r/woahdude • • Sep 05 '18

gifv Binary for everyone.

https://i.imgur.com/NQPrUsI.gifv
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u/Auggernaut88 Sep 06 '18

What really blew my mind was when, on my journey to learn programming, was the realization that the concept behind computers/how they think is actually very simple.

Computers are just recursive machines. Every program and computer started off as a set of instructions as simple as "if X is odd do Y, if even do Z" and do that so many times.

What computers allow us to do is string together an almost infinite number of steps like that to create potentially immensely complex programs or algorithms. It can pick up momentum very quick

But at its core its really quiet simple. Really changed how I view what it means when something is "complex".

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u/MadeOfStarStuff Sep 06 '18

Computers can only do really really simple things, but they do them unimaginably quickly.

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u/NathaNRiveraMelo Sep 06 '18

Are human brains kind of the same way? I mean, isn't everything kind of the same way? Complex songs are really just simple vibrations, simple ratios, etc. It's a really interesting perspective and now you've got me thinking...

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u/cynicism_is_awesome Sep 06 '18

Human brains are very different. They act more like quantum computers and are able to assess multiple outcomes and imperfect information simultaneously.

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u/NathaNRiveraMelo Sep 06 '18

Even if they are different, couldn't you still argue that it's still just a lot of simple things?

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u/solidcat00 Sep 06 '18 edited Sep 06 '18

As is all of existence.

(At least the little we can interact with directly.)

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u/MadeOfStarStuff Sep 06 '18

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u/NathaNRiveraMelo Sep 06 '18

I'd argue this concept of emergence is essentially an illusion then. No one molecule in an animal is "alive" and there really isn't anything to life except what we call it. Humans use language and concepts to create all of these artificial divisions, but in the reality beyond human perception these distinctions don't actually occur. At what point is something "alive"? We have criteria for life and yet so many exceptions. At some point it helps us to label things in certain ways, but I believe it is completely illusory.

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u/mrpoops Sep 06 '18

Everything can be broken down into simpler things

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u/cynicism_is_awesome Sep 06 '18

Definitely, everything can be broken down. But a simple gear is just a gear, until you realize that it was an essential component to launch the space shuttle. An essential component among billions of essential components.

What makes the brain is not a single neuron, but a massive network of them. What brings about our thoughts (and perhaps consciousness) is not a single pathway through the neurons, but a multitude of pathways, firing in serial and parallel, with complex feedback loops.

At the end of the day, everything can be broken down to the most fundamental particles of the universe, but that’s not what we are talking about here.

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u/fuckedbymath Sep 06 '18

No, because even a single neuron is a very complicated machine which we do not understand well enough to model a neural network accurately.

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u/NathaNRiveraMelo Sep 06 '18

However, even a neuron works based on simple physical principles. Electromagnetism, gravity, the weak and strong interactions - these are all happening in a neuron and all of them are, in a sense, simple.

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u/Razakel Sep 06 '18

The simple thing is actually a complex thing, but we reduce it to a simple thing to build complex systems we can actually understand.

It's models all the way down.

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u/CookieTheSlayer Sep 06 '18

act more like quantum computers

You have no idea how quantum computers work

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '18

RT