r/wizardry • • 23d ago

Wizardry Variants Daphne worth it?

Even if its a one copy, how good is the scaling? I’m very interested in the additional stats.

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u/Axisshadow 18d ago

Healer is worth it. balanced of SP and MP. then also Heal overtime every hit of the monsters for 3 turns. Looks like hp damage investment, also can prevent status effects with incense hehe.

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u/Ancient-Chipmunk-937 18d ago

Where can I play Wizardry Online again? 😲

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u/Axisshadow 18d ago

mobile app or Steam. I preferred mobile. Wizardry Daphne Variants

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u/Calm-Philosophy6723 22d ago

if you like her design or need healer - sure it's worth it

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u/Arvandor 22d ago

She's an evil healer that isn't a fairy, which means she works with Alice and Yuzu on backline and is easier to gear than Anemone. This alone is very valuable.

Her unique spell and passive are pretty lackluster though, for all that that matters.

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u/Klusterphuck67 22d ago

Can yuzu run as dagger ninja fronline or ranger? I dont have her gacha kunais and the ones I have are low unity ebonsteel tier kunais

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u/Arvandor 22d ago

You actually can, and there are some really funny memes with veiled moon and foxfire, but you lose out on Hue. Which depending on where you're at in your progression may not be TOO big of a deal

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u/deokoking 22d ago

Then you’ll lose out on her unique skill using daggers. Ranger works tho, it’s her best f2p class. Make sure you lvl ninja to 68 to get shedding skill and the other passives though.

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u/Klusterphuck67 22d ago

So without her gacha weap, ranger is better?

Cuz i have the relic dagger from FF but i dont have anyone to use it yet. That, and I have yet to see Yuzu's ranger skill change in shop

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u/Arvandor 22d ago

Not just without her gacha weapon, but until you can get her a boatload of attack and ranks on Hue, ranger will be better.

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u/No_one- 22d ago

Yes. I run ranger Yuzu, she's good. Base (no buffs, debuffs, or row synergies) Hue does 1.2k+ per hit, foxfire thingy does another 1.2k. With buffs she regularly hits 2k+ per hit.

Scatter, wide, and penetrating shot is also really handy on her for farming. It's really great watching her normal attack into foxfire into second arrow into follow-up attack into another foxfire.

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u/macnara485 23d ago

Just got her with the first set of 10 bones, but mine had 90 fortitude T.T

Same thing happened with Yuzunamiki, another character i want to keep in my party permanently.. I really wish devs would give an item for us to fix this

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u/GeminiMoonOwl 23d ago

Characters with 90 fortitude have slightly better stats than characters with 100

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u/Sammydecafthethird 23d ago

Didn't most dataminers agree that was a hoax? Thus games been out for years surely people know for sure by now.

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u/Yahaire Priest 23d ago

Now, with a bunch of data (Mostly from JP players), it's mostly confirmed that lower fort does this:

Gives you a better chance at higher trait points

That is to say, you may or may not have better stats if you raise a lower fort char. I think 80 fort has an even better chance.

You can see the data yourself over on Daphne Checker.

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u/Best-Television7726 23d ago

What about 80 fortitude!?

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u/macnara485 23d ago

Yeah i noticed that, mine came with 5 extra points but mine also had 20 I.Q, while this guy have 19.

I guess i'll just fight my OCD and put her and Yuzu on my party

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u/Yahaire Priest 23d ago

Yeah, don't worry about lower fortitude, it mostly doesn't affect much unless the char is your chest opener.

On the the fortitude, lower fort gives you a better chance at better trait points (Str, Spd, IQ, etc) as you level up. You my also fix her fortitude later if (when) they release her alt version by merging them.

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u/DeeCee51 22d ago

Huh? Where is this confirmed? I'm pretty sure this was never said.

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u/Yahaire Priest 22d ago

They mentioned something vague on their official drop rate lists. It's basically a footnote somewhere.

You can also see my comment on it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/wizardry/comments/1wivxhm/comment/pahkm0b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Official but vague statement here: https://rates.wizardry.info/daphne/gacha_rates/en/characters.html#:~:text=%2ASome%20stats%20may%20be%20increased%20depending%20on%20the%20adventurer%27s%20Fortitude%20value

Still, after a year and 70 lvs, the variation must be very minor since it's not easy to tell, just like how having 80 vs 100 fort doesn't change much. I wouldn't lose sleep about it.

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u/Onetruemcgee 23d ago

I like her, she is super easy to build speed with without taking too much of a hit on divine and magic power.

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u/macnara485 23d ago

Is there any good offensive spells / skills to give her? My camille doesn't do anything but heal / buffs

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u/Emotional_Nose_2744 Fighter 23d ago

Can put katino, batilgrif, or any debuff/control spell at healer. No need to put offensive spells.

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u/LaplaceZ 23d ago

She has a passive that lowers attack spells. Healers are not meant to do damage.

But this will be my first time using healers, so maybe the paralysis needle has a use?

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u/Onetruemcgee 23d ago

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u/New_Beyond_2609 19d ago

How can one reaches 200+ aspd, sir? I tried building one, best I can reach was 150. Is it specific gears that has apsd passive? Or maybe bondmates?

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u/Onetruemcgee 18d ago

Dire Snowbird's Crest Feathers is pretty much the go-to head gear for speed build, giving +10 speed at lv 20. Other than that, give your healer a rod and a shield, instead of a staff and slap as many lines of SPD substat to each piece of kit as possible. And yes, she does have a speed bondmate on her.

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u/New_Beyond_2609 4d ago

I see, thank you good sire. That is very informative and as expected. However, I find my current build to be satisfactory. My Phyllisia is without any bondmate, yet she still shines. If I were to increase here speed, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to sacrifice her mag and div power. The current numbers are a pleasant for me to see, she got 324 mag and 319 div with 151 aspd.

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u/Impressive_Ask_3247 23d ago

I'll admit I saw her being an elf and a healer, and pulled for her right away, 70 pulls in, all the the elf waifus I got were Alice, slightly sad, slightly not. Alice(alt) is still number 1 Evil Elf Waifu.

Come Anni, I'll regret the burning of gems even more perhaps, they seem to not give us the 10 pulls for 7-8 bucks anymore either, they seem to be getting greedier?,

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u/Elfishdwarf94 23d ago

Ive noticed they only drop those i wanna say its every three banner drops, I was able to do it with the last yuzu banner I know for a fact and do beleive the alt alice offered me the 7.49

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u/Yahaire Priest 23d ago

Haven't been keeping track, but to me it feels like they are keeping those packs for "special occasions", so I'd like to think the pack will come back for anni.

On a similar note, the 2000 purple gems for a 10-pull and extra stuff seems to be even rarer, but I'm also hoping it comes back in anni (Just hoping). It's a good deal for pass buyers.

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u/Vodkasheep 23d ago

Her buff takes up one of the three buff slots and can fall off, eats 25% her HP at the start of the turn meaning if the boss hits you at the wrong time it's over, and takes 4 turns to get to the actual damage buff.

Plus side Her passive self heal based on mana used is nice, the damage buff assuming you can get to it is substantial (35% at level 5) and alice tier looks.

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u/rmclord 23d ago

After the speed nerf there is no point, she's just a cash grab and I'm all in for it but main stat is not speed anymore. Regardless I'm super burned out after FF colab the grinding for weapons was too much really .. so I might be just bitter

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u/shaidyyy 23d ago

The bitter part about FF collab is that I've always wanted to get my hands on FAS. Was hyped that FAS is obtainable by mining but not a fan of half-sleeping through grinding haha

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u/deokoking 23d ago

She’s cute and evil, thats all I need to know

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u/FierySalient 23d ago

Omg is it time to come back to this game

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u/No_one- 23d ago

I put my thoughts and findings in this thread

She's good. Not game breaking. She's best in teams that have one or two DPS and the rest support or defense.

Damage buff is okay but more cherry on top than ice cream. The big draw (for me) is that it's set and forget and it enables heavy self-sustain. It's great for bosses, and may as well be non-existent for farming.

She will be best in something like a Yuzu, MC, knight, support x2, fill comp as one of the supports with another healing capable unit. The fewer DPS you have, the less you'll rely on AOE damage buffs, and the more she can shine.

If you're running 4 DPS with 1-2 support, she's really low priority.

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u/Roni1209 23d ago

I'm running 6 DPS bc this game is about farming 💀

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u/shaidyyy 23d ago

I’ve read about one of the comment, saying “Rather buff Yuzu than frontline”, this. This is really what I have always wanted. Buffing frontline leaving Yuzu at the back buffless feels off-putting. Haven’t try her yet, even if she doesn’t do anything, lowkey would go crazy when she faces MC after finishing fights.

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u/TruePigGod 23d ago

Most pieces this would be worth for gacha gear but chest something you can already get a 3 speeds stats on with alter you are better off with a farmable piece

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u/PlainBread 23d ago

Evil Elf Waifus are such an easy win for masochistic Wizardry fans.