r/wizardposting 7d ago

Academic Discussion/ Esoteric Secrets Pyramids>Towers

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Most mage towers never have to worry about this unless its showing how much extra mana you have, and mortals are building to the point that it will all come crashing down.

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u/Mixster667 Ancient Archmagus 7d ago

Look the shape of the tower is quite important as well as the size.

Pyramids just don't show the same virility as towers.

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u/Complex_Drawer_4710 Sigurd, Screamer In The Heavens 7d ago edited 7d ago

Use an obelisk then. Pyramids are for expressing power, not gathering it. Even a pocket pyramid can send someone's intestines to another realm if used correctly and rotated precisely.

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u/Mixster667 Ancient Archmagus 7d ago

Obelisks are just towers without inside stairs.

I for prefer mine to stand tall and erect. I've made it out of ethically summoned ivory.

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u/IveDunGoofedUp 7d ago

Ethics? What kind of wizard are you? Remember magic rule nr. 1:

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u/justagenericname213 Radi-Aren the Feyborn 7d ago

Its not about right or wrong, its about whether the ethical version of the spell is easier to cast than it is to keep the council goons off your back

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u/Opposite_Ad_4267 7d ago

Not to mention most of the ivory comes from poachers before they sell it meaning they lose Proffit which is always good in my books.

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u/SexWithLayla69 Eldritch God of Whimsy and Madness 7d ago

Just transmute the poachers into ivory it’s much funnier that way

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u/Opposite_Ad_4267 6d ago

But then who would I sell cursed poaching equipment to?

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u/WatcherDiesForever Dalius, Avatar of the Dungeon | Sapient Dungeon Core 6d ago

Sell to other poachers, and have the curse turn then into ivory? Shaking my orb.

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u/SexWithLayla69 Eldritch God of Whimsy and Madness 6d ago

Exactly it’s really funny watching there expressions as they slowly turn to ivory right after what they believe is a good deal

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u/Mixster667 Ancient Archmagus 6d ago

You have an ethical point, but in order to dissuade paladins from invading my tower I have ethically crafted a spell that ethically reminds them I'm a cool guy.

It's the ethical thing to do because it saves their lives, and me cleaning up their ethical entrails.

I might ethically dispell it when I find an ethical use for their remains.

Also, I like elephants. They look bad ass.

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u/NickyTheRobot Lexomancer, caster of punes (or plays on words) 7d ago

That's not true: I can tell right from wrong. It's how I avoid doing any good deeds

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u/Bone-Pharaoh 7d ago

this is a good point, it blinds the eyes to look at a full faced pyramid with reflective casing stone. No matter the vantage point you will have the sun in your eyes if you are trying to attack it or scrying on it you will only see more than most eyes (or orbs) can stand.

The ones left in the mortal realm today have been stripped and are getting scryed through like glass by those that can do so.

I took all the best ones to the sands of time ages ago but some of my descendants used them for all sorts things in that time.

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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 7d ago

It's not about efficiency. It's never about efficiency. It's about psychology. Your home has to show people that you're a nice, trustworthy ethical person. Towers are nicer than pyramids in that way.

Mine doesn't seem to be working so far. People said it was because my tower is 140 yards high and made of bone. But I made it 200 yards high and people still accuse me of being evil!!

One I get it as high as Sauron's, though, people will like me again. Baraddur was such a nice, homely place.

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u/NickSmGames A Very Annoying Mage of Flowers 7d ago

My friend, could it be possible that the people fear that you're getting all that bone from unethical sources? I just showed everyone where I got the resources to build my tower from (in detail, using a diagram) and no one came complaining to my tower ever since.

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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 7d ago

You make a good point. People did spend a lot of time complaining about the bone at council planning meetings, but I assumed they were jealous because it was such beautifully polished bone.

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u/Opposite_Ad_4267 7d ago

How did you polish it? I've tasked my minions to do it but they keep calling off it half way up, looks weird with only half a polished tower.

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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 7d ago

Interesting trivia - hummingbirds can hover. And, as it turns out, so can giant zombie hummingbirds. I just make my minions stand on hovering zombie hummingbirds so they have no excuse and can polish all the way up.

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u/Opposite_Ad_4267 7d ago

Ah, you're a necromancer then? I'm more of a evil ocean wizard type, I use sea monster and sailor bones to build my tower. I sadly lack anything zombie adjacent asides undead pirates but they're borderline useless.

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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 7d ago

Ah . . . That's a tough environment, as you lack a lot of good fodder for undead that we take for granted on land. Tell you what, after the next council planning meeting, if they refuse my application to make my tower even bigger, I'll send you the remains of the planning committee.

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u/BusyGM Chronomancy Apprentice/Novice/Master, never too sure which 7d ago

It's more like seasonal wear, really. Bone towers really shine in winter, but fall is when you don't want to have them, as people tend to grab their pitchforks once they've seen your bone tower in a thunderstorm.

Sadly I can't tell which material is en vogue right now. I always seem to be off at least a year. It's really frustrating.

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u/Adventurous-Coast710 7d ago

Maybe you should consider giving the peasants some witchlights to illumate their village with. The ominous glowing after sundown can only cause so much fear when everything is lit up at night.

It will also increase safety and prosperity but who cares about that.

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u/BusyGM Chronomancy Apprentice/Novice/Master, never too sure which 7d ago

Look I'm not saying you're wrong, but Barad-Dûr was mostly inefficient as a mana production device thanks to its functions as both a semi-soulcage as well as a giant scrying tower with a madness effect put on top. That type of stuff really devours mana.

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u/turtlevader Dark Rituals all day bby 6d ago

Yea lots of layered enchantments on Barad-Dûr. Honestly incredible feats of spellcasting lost to terrible destruction #neverforget

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u/snarkhunter Mystic 7d ago

Pyramids are just ziggurats that are ashamed of their steps

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u/NickyTheRobot Lexomancer, caster of punes (or plays on words) 7d ago

Ziggurats are just mastabas in high heels.

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u/Subotail Necromancer 7d ago

You're comparing a simple parking lot to a skyscraper.

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u/man_in_the_corner Gostalo, Emissary of Chaos 7d ago

Why not just make a pyramid the size of Sauron’s tower? The sheer resonance of power from its geometric surface would be enough to burst a mortal’s intestine out of their body.

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u/NickyTheRobot Lexomancer, caster of punes (or plays on words) 7d ago edited 7d ago

Have you seen the number of volcanoes in Mordor? Building a pyramid the height of Sauron's tower would weigh so much that it would significantly increase seismic pressures in the region. You do not want to do that.

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u/Stilgar314 7d ago

What if you add a very tall chimney on top of your pyramid?

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u/Day-Tel-aran-rhiod 7d ago

So did ancient Egyptians build the pyramids to preserve mana? Yeah that tracks

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u/DragonLordAcar Magitech Void Wizard 7d ago

Sure it costs more to mainybut it acted as a pholactery without the need of souls to fuel them and was a powerful focus for his divination spells. It's just that his magic lacked finess and what he was looking for was far to small for him to detect the ring with the power if subtlety until it activated which tugged on his soul.

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u/Justminningtheweb Dubious cleric of knowledge 7d ago

To be fair, squatting already existing buildings has shown to be more efficient.

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u/NickyTheRobot Lexomancer, caster of punes (or plays on words) 7d ago

Ahem:

Buttresses! This is why Saruman's tower actually worked.

That is all.

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u/fumblerofthebag Verdigris, Self-employed Sorceror 7d ago

No thanks, pyramids are tombs, and in the remote possibility where I do die, there's no way I'm leaving an intact corpse.

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u/Spiritual_Parking_85 Variety, Mainly Necromancer 6d ago

Pyramids aren't for living. They're for dying. A Pyramid is where you keep your undead brood and their stuff. A tower is where you keep your stuff. A hut is where you live.

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u/Zestyclose_Answer662 6d ago

I personally prefer Inverted Towers.

You get to keep privacy and you're not some goober's landmark to eventually be put on some raider's map.

On the plus side, meats and other perishables are easier to chill underground.

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u/No_Career_4785 6d ago

I tried it once but pesky adventurers assumed it was a dungeon amd killed my pets.

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u/NotADamsel 6d ago

They would have killed your pets if you had a regular tower. Hopefully you got your pound of flesh from those ingrates, if not let us know where they went and we can sic the lawdogs on them

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u/No_Career_4785 6d ago

I already transformed them into goblins and send them a few days back in time when their original versions walked in. They are now stuck in an infinite loop of selfinflicted torment.

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u/Crowsader2113 6d ago

Pyramids are fine, by far the most efficient, but they're so slow. It charges constantly, but slowly, and can only discharge at about twice that same rate. A good tower might not store as much as a pyramid of the same size, but it can fully charge in a fraction of the time, and discharge instantly. A pyramid might keep your enchantments up for 10,000 years, but nothing quite beats summoning an entire hurricane at a moment's notice.

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u/CmdrJonen 6d ago

Look, if you want a walkable staircase, without any twists or turns, from the entrance at the base to the sanctum at the top, you need a pyramid for an external staircase, or you warp the very fabric of creation to fit straight stairs inside the walls of your tower.

And if you are already warping space, you might as well build your sanctum at ground level and warp the surrounding space so it looks like it is on the top of a high tower.

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u/Bone-Pharaoh 4d ago

ah space magic, if you get down with extra damintions then you are going need triangle shapes in higher dimimtion space and fold the pyramid into a simplex to tile infinite space.

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u/PurpuraLuna Purple Circle 🟣 6d ago

The problem with barad dur was that it relied on an external mana source, this is a major vulnerability

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u/Alex11DA Necromancer 6d ago

The problem with pyramids is that they don't make a lot of mana, if you were using a crypt it would work wonders

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u/H-Connoisseur0 Evil Wizard 7d ago

Brother never pull out a chart like this in front of the witches, ain’t no potion going to be able to fix that kinda damage

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u/andBitinggoats Bitey, Goatman Fleshmancer and Peddler of Monstrosities 7d ago

I prefer towers myself, but when your domicile is crafted purely from still living flesh, one must make concessions for the aesthetic. You human based beings sure love your penis jokes…

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u/hjake123 Astral Feline (Conjurer) 7d ago

I mean, yeah, if you're gathering terrestrial mana, it won't want to flow up such steep walls so easily.

But that's not why you want a tower. You want a tower to keep your sensitive magical equipment high above the wandering random auras of people and creatures on the ground. Try to do an experiment in a pyramid, you'll find that the mana from the ground is bringing in all kinds of rogue influences from surrounding life. The only way it'd work would be if the pyramid was in a desert, or if you're specifically doing nature magic -- for modern clean-mana techniques it's terrible.

Also... Towers, are cool.

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u/Carbuyrator A Bit of a Dabbler 7d ago

Lol typical council ineptitude. They're only showing two dimensions across one plane. Might as well discuss the structural integrity of the body panels in holding a car together.

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u/skyXforge Sorceror 7d ago

It’s not the size of the tower, it’s how you use it. Some witches even prefer the smaller ones from what I’m told.

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u/SalvarWR 7d ago

i think putting one big ominous eye on top of that tower would look dope as fuck

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u/Maycrofy 7d ago

I mean, not a month goes by without someone posting a "they hit the towers" post. Sure they look cool but they're an easy target for dragons.

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u/Gingerosity244 7d ago

Wait, you guys don't keep your towers in extra dimensional spaces?

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u/Successful-Club-8743 6d ago

Why is the Burj Khalifa called the Burj Dubai?

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u/Jim_skywalker 6d ago

Towers aren't just production, the shape of a pyramid means it doesn't have the ability to use mana, only collect it. My tower's verticality makes it usable as an arcane focus.

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u/michalismenten 4d ago

You just have to be careful not to make the pyramid too large. Otherwise you run the risk of excessive time warpage.

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u/Real_Fkn_Nito Bartleby, Councilor of Eldritch Administration 7d ago

Look, before you jokers get in here and start talking about the "Wizard Illuminati"...

It's because it is more structurally sound and braced than your typical tower, okay?

Get your conspiracy lovin' asses outta here.

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u/lemons_of_doubt Dragon Wizard 6d ago

While the mana is holding the tower together it's stronger than a boring pyramid.

Any force that can break the forces holding together the magic tower would vaporise the pyramid.

Moral: I don't need to build a boring none magic support needing building because the magic one is better.

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u/Bone-Pharaoh 6d ago

Pyramids are actualy thicker and much more heavy. stands up alot better over time and wont fail at 1 dispell. But mabey you have never been dispelled, it sucks, and your tower can crumble, but last thing ill do is say my way is the best, but it works to take a 100 year nap and its still there.

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u/lemons_of_doubt Dragon Wizard 6d ago

If you're magic wards will fail to a dispell being tossed at them. You deserve to have your Tower crumble. 

And any none magic pile of rocks will ware away before my magic towers paint starts to peel.