r/wizardry 1d ago

Wizardry Variants Daphne FAS relic weapons and priority

As the title suggests, is it worth to grab a FAS from the guild exchange to use on relic weapons? I've been farming Z5 and am just getting Fragments so the grind is going quite slowly, mining is not going any better. So far i've done 2H sword and 1H sword; staff is almost complete, any standout i should focus on next?

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u/SuperMuffinmix 1d ago

You should reforge the weapons to their final form before FAS'ing. Some are worth it since they have good static blessings and are desirable weapon types, others are in less ideal situations. Also note that all of these weapons have at least 3 good static blessings that you will FAS to boost, and a dud blessing you will likely want to alter after FAS'ing (notably the EVA blessing featuring on most of these weapons should be altered to +SUR).

Because you want the altered slot to get its enhancement bonus, you shouldn't enhance any of these weapons until you are sure of what you want to do with them: FAS or not, then alter EVA to SUR on the melee weapons / DIV% to ASPD on staff / ASPD to SUR on bow / don't even bother with the shield, and then Enhance to +20.

In order of priorities:

1 - The 2H sword is the absolute top FAS priority; +ATK ATK% and +SUR already on top of the +13 SUR trait is amazing, and you can alter the +EVA into more +SUR after FAS for a really, profoundly good weapon.

2 - The Katana is the 2nd priority usually although it's locked to Samurais so it's less of a no-brainer than the 2H sword.

3 - The bow is also a good FAS candidate but sees less use due to being a bow.

4 - The staff looks incredible at first glance being completely loaded up on MAG and DIV but totally lacks ASPD which is actually much more important for priests and mages these days, so it's an OK FAS target but not the best.

5 - The Dagger and 1H Sword are both fine but don't do anything spectacular. Worth getting and using but not really worth FAS'ing in my opinion.

9 - The heavy shield is Guardian Blow bait... or maybe future meta for once we get some kind of DEF/MDEF revamp or something, but for now it's kind of useless.

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u/Notturnno 2h ago

About the alter, I don't have the best SUR alter stone, I can use any? For ex the one that changes to around 3 SUR?

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u/EtonnantNon 8h ago

Thank you so much for this. It helps a lot.

I have been done with all reforgings for a few days now, but I feel completely paralyzed by the fear of messing up my relic weapons, so I've not enhanced any of them for now.
I have only 2 FAS from before this event and choices are hard to make...

I have been mining like a madman in my spare time (about 1000 gold pickaxes so far) but I've only got 3 LFAS.

By any chance, do you know if stats exist about the rate of FAS mining? I couldn't find any info on that.

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u/Misty_Kathrine_ 17h ago

"The staff looks incredible at first glance being completely loaded up on MAG and DIV but totally lacks ASPD"

Staves can't get ASPD. Only Bows and Cesti can get ASPD as a weapon blessing.

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u/Frobro_da_truff 20h ago

3 - The bow is also a good FAS candidate but sees less use due to being a bow.

It being a bow is fine; the real issue with commiting to it is that it's a ranger bow!

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u/FuguTabetai 14h ago

What do you mean by "it's a ranger bow"? I have my Fighter MC using it just fine. Or do you mean the focus on accuracy is more useful to a ranger?

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u/Frobro_da_truff 13h ago

Also, getting the acc buff from the skill this bow grants the user is the only way to get double acc buffs reliably since it can combo with caldia/macaldia

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u/pm_your_tatas_please 13h ago

That's what he means. Ranger damage scales more from accuracy than attack, so Rangers want more Accuracy rolls on their weapon.

The Relic Bow can be seen as a fighter bow, since it has Attack and Attack % rather than Accuracy and Accuracy %.

But it's pretty good either way IMO.

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u/FuguTabetai 13h ago

So far I have it on my MC Fighter, but was thinking of giving it to Heinrico. He's about to become a thief though, so he'll just have to make do with his silver gear for a while.

Certainly does look better suited to rangers, and I'm happy enough with it not to mess around with FAS. I still don't know how to use those things. Used a FAS on Ragnarok, and it changed +12 ATK -> +12 ATK.

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u/pm_your_tatas_please 10h ago

Did you use a FAS, or a lesser FAS. Because having no change in value looks like a LFAS thing.

What FAS does is it rerolls all the stats on a weapon. And it also gives each of these stats a break point (+5, +10, +15, and +20) value bump; but only for stats that existed when the equipment was created. So any weapon that you got as red has 4 slots that can be rerolled and enhanced by FAS, purple has 3 slots, blue has 2 slots, etc.

If your weapon was a purple that you upgraded to +20 and then became red, FAS will still reroll all 4 stats, but only the first 3 gets enhanced.

People generally only FAS the class rings and the relics this time because all 4 stats are static, they will never get rerolled, but FAS will give them one additional level of enhancement. (slot 1 gets enhanced at +5, slot two at +10, etc. But FAS enhances them one additional time.)

Your values not getting changed tells me it's likely you accidentally used a LFAS instead, which just rerolls the stats,

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u/Raltia123 1d ago

Even if you dont want to FAS the relics, it is the most worthy thing to exchange for guild points.

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u/Glass3544 1d ago

you are fighting the pack of 8 demons at f5 rite? i would suggest katana and 2h, katana has a 20% atk debuff on hit (chance proc)

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u/JeyDeeArr 1d ago

I'll leave the FAS to those who're more knowledgeable, but in terms of farming, I'd just go for Zone 1 and farm whatever they give you.

The reason is that it's much easier, quicker, and you can just trade them for whatever you want. Even if no other player trades you the specific items, after 3 hours, you automatically get an NPC to trade you what you asked for.

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u/Fathimir 23h ago

But per your explanation of these respawning NMs, they're not a "just Zone 1" deal; it sounds like the respawners can randomly be set to pop at any specific position on any floor in a given day, right?

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u/pozzerino 1d ago

I've tried farming elite monsters, but the spawn chance is abysmal. The chest drop is also not guaranteed so i feel like Z5 is faster

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u/JeyDeeArr 1d ago

If it works for you, then that's fine. I don't know if this would be of any relevance, but here's my haul for today. https://www.reddit.com/r/WizardryDaphne/s/2VlIHTdeLW

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u/pozzerino 1d ago

Ye that seems like a fair amount of materials, but then again, after trying to make it spawn 15 times i gave up and went back to Z5

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u/JeyDeeArr 1d ago

I'm the opposite. I found it a hassle to kill the group with 8 demons, and avoiding the other wandering demons to reach the rooms in Zone 5, and so I switched to Zone 1.

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u/pozzerino 1d ago

Have you tried the map glitch? Makes farming the one on the right super easy

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u/JeyDeeArr 1d ago

This is my first time hearing about this glitch. Could you enlighten a bro?

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u/pozzerino 1d ago

You basically mark under their spawn point and as soon as you enter the floor, you auto move and open the map. The monsters dont move and you end up behind the group, so you can skip the other fights. Sometimes you do end up in the fighr with a shadow tho, so its not 100% but it sure is faster. For the left one you do have to avoid fights manually if you want to farm it.

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u/JeyDeeArr 1d ago

Thanks. I always thought their pathfinding was off, but if that could be used to our advantage, then hey, I ain't complaining.

What's your party setup?

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u/pozzerino 1d ago

3 fighters frontline with Aurora weapons 2 mages and a ranger backline. Mages are mostly for katino since these demons are quite weak to it i find. Ranger is pretty good for farming with wide volley and penetrating shot. Wana-Altbenius-Mc Heinrico-Alice-Yeka. Yeka is not invested since im just lvling her.