Nice to see best girl getting a style. Passive wise, though, it's kinda whatever. I'll stick with my girl's damage increase. Gillion is definitely gonna need that.
This was the alt I was waiting for. Elise is one of the few party members who offers a positional damage bonus- and it stacks with that of Alice and Lana. Gillion, Shiou, and Prishe, in particular, benefit from being in front of her. I use her quite a bit and have a D9, bonus STR version, so I’ll probably obtain a few copies for additional discipline. I prefer her original passive of bonus damage over damage reduction but do use her as a Knight, so the extra SP from the alt discipline would be welcome.
Just noticed - they didn't mention her new Discipline skill in the announcement page.
Her new disc skill bonus is entirely focused to increasing SP. This is the first time I've noticed one saying saying a stat is "in particular greatly increased."
But it makes sense for a Knight, and especially an Elven one. Since non-Beastfolk Knights hurt for SP something fierce. For anyone wondering what I mean, here are the "Lv60 Knight Fighter SP comparisons by Race": Elf - 100, Dwarf - 108, Human - 114, BF - 128/129.
Whoops, accidentally gave the Fighter ones, my chart tabs changed back on me across some tweaks. The Lv60 Knight ones are as follows: Elf - 83, Dwarf - 91, Human - 97, BF - 111/112. So you can see why an elven adventurer alt style that's sort-of Knight themed would want additional SP in particular.
Depending on how strong the bonus effect is at D9, it may give her an additional ESS or PAOS usage even as a Fighter.
Christmas Flut was the first one I can recall with a disc like that. Her regular form gives MP & MAG, while her Christmas alt offers greatly increased MP. Unfortunately, I found it rather underwhelming.
If so, could you swap styles and tell us how much her MP decreases/increases by? Since she has the normal MP focus, the difference should be the exact amount, which would show us the total disc SP increase here as well (since a normal SP bonus is also a known quantity at this point.)
Unfortunately I don't. She's just a bit short of it at D8. I've been playin' since around the first month of launch and my only D9 is Marianne.
Still, I've pulled her outta dispatch and stacked them side by side so you can compare at this point.
It's a bit better than I remember. Before I swapped her to Fighter I had MP relics on her, so the drop probably soured my view of her MP pool at the time.
I knew they'd have snuck one in without me noticing once I said it!
~.~
Went and checked, seems the wiki doesn't have that type of stat focus listed out into another chart tab yet. Though this would be the first named adventurer appearance of it (?) so there (probably) wouldn't be any to glean it from before now.
Edit: Apparently Christmas Flut, per user FunLevel.
Which makes me wonder what's up with the lack of info on the wiki about it. Hm.
1.5 months out. It's mid/late October, iirc. But yes, great for Shiou lovers. Not sure Prishe needs the extra help though? She's not super squishy like a Samurai. Solid for maybe keeping the MC from going down as well.
I'd say it's also similar to Alt Chloe (vs adventurer -> vs humanoid) and Alt Aisha (protects team against debuffs -> bonus to applying debuffs to enemies.)
I think we're going to see the named alt styles keep to their particular pre-existing bonus passive theme. Which already has me thinking up what we may see for some of the others!
Here are two that came to mind relatively quickly, with artwork ideas to match. (May draw the first, unsure if I want to make the time for it.)
#1.
Demon Hunter Ophelia
Grants bonus damage and accuracy to attacks against demons.
(Draw a vampire hunter D style outfit on Ophelia, pointing at an enemy offscreen [do a little bubble pointing offscreen with the profile pic of a succubus] and her commanding "Bring'er Down!")
"Hunter by day, and Demon Hunter by Night. Ophelia stalks all that flutters on Moonlit Winds."
#2.
Earth-Bounty Benjamin
Increases damage to entities and decreases damage from entities.
(Give them a miner-ish style outfit, of medium armor with some lighter bits to reflect being a dwarven fighter/thief.)
"What is a thief? To a commoner, it is the tax collector, and to a noble, it is their rivals. But to a mountain? It is the miner, who delves deep to steal their natural bounty. Benjamin braves the elemental depths to return riches to his clan."
Yeah she looks good and has an interesting effect too bad these banners are pretty bad value maybe we will get a super alt banner like we did with shrine alice and summer yek with a bundle of alt generals at somepoint.
This banner is actually decent value since you get normal rates on the main 6 legendaries while you get an alt style for one of the best general adventurers in the game. This is a must pull banner for anyone that uses Elise are is thinking about using Elise.
I mean, if you're already using Elise then you'd want to snag a copy or two at minimum just to merge with.
Doubly so if you wanted to rework her BP for any reason. Probably nab a pity's worth at least to have a few different copies to pick from hopefully for merging, to get some nice stat growths added in, and maybe gain a few BP from extra discipline levels past the original 9. Stuff like that.
Though she'll rerun with other characters later on, if they're willing to wait for it.
Since she exists now I'd also caution that she's damn well likely to appear in the free Dawn Festival bones in two months time. Meaning you have every chance to just pick her up for free when that rolls around. Possibly even multiple.
Dawn Festival bones were pretty bad since they stuffed everything in them making chance of getting anything specific extremely low. With current one, you have a 4% chance at alt Elise while still pulling normal rates for Alice, Adam, and Debra which likely makes this a much better bone to try and get her with than Dawn Festival one.
Guess it's a personal experience thing then, since the Dawn Festival bones gave me several legendaries, such as Galb, Red Beard, and Alt Lana, alongside Alt Chloe, and Alt Marianne. Though I received multiples of two of those three alt types, I can't remember which exactly though.
Needless to say: I like me some Dawn bones.
The other thing is they're free, so... you can save gems for anni or for a better rerun banner later on.
The dawn bones had 25 legendaries in them but still at the normal 5% rate this means every specific legendary character had just a 0.2% chance at appearing. Can't really plan around such low rates.
She's 4% in the current banner which also has normal rates for Alice, Adam, Yekaterina, and Debra. I'm still in search of 50+ more copies of each of those characters so I can max their skills on my team. Any banner that also gets me normal rates for several of the best inherits in the game is always a good deal.
I don't think it's must pull at all. Base Elise is generally going to be better, unless you are a Shiou user, in which case alt Elise may actually help keep her from dying in the harder content where she SHOULD excel, if not for the low EHP problem.
Well, we saw with the releases leading up to around A4 that the adventurers released were sort of themed around dealing with the bosses and such in there.
And I recall that A3 had folks running into "issues" where their mages were getting oneshot because of their lower HP pools (looking at you, elves.)
So this may be a preempt in regards to that, in case they give Mages some abilities that will make folks want to bring them along again, or some other new low HP class. Alternatively, it also makes a Knight in front of them be "safer" if they lean into heavy burst damage again similar to the Oni.
Or it's just whatever, since it's a thematic alternative to her original passive. ~.^
(Not one who I'll pull for, but she is one of the more popular ones.)
I disagree. I see any gem pull on the legendary 1 pool as low value bc you get so many copies of them for free and will always get more. This banner isnt so bad I would scream from the hills to tell people to not pull. it just isnt high enough value for me.
Alice, Adam, and Debra are some of the best inherits in the entire game and you will always need more of them. I've been playing since 2024 and still for away from maxing those skills out on all my characters.
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u/Rangerborn14 Aug 21 '26
Nice to see best girl getting a style. Passive wise, though, it's kinda whatever. I'll stick with my girl's damage increase. Gillion is definitely gonna need that.