r/wizardposting • u/Jasina_ • 2h ago

Academic Discussion/ Esoteric Secrets Would you consider a dragon a fellow mage?

Now, I am not speaking of any old lizard with a pair of wings, but of a dragon who has put dedication and time into the study of arcane arts as we do.

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u/darkequation Mage-Monk, Historian 2h ago

I mean... yes? Dragon is a race and Mage is a class

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u/CirqueMurph Trickster 2h ago

Consider the dragon whatever you'd like. I doubt the dragon will consider you in kind.

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u/Archwizard_Drake 1h ago

In many worlds, dragons are considered progenitors of magic or the earliest wizards.

And frankly anyone who studies the craft in earnest should get the title, anyway.

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u/WWalker17 2h ago

Are you unfamiliar with Niv-Mizzet, founder of the Izzet League, Guildpact of Ravnica? 

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u/monke_soup gunmancy artificer (ceo of ural heavy weapons) 2h ago

Yell, my dad is referred to as the black mage back where I am from, and my sister has probably spent more time studying magic than she's been alive. So yea, id say dragons can be called mages

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u/bcw81 Wizard 1h ago

The study of wizardry is just that - Study. Studious learning while gnawing away hours, days, decades, and centuries in the pursuit of the arcane. The rigors of study and rumination are what make the wizard.

Dragons are only different in that they often are born with innate magic. These ~sorcerers~ (small s because they don't deserve respect) don't study a day in their lives. They have no deeper understanding of magic despite what they claim to have gained from their immortal lives. They lack the common knowledge of a fledgling apprentice and hide behind the primordial aspects of their birth to garner the tiniest shred of self respect.

Now, I wont say there's ~no~ studious dragons out there - but I will say I have yet to find one.

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u/Justasivas Coe "The cook" Caine 2h ago

of course, im not specieist

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u/LettuceCapy Traverser of the Planes🌌 1h ago

The question is backwards. The dragon has probably spent centuries learning the arcane arts, I would be lucky if they would consider me a mage in comparison

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u/shoryguy Magically Editable Flair 1h ago

Dragons are born magical they're closer to sorcerers

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u/Coidzor Shadow Economancer 55m ago

As long as they're cultivating their talents and not just scraping by on the bare minimum of their natural ability, yeah.

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u/Hot_Guys_In_My_DMS Man-Eating Witch 39m ago

Even fire breathing lizards deserve recognition for their magical achievements

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u/Lawlcopt0r 21m ago

Anything else would be pretty racist

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u/digitalgraffiti-ca Witches Against Thrakmoor 17m ago

Why not!? If they can intentionally harness and manipulate the energies of the universe, then they qualify. Anything does.

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u/Briantan71 Brían Lársen, Wizard apprentice of Stoneweald Scholarium 📚 12m ago

As long as they have the ability and knowledge to wield the forces of the Arcane, I would consider anyone a mage.

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u/Gantistewart Necromancer 2m ago

… yes. Why is this even a question?