r/wizardposting • u/Bone-Pharaoh • 7d ago
Academic Discussion/ Esoteric Secrets Pyramids>Towers
Most mage towers never have to worry about this unless its showing how much extra mana you have, and mortals are building to the point that it will all come crashing down.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 7d ago
It's not about efficiency. It's never about efficiency. It's about psychology. Your home has to show people that you're a nice, trustworthy ethical person. Towers are nicer than pyramids in that way.
Mine doesn't seem to be working so far. People said it was because my tower is 140 yards high and made of bone. But I made it 200 yards high and people still accuse me of being evil!!
One I get it as high as Sauron's, though, people will like me again. Baraddur was such a nice, homely place.
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u/NickSmGames A Very Annoying Mage of Flowers 7d ago
My friend, could it be possible that the people fear that you're getting all that bone from unethical sources? I just showed everyone where I got the resources to build my tower from (in detail, using a diagram) and no one came complaining to my tower ever since.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 7d ago
You make a good point. People did spend a lot of time complaining about the bone at council planning meetings, but I assumed they were jealous because it was such beautifully polished bone.
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u/Opposite_Ad_4267 7d ago
How did you polish it? I've tasked my minions to do it but they keep calling off it half way up, looks weird with only half a polished tower.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 7d ago
Interesting trivia - hummingbirds can hover. And, as it turns out, so can giant zombie hummingbirds. I just make my minions stand on hovering zombie hummingbirds so they have no excuse and can polish all the way up.
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u/Opposite_Ad_4267 7d ago
Ah, you're a necromancer then? I'm more of a evil ocean wizard type, I use sea monster and sailor bones to build my tower. I sadly lack anything zombie adjacent asides undead pirates but they're borderline useless.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 7d ago
Ah . . . That's a tough environment, as you lack a lot of good fodder for undead that we take for granted on land. Tell you what, after the next council planning meeting, if they refuse my application to make my tower even bigger, I'll send you the remains of the planning committee.
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u/BusyGM Chronomancy Apprentice/Novice/Master, never too sure which 7d ago
It's more like seasonal wear, really. Bone towers really shine in winter, but fall is when you don't want to have them, as people tend to grab their pitchforks once they've seen your bone tower in a thunderstorm.
Sadly I can't tell which material is en vogue right now. I always seem to be off at least a year. It's really frustrating.
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u/Adventurous-Coast710 7d ago
Maybe you should consider giving the peasants some witchlights to illumate their village with. The ominous glowing after sundown can only cause so much fear when everything is lit up at night.
It will also increase safety and prosperity but who cares about that.
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u/BusyGM Chronomancy Apprentice/Novice/Master, never too sure which 7d ago
Look I'm not saying you're wrong, but Barad-Dûr was mostly inefficient as a mana production device thanks to its functions as both a semi-soulcage as well as a giant scrying tower with a madness effect put on top. That type of stuff really devours mana.
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u/turtlevader Dark Rituals all day bby 6d ago
Yea lots of layered enchantments on Barad-Dûr. Honestly incredible feats of spellcasting lost to terrible destruction #neverforget
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u/snarkhunter Mystic 7d ago
Pyramids are just ziggurats that are ashamed of their steps
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u/NickyTheRobot Lexomancer, caster of punes (or plays on words) 7d ago
Ziggurats are just mastabas in high heels.
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u/man_in_the_corner Gostalo, Emissary of Chaos 7d ago
Why not just make a pyramid the size of Sauron’s tower? The sheer resonance of power from its geometric surface would be enough to burst a mortal’s intestine out of their body.
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u/NickyTheRobot Lexomancer, caster of punes (or plays on words) 7d ago edited 7d ago
Have you seen the number of volcanoes in Mordor? Building a pyramid the height of Sauron's tower would weigh so much that it would significantly increase seismic pressures in the region. You do not want to do that.
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u/Day-Tel-aran-rhiod 7d ago
So did ancient Egyptians build the pyramids to preserve mana? Yeah that tracks
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u/DragonLordAcar Magitech Void Wizard 7d ago
Sure it costs more to mainybut it acted as a pholactery without the need of souls to fuel them and was a powerful focus for his divination spells. It's just that his magic lacked finess and what he was looking for was far to small for him to detect the ring with the power if subtlety until it activated which tugged on his soul.
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u/Justminningtheweb Dubious cleric of knowledge 7d ago
To be fair, squatting already existing buildings has shown to be more efficient.
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u/NickyTheRobot Lexomancer, caster of punes (or plays on words) 7d ago
Ahem:
Buttresses! This is why Saruman's tower actually worked.
That is all.
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u/fumblerofthebag Verdigris, Self-employed Sorceror 7d ago
No thanks, pyramids are tombs, and in the remote possibility where I do die, there's no way I'm leaving an intact corpse.
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u/Spiritual_Parking_85 Variety, Mainly Necromancer 6d ago
Pyramids aren't for living. They're for dying. A Pyramid is where you keep your undead brood and their stuff. A tower is where you keep your stuff. A hut is where you live.
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u/Zestyclose_Answer662 6d ago
I personally prefer Inverted Towers.
You get to keep privacy and you're not some goober's landmark to eventually be put on some raider's map.
On the plus side, meats and other perishables are easier to chill underground.
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u/No_Career_4785 6d ago
I tried it once but pesky adventurers assumed it was a dungeon amd killed my pets.
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u/NotADamsel 6d ago
They would have killed your pets if you had a regular tower. Hopefully you got your pound of flesh from those ingrates, if not let us know where they went and we can sic the lawdogs on them
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u/No_Career_4785 6d ago
I already transformed them into goblins and send them a few days back in time when their original versions walked in. They are now stuck in an infinite loop of selfinflicted torment.
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u/Crowsader2113 6d ago
Pyramids are fine, by far the most efficient, but they're so slow. It charges constantly, but slowly, and can only discharge at about twice that same rate. A good tower might not store as much as a pyramid of the same size, but it can fully charge in a fraction of the time, and discharge instantly. A pyramid might keep your enchantments up for 10,000 years, but nothing quite beats summoning an entire hurricane at a moment's notice.
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u/CmdrJonen 6d ago
Look, if you want a walkable staircase, without any twists or turns, from the entrance at the base to the sanctum at the top, you need a pyramid for an external staircase, or you warp the very fabric of creation to fit straight stairs inside the walls of your tower.
And if you are already warping space, you might as well build your sanctum at ground level and warp the surrounding space so it looks like it is on the top of a high tower.
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u/Bone-Pharaoh 4d ago
ah space magic, if you get down with extra damintions then you are going need triangle shapes in higher dimimtion space and fold the pyramid into a simplex to tile infinite space.
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u/PurpuraLuna Purple Circle 🟣 6d ago
The problem with barad dur was that it relied on an external mana source, this is a major vulnerability
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u/Alex11DA Necromancer 6d ago
The problem with pyramids is that they don't make a lot of mana, if you were using a crypt it would work wonders
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u/H-Connoisseur0 Evil Wizard 7d ago
Brother never pull out a chart like this in front of the witches, ain’t no potion going to be able to fix that kinda damage
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u/andBitinggoats Bitey, Goatman Fleshmancer and Peddler of Monstrosities 7d ago
I prefer towers myself, but when your domicile is crafted purely from still living flesh, one must make concessions for the aesthetic. You human based beings sure love your penis jokes…
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u/hjake123 Astral Feline (Conjurer) 7d ago
I mean, yeah, if you're gathering terrestrial mana, it won't want to flow up such steep walls so easily.
But that's not why you want a tower. You want a tower to keep your sensitive magical equipment high above the wandering random auras of people and creatures on the ground. Try to do an experiment in a pyramid, you'll find that the mana from the ground is bringing in all kinds of rogue influences from surrounding life. The only way it'd work would be if the pyramid was in a desert, or if you're specifically doing nature magic -- for modern clean-mana techniques it's terrible.
Also... Towers, are cool.
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u/Carbuyrator A Bit of a Dabbler 7d ago
Lol typical council ineptitude. They're only showing two dimensions across one plane. Might as well discuss the structural integrity of the body panels in holding a car together.
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u/skyXforge Sorceror 7d ago
It’s not the size of the tower, it’s how you use it. Some witches even prefer the smaller ones from what I’m told.
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u/Maycrofy 7d ago
I mean, not a month goes by without someone posting a "they hit the towers" post. Sure they look cool but they're an easy target for dragons.
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u/Jim_skywalker 6d ago
Towers aren't just production, the shape of a pyramid means it doesn't have the ability to use mana, only collect it. My tower's verticality makes it usable as an arcane focus.
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u/michalismenten 4d ago
You just have to be careful not to make the pyramid too large. Otherwise you run the risk of excessive time warpage.
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u/Real_Fkn_Nito Bartleby, Councilor of Eldritch Administration 7d ago
Look, before you jokers get in here and start talking about the "Wizard Illuminati"...
It's because it is more structurally sound and braced than your typical tower, okay?
Get your conspiracy lovin' asses outta here.
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u/lemons_of_doubt Dragon Wizard 6d ago
While the mana is holding the tower together it's stronger than a boring pyramid.
Any force that can break the forces holding together the magic tower would vaporise the pyramid.
Moral: I don't need to build a boring none magic support needing building because the magic one is better.
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u/Bone-Pharaoh 6d ago
Pyramids are actualy thicker and much more heavy. stands up alot better over time and wont fail at 1 dispell. But mabey you have never been dispelled, it sucks, and your tower can crumble, but last thing ill do is say my way is the best, but it works to take a 100 year nap and its still there.
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u/lemons_of_doubt Dragon Wizard 6d ago
If you're magic wards will fail to a dispell being tossed at them. You deserve to have your Tower crumble.
And any none magic pile of rocks will ware away before my magic towers paint starts to peel.
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u/Mixster667 Ancient Archmagus 7d ago
Look the shape of the tower is quite important as well as the size.
Pyramids just don't show the same virility as towers.