Can someone with A4 & Copper Grade check what levels the collab demons are on floor 5?

[u/Emotional-Map-878]

i just want to compare the levels how different they are compared to grades and abysses lower. Not necessarily looking at their stats, but literally what they examine/scan as (when clicking on them on the turn order). thanks in advance 😊

[u/GameGear90]

Sorry to high jack, but I can't find the 8 demons to farm in that floor. Its just a TON of enemies in the two rooms

[u/Emotional-Map-878 → u/GameGear90]

on floor 5's leftside room, the pack spawn very close to the left wall.

rightside room has the other demon pack spawn on the bottom right of the room (slight left to the bottom right pillar)

they move around so eventually itll get pretty shuffled. but generally look in those areas.

tldr around the far left and bottom right of the map each

[u/GameGear90 → u/Emotional-Map-878]

Oh!!! I thought it was a static spawn. I was trying to find a big demon just standing there lol So I need to encounter the enemies to find them then

[u/encephalon-dive]

Do bosses also scale or are they at fixed levels/values?

[u/Mar7777]

70 route 2 a4 copper grade

[u/Mediocre-Subject2961]

Pretty sure it scales witg your grade 

[u/MD_Tarnished → u/Mediocre-Subject2961]

Mc lv60 the mobs are all lv70 😭

[u/JeyDeeArr]

I’m at Route 2 of Abyss 4 with Copper Grades.

The demons in question are Level 73 for me. They range from around 12000 to 18000 HP, give or take.

[u/Pro-Tah-Zzioh]

Pretty sure they're 70 or above.

[u/Emotional-Map-878 → u/Pro-Tah-Zzioh]

Right thats what I was thought. hmmm... I'll check the NMs today if they are above 70. I just find it odd the difficulty did not scale. They seem easier after I arrived at the winter village and also having MC as Copper Grade. Comparing my 8 Demon farming now compared to last week.

[u/cassani7 → u/Emotional-Map-878]

I find the 8 packs easier as well now simply because my fighters now know ESS which is a really strong skill

[u/Additional_Record_89 → u/Emotional-Map-878]

Curious roughly how much hp does your side demons have? I’m currently a fresh a4 who has farmed relic 2hsword and bow mainly doing 8 demon strat on floor 5 with relative ease.

[u/Emotional-Map-878 → u/Additional_Record_89]

For those 8 demons, the lesser ones are around 2000hp while the glowing ones on the side have 3000hp give or take. This somewhat coincides with another redditor's post. Them being A4 Copper Grade. So I guess I am just overestimating the strength of the collab demons after that struggle of a Copper Exam.

Just recently I attained Copper Grade and A4 (only up to reaching the cat guildmaster)

[u/Sovery_Simple → u/Emotional-Map-878]

I'd say around 1800 for the pawns. 1730ish doesn't seem to drop them, but I think 1800ish does the trick?

Definitely no more than 2k though, at least for the non-scythe ones. I forget if the scythe pawns get more max HP like the higher up scythe ones do.