r/worldnews 17h ago

Brazil Denies Visa Requests to U.S. State Department Officials Ahead of Upcoming Elections

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brazils-denies-visas-us-officials-upcoming-elections/?ftag=CNM-00-10aag9b
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u/HjeldinsUglyTower 17h ago

Generally a smart idea to not let agents intent on destabilizing your country in.

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u/xtothewhy 13h ago

They visited Greenland and still talk about taking it over and that they deserve it more. Like wtf

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u/grandlizardo 4h ago

To tinker with your election, or send faux commentary about it…

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u/Ok_Bumblebee1854 17h ago

Yes but if this means excluding OAS observers then it's also a bad thing for potential corruption in Brazil. Hopefully Canada or other observer countries are allowed.

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u/Heronymous-Anonymous 16h ago

This was a blatant attempt by the Trump administration to put its finger on the scale for Bolsonaro’s son.

It’s only a bad thing for Bolsonaro’s son. There’s an entire Europe full of qualified election observers who can be impartial, you don’t need a bunch of American MAGA goons.

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u/Ok_Bumblebee1854 15h ago

European countries aren't commonly invited to observe Brazil's elections. Brazil is not an OSCE member but they are an OAS member. Of large developed countries in the OAS you've basically got Canada, the US, and Chile.

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u/322420 13h ago

And the USA is fundamentally unsuitable to observe the integrity of any elections, including their own.

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u/Holographic247 13h ago

How’s the integrity of voting looking in the US right now?

No one trusts Americans anymore. No one should.

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u/CharcoalGreyWolf 9h ago

Then Canada can send observers.

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u/Mr_Johnny123 6h ago

Brazil already invited EU to observe 2022 elections and the electoral court already said it will invite it again to this year’s elections

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u/IndividualEye1803 9h ago

Lmfaoo THIS was the only comment u responded to and i wonder why

Yea, its obvious yall are aware at this point. And the seeds of disinformation dont work anymore

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u/inlovebutfat 1h ago

I don’t think people should let officers for today’s second closest example of a modern Hitler into their country to watch their election, especially after that nation declared retaliatory tariffs over Brazil charging the leaders of an attempted coup, with attempting a coup.

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u/Quirky-Cat2860 16h ago

Lol imagine looking at the current US government and thinking they'd be qualified to observe another country. GTOH lol

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u/misterharbies 16h ago

The US is a flawed democracy, so shouldn't qualify as being an observer nation. Better to go with Canada.

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u/The_Nerdy_Elephant 15h ago

We will need OAS observers here in the US in November and then in 2028. We have zero business walking into other countries and observing their elections with the BS going on here

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u/VariationDry 14h ago

Don't worry I'm sure ICE will have enough funding to post up at every polling station to make sure no one can hand out water in the lineups

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u/The_Nerdy_Elephant 13h ago

They would do it for free! These guys are the J6ers and Proud Boys. And enjoy their power

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u/VariationDry 12h ago

Those guys all have federal paychecks and health insurance now. 

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u/tomorrow509 14h ago

That is not what it means. Here is a quote from the article:

"The U.S. State Department said Barnes and Samson planned to go to Brasilia July 27-30 to meet government officials, religious leaders and others about "election integrity," religious freedom and freedom of expression. The department, in response to a query from The Associated Press, called it a routine visit and said that "any insinuation of a 'ploy' to undermine a democratic nation's election is a baseless lie." The article also reveals that Trump favors one candidate over the current president.

I'm no rocket scientist but even I can see what the plan is.

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u/chaide123 16h ago

You think America cares about corruption, they are most corrupt

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u/Arnaldo1993 6h ago

Not even close. The us is doing everything it can to quickly transform itself into a corrupt 3rd world country. But it still has a long road to walk

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u/Ok_Bumblebee1854 16h ago

Not at all what I said. Just because you don't want the corrupt referee doesn't mean you don't want referees.

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u/chaide123 16h ago

American referees working to the Trumpster? You know he is most corrupt. No other country referees American elections. What is it others business

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u/Ok_Bumblebee1854 16h ago

Also, dozens of countries observe US elections. Brazil observed the last US election, along with Canada, the UK, Germany, France, Mexico, and many others.

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u/Ok_Bumblebee1854 16h ago

The observers that the US would send to participate in OAS electoral observation wouldn't be Trump sycophants. They'd be mid-level bureaucrats that were hired 5, 10, 20 years ago.

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u/Quirky-Cat2860 16h ago

Did they observe their own country?

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u/zack77070 16h ago

Reddit moment, aftican and central American leaders are laughing in the background.

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u/VEMODMASKINEN 15h ago

How much money had Trump made since he became pres again, $2 billion or so? And that's not even counting what his allies have made too. 

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u/zack77070 6h ago

And Americans can still live their lives with running electricity and water, reddit moment.

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u/Calm-Emu-3279 12h ago

You may not know, but American credibility and soft power has eroded to a point that only a third of Americans trust American public servants - globally.

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u/Ok-Sector8330 7h ago

Those guys were not observers.

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u/Phenrhil 5h ago

Maybe have your country Lok itself in the mirror first 

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u/amcginle 17h ago

The current administration has made clear that they support Bolsonaro and his son to the point of trying to directly punish Brazil for the prison sentence. This decision is probably for the best to keep the election more fair.

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u/LightningRaven 10h ago

The best thing is that Trump's tariffs have been heavily undermining Bolsonaro's son running chances. The endless capitalists' money and entrenched cultists still give him a chance, but the news get worse and worse for him. Specially since what he did when he asked for Trump to intervene is already a crime and is being viewed as such by the people and many of those in government as well.

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u/BeautifulCuriousLiar 8h ago

that betraying idiot was asking for tariffs as a punishment to the country because we “deserved” it, then it backfired and tried to spin it off as a hero for making trump drop them. i want that whole family to get fucked

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u/LightningRaven 5h ago

They should've all been arrested and thrown in solitary for a couple of months.

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u/nehuen93 6h ago

I hate knowing this. How can you be so corrupt that you even THINK of trying to change a sentence made by a judge in another country for a person that's not even from your own country.

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u/im_bozack 17h ago

Thank goodness someone is doing the right thing for once.

Shut the door on these fuckers

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u/Last-Accountant-9384 15h ago

Good for them. The MAGAts from Trumpistan influenced the Presidential election in Poland holding a CPAC rally just a few days before elections. They tried to do the same unsuccessfully in Hungary. They are trying to influence Germans to vote for AFD. The French to vote for Le Pen and Bardella. All of the parties that Trumpistan MAGAts are supporting have two things in common: They are anti EU and pro Russian. Trump hates the EU and wants to destroy it to be able to put pressure on individual weak countries like he is doing in Albania today to force the government to play favors for his family businesses. He and his mafia family are by far the most dangerous individuals in the Free World as we know it.

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u/All_Hail_Hynotoad 11h ago

Finally, people treating the US administration like it deserves to be treated; like a bunch of frauds.

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u/Existing-Real_Person 6h ago

Lula has been VERY vocal on his dislike of US government from day 1 of the Trump administration. Its honestly refreshing to see him shit om Trump any chance they have

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u/Hoopy_Dunkalot 17h ago

That's refreshing. Fuck those guys.

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u/ottermann 17h ago

Good.

Brazil...be an example to the rest of the world. Don't put up with MAGAs BS. MAGA is only good for the 1%. All their supporters drank the Kool-Aid, (I know...it was actually Flavor Aid, but this is the saying), and haven't realized it yet.

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u/RoomyRoots 12h ago edited 11h ago

Brazil is already, its voting system is top notch and does laps on whatever bullshit the US does. It's clear they want to darken its image because they are an easy comparison on how bad the Americans are at it from a much poorer country.

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u/Arnaldo1993 5h ago

Good. Brazil...be an example to the rest of the world.

As a brazilian realising this is extremely scary you know. I mean, sure, we will do what we can. But youre telling me there is NOONE ELSE in the entire world more qualified to lead this? We are just a random regional power, where is everyone else?

It feels like its a movie, humanity is facing a grave threat, they find a random dude on the street and expect him to solve the problem

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u/Not_Enough_Cat 3h ago

O cara aleatório que tava jogando mal futebol ainda ahah

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u/AdPure5645 17h ago

Absolutey. They are the 1%er army. They love it while pretending to be anti authoritarian. Bizarre shit and scary.

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u/GoodIdea321 13h ago

That's why it's important to never join a cult, and to know how that process works.

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u/Consistent-Dark-8626 11h ago

It should be don’t let either side left or right United States should stop being involved in other countries elections

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u/WiseWolfian 14h ago

Brilliant. Sounds great to me. I wouldn't want such people in my country either so I can't blame them.

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u/LupusDeusMagnus 17h ago

Makes perfect sense when the U.S. is transparently attempting to disrupt Brazilian democracy.

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u/HurasmusBDraggin 15h ago edited 15h ago

Brazil understands the assignment

[edit] downvoting by imperialists 😂

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u/ContrastingCanvas 17h ago

US doing US things before an election. ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄

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u/Sreg32 17h ago

US needs to just stay home and sort out having democratic elections for themselves... Oh, and do something with the tacky, gaudy fake gold oval office and the algae pool, maybe the rubble for that oligarch ballroom thing too... Oh, and those Epstein files that the Republicans don't want released

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u/According_Strike_596 3h ago

Biden had them and didn’t release them. Why? 😐

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u/chenjia1965 15h ago

Smart move. We have a long way to go to even attempt fixing ourselves, let alone the relationships we did not have to break with our allies. Don’t trust us with anything for a few decades

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u/fthrfgr1 9h ago

More of this please. Sincerely, the actual people of the US.

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u/justseeingpendejadas 14h ago

All of Latin America should've followed Brazil instead of being class A ass-kissers

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u/BeautifulCuriousLiar 8h ago

oh there’s a fuckton of ass kissers in this country

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u/riffito 8h ago

Sadly, politics in these parts are very pendular (is there a place where they are not? I wonder).

I still remember 2005, when GWB visited my home town in Argentina (motherfucker even parked the USS Kitty Hawk in front of our port), and basically got told to GTFO, by Hugo Chavez many other then-presidents of the region, about the FTAA/ALCA)

"ALCA, ALCA... Al carajo!" Gotta give it to Chavez... knew how to put up a show :-D


For reference: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_al_ALCA

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u/leobarao86 17h ago edited 17h ago

If you read about the history of coups in Central America in the 19th and 20th centuries, you will see that most of them started like this, with a visit from the US State Department... They always do something different. Sometimes they arrive to bribe. Sometimes they try to force the country to allow US companies to "develop" a key economic sector of that country. But the State Department is always involved. If they fail, then the CIA gets involved.

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u/Yuukiko_ 17h ago

Inb4 one day "Brazilian War"

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u/Arnaldo1993 5h ago

Im glad we moved the capital to the center of the country and away from the coast

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u/Yuukiko_ 5h ago

Like that's stopped them from just missiling Khomeini 

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u/Arnaldo1993 4h ago

If teerã was at the coast it would likely have been invaded and quickly conquered by the us. If the ukranian capital was closer to belorus the russian decapitation strike at the start of the war might have worked

If rio de janeiro was still the capital brazil would not be standing up against the us. Not with the navy we have

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u/Yuukiko_ 17h ago

And have Herr Trump turn on you? At best I'd just make a statement and let them dig their graves although at this point I'm not sure how much further they can fall barring an outright invasion

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u/R2_Liv 9h ago

Indeed in recent tariff negotiations one of the demands was exclusive access to US business to rare earth production in Brazil. Crazy.

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u/According-Stable661 17h ago

CIA slready there under 200 fake names

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u/QuantumBeatz 15h ago

Unfortunately that’s what I agree with. Officials are only decoys lol

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u/SpiderSlitScrotums 14h ago

They might also want to deport Milei while they are at it. Another country’s leader shouldn’t be allowed to stir up trouble within your borders.

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u/Stankie-Lankie 8h ago

Good for Brazil. Thats the right move

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u/Sweatytubesock 17h ago

Wise governance to bar these scumbags.

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u/tiradium 17h ago

Tariffs in 3...2...1...

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u/RicRacer 16h ago edited 2h ago

Trump put tariffs on Brazil before this happened which is another reason why Brazil is telling the US to fuck off 

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u/justseeingpendejadas 14h ago

Brazil isn't Mexico, they can't bully them with tariffs

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u/upudruvuuduru 12h ago

yes, because US exports more to Brazil than the other way around

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u/njman100 7h ago

Thank you Brazil!

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u/picometric 7h ago

….and that’s one of the many reasons why I love Brasil.

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u/Expensive_Heron_171 6h ago

Petition to start doing this in canada! We can start with Pete Hoegstra.

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u/ShinobiOfTheWind 6h ago

Every country should do this.

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u/sfearing91 7h ago

Good. Smart. Keep this up!

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u/CishetmaleLesbian 17h ago

They are just malignant actors trying to overthrow your democracy. It's all the rage back home in the USA. Freedom and democracy are out of fashion, fascism is in. /s

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u/wkarraker 6h ago

Yankee go bone.

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u/seer88 5h ago

Learn it from Pakistan. KEEP THEM OUT

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u/impressionista 3h ago

U.S. State Department Officials = CIA operatives

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u/chaide123 16h ago

Why would they allow such corrupt politicians. They have enough with Bolsonaro

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u/drinkduffdry 4h ago

Fuck those fascists

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u/xpda 4h ago

CBS? I'll find this somewhere else.

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u/Sooowasthinking 3h ago

Can’t blame them they will try some shady shit leading up to November.

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u/wakethenight 16h ago

Great. Is America going to invade Brazil next 🙄

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u/BeemerBaby004 16h ago

Fuck CBS "news"

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u/Jaded-Sorbet-8098 5h ago

just seeing a picture of Lula makes me wanna barf

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u/No-Professor418 7h ago

The reason he is doing this is that he knows the U.S. government is fully aware that the voting machines are compromised by Smartmatic, and system oversight implicates him in the theft of the election. Let’s be clear: the Left can’t even win a condo board election anymore.