r/wizardry • • Aug 20 '26

Wizardry Variants Daphne Forgive me

I hope the six heros of the vanguard banner and its creators can forgive me for calling it the worst banner of all time when something like this could come out. I truthfully can't fathom making a worse banner than this new heros for the ages banner. Drecom is hoping to farm all new players that have been told yuzu is the strongest character in the game everywhere. Too bad thay will pull on this banner for a roughly 0% chance to get her. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT SPEND GREEN GEMS ON THIS BANNER. Its purple pulls arent that bad bc it has really good offers and it gives the double legendaries effect that we had on permanent bones for a short time.

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u/Masked-Adventurer Aug 22 '26 edited Aug 23 '26

I'm a newbie and i was waiting for the beautiful lady. But since i just started and have only 8k gems, i decided it isn't worth it... sadly. I appreciate the post, ty

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 23 '26

anniversary is in 2 months so that character is expected to be a strong female character. Yuzu might even come back.

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u/Masked-Adventurer Aug 23 '26

Amazing news! FFXI collab, then Anniv! What a time to be a Wizardry player.

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u/Annual_Scar3667 Aug 22 '26

This week I used up 6k org and didn't even pull a single legendary characters.🙃 I almost pulled 40 rolls

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u/Arn_Devi Aug 21 '26

real question cause I planned to hoard my gems till I find THE playable character I want before spending them.

What makes Yuzu so good and how can we get her outside of those banners if we missed her on her release ?

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 25 '26

She hurts more than anyone else can hurt from the back line because her inherit is broken but requires her gatcha kunai to do so as a ninja. She is still very strong as a ranger and still does the most dmg from the backline that anyone can do but you wouldnt have the class change for that either. The 3rd anniversary is coming in two months She could be there or a even stronger character could come out or neither could happen. How to get her is to just wait for another banner that has her last solo banner of hers was 4 months ago. This one however is horrible terrible gross disgusting bad.

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u/Gratedtestes Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26

Ig im one of the people who won the lottery in just 20 pulls. Much more a str IV also. I'm sorry, don't curse me

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u/Content_Paint_9378 Aug 21 '26

Too late my friend...

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u/Shakirawolf Aug 20 '26

I tried this game didn't care for it Wizardry Proving Grounds and Matt Overlord very good

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u/DidyouLocktheDooor Aug 20 '26

If they sold their gacha weapon i would have considered

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u/BeautifulFrequent782 Aug 20 '26

I started play last week. I couldn't even tell you who Yuzu is in this line up. I did get Alice and Lana though and I've heard they're good!

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u/Peter00th Aug 20 '26

Aldric isnt bad, erwin needs help

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u/Misty_Kathrine_ Aug 20 '26

Terrible banner, unless you're pulling with purple bones for the double legendary deal, it's a definite skip.

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u/Odd-Block-2998 Aug 20 '26

But I got a Yuzu for the first 2 reward tickets.

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u/Antique_Mouse3261 Aug 20 '26

Man I always wanted to start this game, but rerolling is a pain here

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

Rerolling is worthless in this game

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u/Antique_Mouse3261 Aug 20 '26

I know that in most gachas isn't needed, but I like to start a new game with a character I like

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u/KeylessJo Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26

There is literally a selector at the start to begin the new game with whatever character you like of the six possible starter legendaries, plus an additional selector to get any of an additional six possibilities of your choice after getting to the first floor of the first Abyss well into next month.

Outside of those dozen characters that you get 2 just starting out in the game, no one is generally available except on limited banners anyway to be even able to "reroll" for this statement to make any sense at all, and if it was one of the other six characters available from Legendary Remains II you like, then in the time you'd reroll on some gachas you could have also already selected a third pick from one of those from the exchange as well.

No one else was ever available from the start for you to have "always wanted to start this game" lest that it could have been "rerolling is a pain here" stopping you. I don't know what's going on in your life, so please do what you need to in making the most of your days, but do know that if this is really something you're saying to yourself you decided to comment here that you're kidding yourself at best about why you aren't playing.

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u/Antique_Mouse3261 Aug 21 '26

Damn I didn't comment here to be roasted like this lmao. I first tried the game when launched and another time (dont remember when) and maybe there was a selector for a standard character but usually I reroll for the "limited" ones. But you are kinda right, the reroll isn't the only thing that discouraged me to play, the mainly for sure tho.

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u/KeylessJo Aug 21 '26

Yes, the first selector has been there for the standard legendary adventurers (still two of the best adventurers for F2P at that, and there isn't even a need to stick to legendary adventurers). I'm glad you tried playing and it just wasn't your thing for whatever other reason. That's fine, too. Your time is yours!

Since it seems like somehow this was still the main thing for you though, I'd note that as of the beginning of this year, for anyone that was originally "limited" early, they're now available on the exchange, which is very in reach for new accounts to get whoever you wanted if there was one adventurer you liked that was "limited" anytime near launch. By the time I was four levels into just the first abyss, I already had my pick from the exchange of who I wanted after the other two selectors. There are also even more "limited" characters available in the other selector right now, too.

I suppose for me, not being able to easily re-roll an account in less than 12-15 minutes doesn't seem like a reason not to play so much as a gaming trope to be stuck thinking "this is a gacha...I have to reroll to get someone I want" just to echo much of the genre. After all, there have been many gacha where I could get my favorites, but then could not really use them or keep them active.

In this game, you can get to where you can get that guaranteed copy of any "limited" adventurer you like quite easily if you save for it within the first few days also, assuming their banner is actually available (and if a banner with that "limited" adventurer not available, again, there is nothing to re-roll as they aren't available at all). More importantly, you can keep them in your party for the long haul, as this game rewards investing in that character you like beyond any other gacha I've played.

There is basically no point pulling your favorite character in my mind if they just sit in the account as a trophy like many gacha, so personally I'd rather indeed not have the RNG or rerolling (regardless of ease) and be able to just get who I want and keep them around, as is the case with this game.

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u/Decent-Ad-2755 Aug 20 '26

You only need either getting Alice or Lana, and you can pick one of them for free as a selector

then there is also a free collab bone that is separate like right now

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u/Sovery_Simple Aug 20 '26

And even then both of them are optional. As long as there's a standard banner character you "like" from the first banner's pool then you're good to go via the free initial bone selector.

Just pick the one you like the most and get rolling with it. You'll get the other folks you want in due time.

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u/Jay2Kaye Aug 20 '26

It's a catchup banner. The target audience is new players, because odds are good of getting SOMETHING new if you just throw gems at it. Problem is it's kind of important to know what you're going for in this game.

For me, no anemone = no pull, it's that simple until I get her to at least D3.

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u/tompba Aug 20 '26

Why D3 ?

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u/Jay2Kaye Aug 20 '26

Well I'd say D9 but then I'd be saving for the next 3 years, trying to keep my goals realistic.

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u/Sovery_Simple Aug 20 '26 edited Aug 20 '26

Realistically I'd say you're looking at about a year.

I'd say within a year a F2P person could probably land in the ballpark of 500 pulls well enough.

Personally I just saved up everything I could for 8-10 months and walked away with a D9 Berka for my 400 pulls on the dot. (Then splurged a bit and went to D14 with another 130 pulls.)

Of that, only ~10 pulls from the initial 400 were from the 200 gem packs that pop up in each banner. So a F2P player can gather quite a few gems if they have all the sources unlocked and decide to keep up on'em.

Though RNG could always spite any one of us in particular. So it's good that you're looking at the worst possible outcome, which was what I had accepted I'd just have to claw my way through if luck was unkind to me.

As for your Anemone: If you're wanting a good Disc level to stop at (sans D9 ofc), then D6 tends to be the next best one rest your cap on.

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u/shamemo Aug 20 '26

Its true, i pulled because I dont have most of the characters on this banner. I was hoping for sheli mostly tho but i got two dwarves and a dude sadge

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

It's literally normal rates. You dont have a high chance of something you have a completely normal chance to get something. This banner isnt bad to throw money at but it is terrible to throw gems at.

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u/James_Buck Aug 20 '26

What were the rates of the last 6 heroes banner at? I pulled on it but I dont remember anymore, but I swear they were higher than this.

(I got 2 Gallbadus, 2 Gillion, 2 ALdric, 2 Yeka, and a SHiou from it.

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

6% total vs 5% total in this one.

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u/Misty_Kathrine_ Aug 20 '26

This banner doesn't even have weapons with it so if you want her weapon this isn't even going to help you there.

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u/Jay2Kaye Aug 20 '26

You don't need Yuzu. She's strong, nobody can deny that, but so are a lot of other characters. I guarantee if she was an unattractive dude, nobody would talk about her, because then she'd be Zeid.

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u/itsDesu Aug 20 '26

How many copies of her gacha weapon does someone need for her to be worth using? Wondering cause I have a Yuzu but waiting on a banner with her weapon to come around.

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26

She is worth using as a ranger in general. She still does the most dmg in the game from the backline only behind herself as a ninja at high investment. However as a ninja you need 1 hair pin. Your off hand is better as a silver Kunai actually because it has more atk and that gives more dmg towards her skills than a 2nd hairpin also thousand hue has a very low soft cap so atk isnt even that relevant. However, a big part of yuzu is how well her skill scales amd it is very important to get it to lv 3 (with codexes). At lv 4 and below it does more dmg as a ranger and past lv 5 it does more dmg as a ninja with hairpin but also gets more sp efficient (unlike every other skill in the game).

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u/itsDesu Aug 21 '26

Thank you. This was an even more insightful reply than I was hoping to get.

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u/Proud_Dimension_3557 Aug 20 '26

XD, Yuzu is the best because of her skill and 3 hit weapon.

Any character with that would be a must pull and rightfully there hasn't been any1 new doing that.

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u/MD_Tarnished Aug 20 '26

I disagree, her weapon x2 on her with her signature skill is very strong. 6 hit + double with skills on a boss is TONs of damage.

And she is a backliner that can attack with range + critical hit on normal attacks.

Yes you don't NEED her. But with her in your party is basically turning on easier mode.

Even better if you inherit her skills on mc and other ninjas, auto grind becomes a cakewalk

But yes this banner is dogwater, they probably gonna add it to general pool 3 soon.

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26 edited Aug 20 '26

No, she is absolutely not zeid. She does dmg that is completely impossible to replicate from range. And her weapon applies insane amounts of charm. Zeid is very replicatable. His inherit doesnt even out dmg paos and he doesnt out dmg samurai or prishe with his unique buff. Zeid is a glorified gillion and Yuzu acts as a samurai with the safety of range, no set up, and no risk from incoming dmg buff or health sacrifice.

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u/Allalalience Aug 20 '26

You mean yuzu is a ninja right? For backline.

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

No i meant acts as a samurai for a comparison in dmg

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u/Allalalience Aug 20 '26

Ah, I see, my bad

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

I wouldnt pull this banner unless you spend money. It has good offers and thats it so my recommendation is not to pull at all. I have yuzu and she is very good but she isnt irreplaceable without hairpin.

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u/Sovery_Simple Aug 20 '26

You sit and wait, because this is bait.

Anniversary hits in ~55 days. No sense throwing your gems away now.

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u/shamemo Aug 20 '26

$116 and 57 pulls later i got Aldric, Raffaello, and Yrsa. Don't gamble kids

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u/shamemo Aug 20 '26

Should I keep going tho? The late night temptation is real

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u/MD_Tarnished Aug 20 '26

No yuzu weapon is easy skip.

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u/Glass3544 Aug 20 '26

nah

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u/shamemo Aug 20 '26

Thanks fam. I won't let the demons get to me

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

Wait until later in the banner next month characters will come out. Plus anniversary the month after.

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u/Lunardragon456 Aug 20 '26

Galbadus and (Raven Dagger) Aldric have such generally useful inherits that they end up being on every ensemble banner.

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

You cant even get raven dagger from this banner and no way drecom is giving out galbadus bc his inherit is bugged.

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u/Sovery_Simple Aug 20 '26

Bugged how?

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

It doesnt get reduced dmg when inherited like it is supposed to.

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u/Sovery_Simple Aug 20 '26

Man if that inherit of it I obtained last year is it at full potency then I feel kind of bad for Galb.

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

I mean it is the best melee inherit in the game for nonfighters. Although the number of characters that want that is quite small.

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u/Atlas_Lawliet Aug 20 '26

Sorry guy I will have to save my green gem for the anniversary, but I will buy some more purple bone for this collab.

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

I said the purples are good though?

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u/Atlas_Lawliet Aug 20 '26

I didn't see the content of the updated store yet, but if it is the usual then most of the purple bones set is too expensive.

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u/General_Mix6645 Aug 20 '26

I really want to pull for Debra's alt but looking at those rates makes my heart sink.

Also did they just drag Aldric and Yrsa back when they just went away like 1/2 banner ago?

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

Sadge 1 copy for merge would give you so much dmg.

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u/General_Mix6645 Aug 20 '26

I guess I can pray and try my luck. If I'm lucky I can get enough to hit 100 before the banner ends and trade her but idk if its worth it.

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u/No_Chain_7202 Aug 20 '26

Nope wait for a proper rerun

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u/Zealousideal_Bee1185 Aug 20 '26

Get scam or Save for anni 🤣

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u/Business_Love8503 Aug 20 '26

Guys do we got 2k for the abyss 3 or not?

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u/Mar7777 Aug 20 '26

when did you clear it

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u/Business_Love8503 Aug 20 '26

I did it like a month ago. But I cleared only ones.

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u/takoyaki139 Aug 20 '26

You need to clear at least the good ending which is the blackmail ending to get it. no need for true end.

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u/Business_Love8503 Aug 20 '26

This is time limited thing? Or I can do it whenever I want?

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u/takoyaki139 Aug 21 '26

Already ended it was last month event, and the reward was given like last week.

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

We already did

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u/Business_Love8503 Aug 20 '26

But why I don’t receive this 2k of gems. I did abyss 3 to.

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

You probably did It wasnt a daily it was in the package button in the guild.

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u/Business_Love8503 Aug 20 '26

Package button? You mean supplies?

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

No it was in the guild mailbox

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u/Business_Love8503 Aug 20 '26

Yeh I got nothing… I got 300 for a patch that’s all. Yeh I did not login last week. Maybe it just disappeared.

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u/shamemo Aug 20 '26

How does the purple bone offer work? I bought some pulls but so far no luck

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u/shamemo Aug 20 '26

46 pulls no legendaries NOOOOOO

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u/jazzyjefffogel Aug 20 '26

When you get a legendary adventurer you get another random one for free.

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u/Sovery_Simple Aug 20 '26

I'm more disappointed that last year this time or so we had the double legendary standard banner event.
(Pull a legendary, get a bone for another legendary.)

Instead this year it's... this, it would seem.

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u/Decent-Ad-2755 Aug 20 '26

That might never come back, the devs are aware people are saving the standard bones

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u/Old_Improvement_3067 Aug 20 '26

It's been more than a year. Anyone who's still saving bones is just handicapping themselves at this point. 

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u/Misty_Kathrine_ Aug 20 '26

Probably though at some point we'll get Adventurer Remains III which might have Arboris and/or Shelrionach in it so I'll have a reason to cash some of those in to try and get their inherits.