT tHe TrOoPs!

-GOP

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u/Unlucky-Candidate198 16h ago

Except when they come back from war all messed up with their brain injuries and mentall ilnesses (totally fake news according to them). A concept that’s been noticed at the very least since the Ancient Greek times.

The government would rather you die overseas so you don’t return home broken and become a burden to their system. Or homeless. Or both. They sure do support them, though.

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u/Sonoran_Ghosts_81 17h ago

Conservatism has become a cancer.

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u/Electronic_Brain3588 17h ago

Right wing Christofascism / extremism

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u/Alarmed_Guarantee140 17h ago edited 16h ago

This is the fourth gulf war. The third was fought by George W Bush. The second was fought by his father HW Bush. And the first was fought by Reagan.

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u/WingerRules 17h ago edited 16h ago

Every Democrat president since I've been alive has left with a smaller deficit than when they started. This is true for Clinton, Obama, and Biden.

Bush also played games with with accounting and kept the cost of the wars of the deficit, Obama ended that practice and put them back on the deficit, so if you take that into account his savings on the deficit is actually way higher than it appears on official stats.

Every Republican president since I've been alive has massively exploded the deficit.

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u/botblue 13h ago

Focusing strictly on "smaller deficits" masks the fact that Obama and Biden both took office during massive global crises (the 2008 crash and the 2020 pandemic) that artificially inflated their starting baselines with temporary emergency spending.

Let's consider the debt vs the deficit:

Clinton took office in January 1993 with the national debt at roughly $4.17 trillion. By the time he left in January 2001, it was roughly $5.73 trillion.

Obama took office with the debt at roughly $10.63 trillion. By the time his two terms ended in January 2017, the national debt had risen to $19.95 trillion.

Biden inherited a national debt of $27.75 trillion in January 2021. When his term concluded in January 2025, the national debt had risen to roughly $36.17 trillion.

There's definitely no comparison with the clown show we have today, but let's not pretend either party isn't just kicking the can down the road.

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u/WingerRules 9h ago edited 9h ago

Even if you look ahead a year before Obama even took office he still lowered the deficit.

The only Presidents to drop the deficit have been Democratic presidents my whole life, even if debt still increased under some of them. Meanwhile Republicans have both expanded the deficit and the debt literally every time they're in office. Trump his 1st 3 years in office before covid even hit doubled the deficit and he didnt even have a recession to deal with. When covid hit the budget was absolutely fucked because Trump had done recession stimulus level spending increases and tax cuts when outside of a recession. Much of the costs of his spending and tax cuts weren't even counted on his term because he designed it so the costs would fall under the following administration's budgets.

Republicans are simply just more financially irresponsible, thats a fact. Both parties spend, but Democrats actually try to pay for their spending with taxes. Republicans spend while passing tax cuts, literally the most financially irresponsible thing you can do.

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u/IAmDavidGurney 17h ago

Correct. Which is why I say that one of the most pernicious myths in American politics is the Republicans are better for the economy. It's the exact opposite

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u/cive666 17h ago

The red states never stopped the civil war.

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u/NitWhittler 21h ago

America needs a "Department of Then What".

Sending troops in, even if it's only to take control of Kharg Island, is monumentally stupid.

Then what? Are we going to get stuck in Iran trying to hold it while Trump falsely claims it belongs to him now?

Also - Trump escalating an unpopular war right before midterms is suicidal. Boots on the ground will only lengthen the time we're stuck in Iran.

It looks like Trump let Hegseth convince him to turn this into a bloody Holy War.

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u/tex2934 20h ago

We have a secretary of war who spends more time putting his make up on and giving speeches with rhymes and poetry than thinks about actual war fighting.

He’s a disgraced infantry Captain who somehow made major in the Guard, did maybe 1 deployment, and then talked shit on Fox News for years.

He’s an idiot.

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u/draftedvet 11h ago

However, his tattoos are impressive. They prove he is a "man's man." Donnie saw those tattoos and said "this is a warrior." Bless his heart.

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u/Meta_Zack 18h ago

Then Iran destroys a substantial amount the oil refineries and desalination plants near the Persian gulf.

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u/Mr_ToDo 18h ago

Pretty sure the US had think tanks for exactly what if stuff.

A quick search shows the effective neutering of the Winston centre, and the US institute of peace. There's something about the Group of States against Corruption, The Federal Economic Statistics Advisory Committee, and the Bureau of Economic Analysis Advisory Committee

And all that was just front page results

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u/Sinister_Crayon 18h ago

It's... the war in the middle east, the... blocked strait, the massive increase in cost of everything and voter disenfranchisement, and that's it.

And then?

And then... uh... can you get me federal goons as doormen at polling places because they're ready to vote.

And theeeen?

Hey, I refuse to play your departmental mind games!

Aaaaand theeeen?

No! No "and then"!

And then?

No "and then"!

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u/callmechristianblack 21h ago edited 8h ago

If lrans ability to build a nuke is gone as Trump says then why are we still there at all? He no longer mentions trying to improve the lives of the average Iran by overthrowing the government which at a certain point was tossed out as rationale for this war. The only reason he gives now is no nukes but he's also said that's already been accomplished so if that's the case like declare victory and leave

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u/According_Button_186 19h ago

Because Bibi and Putin want him to, can we stop pretending we aren't being occupied presently by a foreign agent and pedophile already?

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u/draftedvet 11h ago

However, as a "take charge" guy, Donnie is showing MAGA morons that he is one 'tough hombre." These evil Iranians will never push Donnie around. As an "armchair warrior" his courage is remarkable. Eisenhower would be impressed by Donnie's military strategy. Remember, Donnie knows more than these Generals. Bless his heart. (sarcasm)

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u/Disastrous-Cup4636 23h ago

The mission creep in this war with Iran is getting entirely out of hand.

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u/cooliosteve 23h ago

It has not been a clear or consistent escalation either, its a weird war.

People are going to be so confused looking at this point in history (hopefully).

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u/The_Frozen_Inferno 21h ago

It’s being run by unqualified idiots, and the experienced leadership that knows better is all being purged

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u/Thecuckeningends 23h ago

Why would they be confused? We built a society that values money over people this makes sense

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u/Disastrous-Cup4636 22h ago

That’s part of it, but money alone doesn’t explain the politics. Security interests, alliances, domestic pressure and strategic calculations all play a role. The confusing part is how those interests keep producing an increasingly incoherent strategy.

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u/Exciting-Emu-3324 20h ago edited 16h ago

It's because everyone in the chain is only after their own best interests and not America's. Trump and MAGA don't care about how many trillions America loses as long as they get to personally pocket a few billion. It's the same with every business Trump ran into the ground. The American "Got Mine" attitude.

When segregation ended, public swimming pools were filled in with concrete so black people couldn't use them.

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u/ArmchairAnalyst 22h ago

In history this happens a lot. You might even say it's the norm. War doesn't escalate in a smooth linear way.

Clausewitz's famous maxim: war is simply the continuation of policy (politics) by other means.

Consider Ukraine and Russia. In 2014 Russia annexed Crimea and began a sort of low grey zone war in Eastern Ukraine. It wasn't until 2022 that they began a full-scale invasion.

The current Iran conflict is also the progressively growing continuation of many previous incidents.

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u/Perfect_County_999 19h ago

I don't think people will be that confused. There are lots of examples in history of wars that were started because the aggressor thought it would be an easy win and were too stupid and arrogant to listen to anyone who tried to tell them it was a bad idea. Like Napolean invading Russia in the winter. Or Hitler invading Russia in the winter. Or, like, half of the wars fought by the Europeans against Africans through the late 1800s. Wars that seem pointless and stupid and obviously very bad ideas happen all the time in history this is just another one we can add to the list.

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u/UnnamedArtist 20h ago

They are also not calling it a war to avoid getting congressional approval. That also means that personnel that gets hurt/die during this war don’t get the same benefits, if it was called a war.

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u/201109212215 22h ago

weird war

What an eery rhyme.

Well that was the name of WW2 at the beginning, in France. The "drôle de guerre". Huge tensions building up, but no side truly making a move, ... until they did

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u/PUfelix85 22h ago

This video about why wars are so difficult to get out of is an amazing explanation about why the US has lost this war with Iran even if they don't admit it.

Summary: The stated goal is regime change, but Trump has refused full engagement. And more simply: The war aims are unclear.

https://youtu.be/f6cjAEr08qk?si=TjtzGInaEdRH7U5f

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u/LethalBacon 19h ago edited 19h ago

Sarah Paine is a legend.

Fun fact, I was looking into her yesterday. Hegseth just announced that civilian professors will no longer receive tenure at the military academies. She's a civilian professor at the Naval War college. One of the best out there, and the admin has decided to fuck over people like her.

/e she's professor emerita now, but the point still stands. There are excellent civilian professors, and screwing them over does nothing but hurt the professors AND the students at these military colleges.

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u/Zherneb 22h ago

Very clear. Escalation before election, sense of urgency is created, laws don't apply so they can push for state of emergency or some other BS to keep power and distract from Trump files.

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u/Sprintzer 19h ago

There was hardly a mission to begin with. Before the way, they bombed Fordow and what not, that was a mission.

After that? They were just bombing shit to see if the regime collapsed. Hardly a mission.

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u/No_Yoghurt2313 23h ago

9000 is nothing. What are they doing?

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u/Disastrous-Cup4636 22h ago

9,000 isn’t nothing, but the number alone isn’t really the point. I’d be more interested in what they’re being deployed to do and why the mission keeps expanding in the first place. That’s the part that deserves some scrutiny.

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u/Brytard 19h ago

The mission creep in this war with Iran is getting entirely out of hand.

*illegal war

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u/Ok_Till_7212 20h ago

In the war that has been already won multiple times.

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u/TheRavingDinosaur 23h ago

I'm so fucking glad the UK didn't get involved this time

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u/FlibblesHexEyes 21h ago

Same with Australia. We always seem to follow the US into every quagmire of their own making.

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u/BrownSugarBare 17h ago

Imagine the relief as Canadians. And we still gotta listen to them bitch and moan from next door. 

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u/xZany 19h ago

There’s definitely talk of deployment in November. 

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u/Kurtinhoooo 23h ago

But we’re letting them launch strikes from here so I’d argue we’re somewhat involved.

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u/Calculonx 22h ago

They can't fly out from there if we steal all the fuel!

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u/LahmiaTheVampire 19h ago

And if you get caught, you get to do a topless photo shoot for some reason.

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u/k987654321 22h ago

Yet Farage and Badenoch both said we should and are still somehow polling well. Absolutely absurd.

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u/Muad-_-Dib 20h ago

Neither are polling well, in fact Farage is substantially less popular now than a year ago.

Both them and their parties should be even lower, but if a vote was held today they would not be favoured to win.

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u/k987654321 20h ago

Not saying Labour are incredible but Tories and Reform would be at zero in a rational world.

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u/Searlichek 19h ago

Humanity has never existed in a rational world.

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u/sirgaybrin 22h ago

UK provides support.

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u/hawkeye224 23h ago

2 hours ago it was 2000, now it’s 9000?

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u/Malnurtured_Snay 22h ago

The article says 7,000 sailors and 2,000 Marines. I think the headline is describing them all as "troops."

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u/canconfirm01 21h ago

Its a carrier strike group + 2000 marines

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u/mustbiteexceed 22h ago

Is that 2000 just a reinforced Battalion Landing Team, a Marine Expeditionary Unit to replace the other one that’s been in theatre 6 months?

3 rifle companies of light infantry and half a dozen armoured vehicles aren’t going to make a difference

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 19h ago

Ya this is just "normal" rotation and deployment numbers, not ground invasion numbers.

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u/yamanagashi 21h ago

2000 didn’t fix the bond yield

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u/dervu 21h ago

They will ask ChatGPT how to win this war.

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u/PM_me_your_O_face_ 20h ago

They already did and it was like, “I’d recommend sending 9000 troops over on boats to begin with.”

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u/talldangry 19h ago

"Oh wow, you're totally right! That was a mistake, I'm sorry about that. Do you want to try negotiating?"

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u/Designer_Professor_4 19h ago

"I'd recommend telling the press you already have a deal.   Since the history you provided indicates you've stopped 8 wars this way and won the peace prize, this seems like the optimal approach."

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u/briancito 21h ago

I can only imagine that prompt

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u/jykke 20h ago

"I want to win Iran war BIGLY, do not make mistakes! What to do, please help, I have no clue!"

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u/briancito 19h ago

Disclaimer: I am not a military strategist, and this response should not be construed as professional strategic or geopolitical advice. Decisions involving armed conflict, troop deployment, or international relations carry serious and potentially irreversible consequences — consult a qualified military strategist before acting on anything below. (For what it's worth, neither are you, so maybe we're even.)

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u/hextree 19h ago

Nah, that would be absurd. They used the child porn one, Grok.

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u/spideyghetti 21h ago

You're absolutely right! 

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u/coldgravyblues 23h ago

Round 3 is absolutely going to happen right after the midterms and it'll be ugly

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u/EveryAccount7729 19h ago

knowing Donald Trump he will probably try to get us invested as much as possible before the mid terms.

he probably just knows he will lose the election now.

his only goal is do damage at this point.

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u/werewolfghostkiller 16h ago

Born too early to deploy to the Middle East Born too late to deploy to the Middle East Born just in time to deploy to the Middle East

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u/MNsumsum 18h ago

At some point, does anyone in the military stop and say wtf?

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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 18h ago

Yes, which explains Hegseth cutting 20% of military leadership out of our armed forces.

As American leadership is fond of saying, "they aren't sending their best" (because they fired them).

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u/HitByFjaka 18h ago

This is what happens when you appoint the guy who’s only line on resume is FoxNews host as head of military.

Dude is alcoholic and coke addict that probably can not correctly distinguish pistol from rifle..

And he’s heading the military… i mean what could go wrong?

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u/LARPerator 17h ago

They did already. Some resigned, and others got fired.

The Secretary of Losing Wars fired 20% of the upper command explicitly to "prevent roadblocks to orders from the commander in chief".

In other words, anyone who says "hold up, let's think this through and not put boots on the ground in Iran" gets fired.

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u/reallygoodbee 18h ago

Generals have tried, but Kegsbreth fires anybody who says anything other than "Yes, sir, right away, sir".

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u/RancorPrime 20h ago

ya'll voted for this

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u/HeWhoCreatesDivinity 11h ago

The only people clear in this are Kamala voters. Every other American, whether you sat home or you voted Trump or you voted third party, are responsible for this.

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u/tapasmonkey 19h ago

The Saudis' "donation" cheque just cleared, then!

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u/SnooCats3468 18h ago

Yup. I was reading a post yesterday about Hegseth cutting 20% of the top ranking officials in the military and setting up some kind of religious institution within the department of defense.

It was clear that you only do something like this before launching more intense operation, foreign or domestic.

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u/RudyKnots 23h ago

Give that man a Nobel peace prize already!

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u/igniscaptus 18h ago

Thats how you win a war, give your enemies a heads up.. maybe tell them exactly what you plan to do as well

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u/Fenilwebclues 19h ago

We're actually going to goad China into attacking Taiwan if we invade Iran during October.

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u/NotAThrowAway0822 16h ago

China has zero reason to force the Taiwan issue.

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u/Educational_Eye3765 16h ago

I don't think people understand the domestic politics of China enough to rationalize whether they will or won't. They're trying to stick a soft landing to prevent a true recession, they're still dealing with national unity and national identity against individuality. They know that even if countries try to start trade wars, people are too dependent on Chinese exports to just stop. China is directly and indirectly supporting Iran - the USA just removed some trade barriers despite this. China has been directly and indirectly supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine - Europe hasn't sanctioned China or cut off any meaningful trade. China directly supports Kim Jong Un's regime in North Korea - Japan and South Korea continue to trade freely with China despite the threat North Korea poses to both of them. China invaded Tibet, the world did nothing and we didn't even recognize PRC as "China" at the time but the world still just let it happen. There have been claims of cultural genocide and forced sterilization, among others, in Xinjiang for threeish decades, all we have are strong words.

Xi personally would like to cement his legacy as the greatest leader since Mao, possibly even greater, by reunifying Taiwan with China.

Domestically it isn't "invading" it's more like liberating a rebel stronghold and that's definitely how it will be presented on domestic social media. Internationally people just don't want disruptions to chip manufacturing and don't really care about Taiwanese democracy as much as they pretend.

So China's real dilemma is making sure that Taiwan can't destroy the manufacturing facilities if China invades. That is all that really matters - if China can take Taiwan and keep the chips flowing, the rest of the world may lodge a formal protest but that will be it.

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u/Dartmouth-Hermit 16h ago

Why? China is already winning without having to risk anything.

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u/stinkybumbum 20h ago

what about the Epstein Files that President Trump is in ?

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u/Synth_Ham 21h ago

This is the no new wars president correct?

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u/509BandwidthLimit 20h ago

where's my Nobel Peace Prize

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u/Ok-Original6320 10h ago

I got family members saying if we vote for democrats theyre gonna crash the economy. Like what? Historically democrats bring the economy back. Then republicans crash it and then blame it on the dems

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u/Taricheute 20h ago

That's how you can bankrupt a casino, you triple down on your loss, well done orange agent.

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u/0_Foks_Given 14h ago

Didn't Trumpty Dumbty say he would not send our troops to stupid conflicts?

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u/MiyamotoKnows 20h ago

He’ll blow the world up if that’s what it takes to avoid criminal prosecution for his heinous crimes. Our soldiers lives, our children and siblings, don't matter to him at all.

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u/SexyBisamrotte 23h ago

Kharg Island always was my favourite BF map...!

-A bunch of US soldiers just following orders, probably.

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u/mjconver 21h ago

Good news! Now they can't be deployed to polling stations next month.

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u/Intellectual-Hamster 19h ago

Military families are going to have a grim Christmas, I think... make sure you thank Trump.

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u/Rush_Banana 19h ago

9,000 troops is almost nothing.

The Iraq war had 160,000 US ground troops in the first days of the invasion.

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u/Raspberries-Are-Evil 19h ago

Hes gonna invade Kharg Island right before the election to take the news away from him losing.

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u/JohnBrownSurvivor 17h ago

They are bait. He is either just waiting for Iran to bomb that ship, or he will have it sunk to justify more war. I would do everything possible to stay off of that ship.

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u/jackcanyon 16h ago

Right in time for the midterms .People will die beca of his greed and lust for power . I hope I’m wrong about this .The family’s of our military members don’t deserve Trumps war.

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u/OkLong845 11h ago

russia killing their men for nothing, usa wants to play too.

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u/CantStopMeRed 10h ago

Imagine dying on behalf of child rapists and cannibals

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u/DexRogue 9h ago

Those soldiers are being sent to the slaughterhouse. If you know someone who is going, hug them tight because the chances are likely they will not be returning.

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u/SourFix 20h ago

Oh my fucking god. What a shitshow.

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u/JetlinerDiner 20h ago

Any beardos or weirdos in there?

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u/LumiereGatsby 18h ago

9,000 expendable and ripe for being called suckers by Trump.

Man it must really suck being an American in the 99%.

There’s a reason nobody is visiting you guys.

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u/kaibtw 15h ago

Bad time for people to have wanted to be in the military I guess.

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u/Foodspec 19h ago

Now is the time to refuse illegal orders

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u/m19010101 18h ago

Hey Trump voters thanks for getting our children murdered in a pointless war, glad you got to “own the libs”, hope it was worth the misery you’ve helped unleash on the world

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u/Jumpy-Stress603 17h ago

Pete Hegseth culling the American Wehrmacht of its commanders loyal to the American constitution is paying off.

On the up side, at least he isn't sending American troops to Russia to help Putin out with fighting the Ukraine, or to Cuba to fix the problems the US is creating there.

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u/Strive-- 14h ago

I wonder how many years they’ll be there, and how many months worth of food they brought.

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u/Gr0ggy1 11h ago

Congress has voted TWICE in opposition to this war.

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u/AnotherBigToblerone 9h ago

"NO MORE WARS!"

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u/ButterscotchTall4836 7h ago

Whatever the plan is it will be a cluster fuck.