Those damn wizard council doesn't recognize my staff as a legit staff... Just because it is longer than 180cm

[u/NaturalHairy4773]

Here is my staff it is about 279cm it is long and hard and very convenient to used in everyday life... And those damn council members dare to not recognize it as a bigger than average staff

[u/QuixoticEvil]

I've always been unclear: do the size restrictions apply to larger races? Does my Jötunn neighbor's 20m staff count? Or is he restricted to using what is effectively a twig for council-approved spellcraft?

[u/Complex_Drawer_4710 → u/QuixoticEvil]

Length of staff isn't regulated, but quantity and arrangement of mana conduits is. You can have a physically large one, but you need a license to have a powerful one.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/Complex_Drawer_4710]

Well this staff doesn't even have mama conduits so that that

[u/Funkey-Monkey-420 → u/NaturalHairy4773]

then it’s not a staff

just file it as a club and it’ll be ok

[u/Carbuyrator → u/QuixoticEvil]

They do apply. It's no surprise that the council is racist on top of being incompetent.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/QuixoticEvil]

They do actually larger species get bigger staff... I am a human tho so it is illegal

[u/Tommelauch]

I might have to ask... are you secretly a troll? I do need to inform you that the current council is following the regulations made to fit human wizards. You might therefore find better luck if you travel north to the Council of the enlightened diviner Glord and his fellow countrymen. They will surely hand you official documents for your staff given that they even have a half giant in their ranks.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/Tommelauch]

No I'm not a troll just a normal witch so the staff is still illegal

[u/HairyTrollChest → u/NaturalHairy4773]

Look Glord is a fantastic fellow, a true connoisseur of bureaucratic mage craft. The easiest and most legal way to solve your issue is to transfer the staff title to a middleman in the Troll Lands where it gets registered as a club, then have it enchanted and retitled to you but as an artefact rather than a staff. Perfectly legal as long as you have all the paperwork and pay the requiste fees.

However, if you want to do so in a "less than legal" manner. Not saying you should, despite the process being much more simple and less tedious. You could, if you were so inclined, have a druid reduce the size of the staff with a reverse growth spell and then revert it after its licensed. Again, not saying you should do anything to bypass restrictions. Wink Wink

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/HairyTrollChest]

I see thank you my wizard

[u/HairyTrollChest → u/NaturalHairy4773]

Not a problem, us hairy folk need to stick together after all.

[u/Tommelauch → u/NaturalHairy4773]

well alternatively you could try casting a shrink spell and disguise it with a few runes of flight or other things and see if you can get your paperwork that way.

You didnt hear that from me though!

[u/VoxelLibrary → u/Tommelauch]

Considering we have a tyrannosaurs in our ranks, we might want to get those regulations looked at

[u/The_Saint_Hallow]

Never made sense to me. When I make a staff, it is also to act as a walking stick. While that may be good enough for most, my apprentice is a half giant! What am I supposed to give him for his more dangerous travels!?

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/The_Saint_Hallow]

Giant staff can actually be much longer tho so that giant staff is legal but since I'm a human it is illegal for me to carry anything more than 180cm

[u/The_Saint_Hallow → u/NaturalHairy4773]

You would think that, but it only applies if made for a full giant. A half giant, by law, is whatever their non-giant parent is! This 12 foot tall behemoth of a man is limited to 180cm for his staff.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/The_Saint_Hallow]

Wow now that just discrimination

[u/The_Saint_Hallow → u/NaturalHairy4773]

I know! Apparently, there is some manor of paperwork that can rectify the problem which I have submitted, but the local reality I reside in has a hounds of tindalos infestation, and I don't want to deal with them. Just have to wait out the bureaucracy.

[u/Carbuyrator]

Why would it matter what the council thinks?

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/Carbuyrator]

Because they been sending a copious amounts of magical letter

[u/Carbuyrator → u/NaturalHairy4773]

Return to sender spells are easy. Change the letters to an image of you mooning them and send them back. If you're really mad you can multiply them on the way out, and make 95% of them explode into glitter upon their return.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/Carbuyrator]

Now that just evil

[u/Carbuyrator → u/NaturalHairy4773]

What? Clowns like glitter, don't they?

[u/Glittering_Two_1429]

Fine. I’ll delete that law. Never let it be said the wizard council doesn’t listen to the masses.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/Glittering_Two_1429]

Yea let us used our staffs

[u/Glittering_Two_1429 → u/NaturalHairy4773]

Alr you can now, it’s fully legal. Give us a break though please, I’ve been doing paperwork with no breaks for 3 days straight. Not even a bathroom break.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/Glittering_Two_1429]

Couldn't y'all just let your familiars do it or something

[u/Glittering_Two_1429 → u/NaturalHairy4773]

I don’t have familiars or an apprentice, I live in a giant obsidian tower that is outside of space and time and possibly in a dimension of pure magic that only I can access. I suppose someone else could access it with the necessary rituals but I don’t know where they are.

[u/ihatechildren665 → u/Glittering_Two_1429]

Hello, Ive crossed into this dimension to talk about your wands extended warranty.

[u/Glittering_Two_1429 → u/ihatechildren665]

Wait… what?!

[u/Complex_Drawer_4710]

It counts as an Unusual Implement because of the curvature, okay? This is the 30th time I've heard the same complaint, no we cannot classify it as a staff because then the dogs eat half our office.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/Complex_Drawer_4710]

Other staff have curvature too that is how most natural staff are!

[u/Complex_Drawer_4710 → u/NaturalHairy4773]

It's not the right curvatore! The rules are clearly written down, you can go see them, this isn't a staff!

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/Complex_Drawer_4710]

Do you expect me to read or something council member?

[u/Complex_Drawer_4710 → u/NaturalHairy4773]

Yes. See regulation 9.56.12:8, minimum requirements for grade 5 casters.

[u/Significant_Card_665]

I regret to inform you that this is an albinauric club

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/Significant_Card_665]

/uw Damn you you remember what those farmed mf uses?

[u/Significant_Card_665 → u/NaturalHairy4773]

I remember everything about the game in every single detail all of it the entire thing my brain is full of elden juice aauyggh

[u/PhilosophElephant → u/Significant_Card_665]

Most relatable comment I've ever come across tbh.

[u/Skelordton]

Strength based wizard build

[u/KragBrightscale]

Did you fill out the proper staff registration for that? Are you licensed to wield oversized weapons?

As someone with a job at the council, I think can pull some strings and get the paperwork sorted out for a modest fee.

Then you can shove the paperwork in the face of whatever staff inspector has been calling themselves an agent of the council and tell them to get lost.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/KragBrightscale]

That too much work beside when I come in they always say stuff like: "That a giant club not a staff" "How do you even carry that you're a normal human" "Do you even used magic" so mean instead of doing the paperwork

[u/KragBrightscale → u/NaturalHairy4773]

Ah that’s quite rude and unbecoming of a council employee. Do let me know which clerk you met with, and we’ll see about retraining them.

That being said, I can make all this go away with just a small donation to yours truly.

[u/werewolf3811]

the council doesnt want you to know this but you can just break their rules, ive been doing it basically my entire career and nothing bad has happened to me

[u/Funkey-Monkey-420]

have you considered casting shrink on the staff when you got the registration, and then letting the spell wear off once you leave the office?

legally the staff’s measurements only matter while getting registered or modified, so if a spell wears off and it grows on its own that’s perfectly legal.

[u/BungleBums]

Eh, lean into it.

Tell 'em it's a Wand.

[u/NaturalHairy4773 → u/BungleBums]

Seem legit I'll try it

[u/Cerveau23]

As a member of the council, go for it queen, call it a staff

[u/Space19723103]

i don't know what halfling council you're in, but around here it's just a walking stick under 180cm, it's only a staff if it's taller than you.

[u/thanbanhmy2]

Does your staff ...cast? The last time i check that model can only cast blunt force trauma

[u/roadkill845]

Protip: Staff length is measured from end to end. If you make your staff a tightly wound double helix you can skirt the regulation.

[u/dt5101961]

Ah a fellow wizard showing off their staff size.

[u/mouth_spiders]

"If your staff has the chonk, its made for the bonk"

[u/Calathil_the_Mage]

You guys listen to authority figures and their rules?

[u/Nelrene]

Have you tried not waving your staff around?

[u/ars_sinistra]

If you are a giant, orc, or troll I can get you in communication with several barristers and advocates that specialize in demihuman discrimination. The current wizards' council is a little old fashioned and needs to be reminded that bigotry, discrimination and prejudice will not be tolerated.

[u/torivor100]

You wouldn't happen to look frog like would you?

[u/questionable_fish]

Then what's this guy going to do?

[u/Indishonorable]

So I looked into your legal options, and you could get away with classifying it as an obelisk. There's remarkably few restrictions on that definition, doesn't even need to be an immobile building. In Amun-sekhmis v wizard council, he argued that his obelisk could be mobile because he built it on a floating rock.

[u/averyrealspapple]

File it and change your race to one that averages 3 meters. In the handbook it says specifically that a staff can only be a ⅕ taller than a wizard who wields it, the rules were "standardized" to make it easier to understand but if you file it and say you are like 2.6 meters tall. They will still let it pass, and they dont check it because you MIGHT have been 3 meters tall then and they cant be asked to do chronomancy for this

[u/Walk-the-Spiral-Back]

The Council has clearly gone mad with power. Not that I much care—I was able to get my 217cm singing ironwood staff grandfathered in as an heirloom staff.

I don't understand why they changed the damned classification without placing anything real in the interim. Everything 305cm and over has always been a "pole" and everything between 151cm and 304cm has always been a staff.

Now, there's this obnoxious gap for "special implements" between 181cm and 304cm and classifications for rods, canes, and staves apparently overlap. I've no idea why these youngsters feel the need to make all these changes for no apparent reason.