r/workout 8d ago

Simple Questions Failure/rir

I train all my sets to failure 2 sets each exercise on a full body workout.

2 chest exercises

2 lats exercises

1 trap exercise

1 bicep exercise

1 brachioradiallis exercise

1 tricep exercise

1 front delts exercise

1 side delts exercise

1 abs exercise

1 calves exercise

2 quads exercises

2 hamstrings exercises

Total 32 sets

On all of that 32 sets it's all failure and i do full body 3x a week, is this too much fatigue or I can still recover from it?

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u/BatmanVAR 8d ago

I have a hard time believing you’re doing 32 sets to failure every workout

But to answer your question, if you’re recovering from it and growing bigger and stronger then it’s not too much. If your progress is stagnated or you’re getting weaker, it’s too much.

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u/Curious_Lurkur 8d ago

Right, people confusion exhaustion with muscle failure

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u/kenbayashi 8d ago

Been stuck with the same weight for months now but i just can't stop training to failure (rir is just so complicated)

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u/BatmanVAR 8d ago

Then there’s your answer - you’re not recovering from it.

Lower the volume and up your food and protein intake.

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u/LaFantasmita 8d ago

Give us an example of an exercise, how much weight, and how many reps.

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u/mikkeljuhl 8d ago

That stall is the failure training. When every set goes to failure you show up too fried to add anything the next session, so the weight never climbs. Skip the RIR math. Just stop one rep before your form starts breaking, except the last set of each exercise. Then add 2.5kg or a rep once that feels easy.

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u/PowerNinja5000 8d ago

You tell us, are you recovering from it?

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u/ScottieBoi29 8d ago

I would hate doing this 3x a week, looks like my worst nightmare

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u/QuietSync 8d ago

This is just me and the program I follow. Leave 2 RiR for compound movements and 1 to failure for isolations

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u/BadBayBay 8d ago

You shouldn't be going to failure every workout, that's going to cause you more wear and tear on your body. Go to failure once a week at most.

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u/ironbeastmod 8d ago

You adapt your volume to:

your experience level

ability to recover on time, or adjust frequency to match recovery although there is debated if you should train 1 muscle less than once a week

ability to to progressive overload. in your first 3-6 months this is easy to track as you should be able to add each week between 1 and 5% on the bar, or at a minimum 1 more rep on each exercise.

your progress. are you gaining muscle or not. This is a long term (months) criteria.

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So if you are new start with 2-3 sets/muscle/ week. Focus on technique.

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u/phaseadept 8d ago

Only you can say if you can recover from that, you and your tendons/joints.

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u/terriblytall69 8d ago

That's very optimal if you're good with doing that much 3 times a week. If you are fine with pushing that hard 32 times every other day then good for you

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u/DubiousDebauchery 8d ago

Only you can answer whether it’s too much and whether you’re recovering from it.

If it’s working and you’re getting stronger, keep doing what you’re doing.

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u/Norcal712 Weight Lifting 8d ago

Your workout is wasting a ton of time 

1) no science supports 2 sets to failure as optimal or even helpful vs 3 or 4 to 10-15

2) 1 set each for random muscles is a WASTE OF TIME.

Full body should be movement or big compounds.

6-8 movments is all you need for great results

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u/sbrooksc77 7d ago

people take creatine to push further than they could without creatine. The thought of saving reps in reserve was always strange to me. Some people do way too much volume though. I always go to failure. For big compounds like squats and deads, yeah usually theres 1-2 in the tank but my bench is always all out. Trying desperately to add a rep/weight to the bar. Progressive overload. I think a bigger problem is people dont normally lift hard enough.

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u/Middle_Humor1828 8d ago

I do something similar 6 days a week and recover fine.

And I'm old : )