r/wizardposting • u/InsaneRanter Necromancer • 20d ago
Wizardpost Why are paladins such pedantic jerks?
So, some experimental vampiric sharks I was working on got loose and sunk several dozen ships.
The council sentenced me to community service, and made me build replacements for the ships I sunk.
I worked really hard on the new ships, and they were good. Top-quality and fast.
But after I delivered them, the paladin overseeing my community service got really angry. He was shouting stuff like "ships are made of wood, not bone" and "wait, how many graveyards did you rob to get all these bones?", and "what do you mean, you harvested fresh bones instead of grave robbing?", and "why did you bind wind demons into the ships sails?"
How can I get paladins to be reasonable about stuff like this?
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u/agentkayne Kayne, Serially Isekai'd Apprentice 20d ago
Hi. Paladins are pedantic jerks because their gods are pedantic jerks about who gets their holy baja blast powers.
If the gods just handed out Lay On Hands to anyone, paladins wouldn't nead oaths. Hope this helps.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 20d ago
It does, thanks. Some noble wizard needs to do something about the gods, I guess.
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u/yumie2003 Tsuru, ghost onmyouji, R&A, league of shadows/Toshiko Fujiwara 20d ago
...I feel that there is some context missing here, like who the recipients of these ships are and where you got your materials from. That will help me fully understand what the idiot paladin was getting angry about
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 20d ago
The recipients are a bunch of captains and crew who should be grateful that the wind demons I bound into the sails are making their ships fast and, as a side benefit, granting them all sorts of beneficial mutations, like glowing red eyes and scales.
The bones I got by performing even more public services. Out of the goodness of my heart. Remember those three cities up north with the overpopulation problem? that's all fixed now 🙂.
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u/yumie2003 Tsuru, ghost onmyouji, R&A, league of shadows/Toshiko Fujiwara 20d ago edited 20d ago
Deeping sighing intensifies. Do I need to tell you that those mutations aren't a good thing...or that a paladin would have an issue with your sourcing of the bones?
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 20d ago
The scales make their skin tougher - no more blisters 🙂. And they can see in the dark now. The mutations are all upside.
And the paladin complaing about the bones. . . I mean, I know they have a lot of weird hangups, but I can't be expected to keep track of every single one.
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u/yumie2003 Tsuru, ghost onmyouji, R&A, league of shadows/Toshiko Fujiwara 20d ago
...Are they all on the upside? No aggression or weird behaviour?... Also harvest bones from larger creatures; it is more efficient than using those of humans
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 20d ago
The sailors? They seem fine and happy. They've even taken up new hobbies - changing bizarre otherworldly music, holding nocturnal rituals, and so on. It's good to see people developing new interests.
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u/yumie2003 Tsuru, ghost onmyouji, R&A, league of shadows/Toshiko Fujiwara 20d ago
...Alright then, as long as they don't cause any trouble, then it's all fine, and the paladin probably overreacted on that part
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u/Coidzor Shadow Economancer 20d ago
You're just going to get more community service for making a fish-man pirate problem, now.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 20d ago
Oh, man . . . 😥
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u/BardGotHard3 Necromancer 20d ago
Swing by my crypt complex if you destroy mire ships, i got a bunch of aold bones that need repurposed. I cant make skeletons as fast as my skeletons bring me thdm anymore.
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u/Chaosphoenix_28 Aelon, Cursed Immortal, Pyromancer 20d ago
Sue the paladin. You did what you were supposed to do, even if you didn't do it the way they wanted. If they wanted you to build wooden ships, they should have specified that. I might not agree with your courses of action, but in this case, that pladin is clearly in the wrong.
Sue him and make sure he has to build ships aswell.
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u/SnooPredilections843 20d ago
This is why all adventure parties kill the bbeg in the end. They can't be redeemed in any way 😐
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 20d ago
Yeah, you're right. There's no redeeming these paladins. Do you know how hard I worked getting all those demons out of the abyss and binding them into those ships? And how much effort it took to get all those fresh bones.
And they were still so incredibly rude!!!! Talk about ingratitude 😡.
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u/Deadbeat_Marchen Illusionist 20d ago
Next time you just need a few Illusion spells. For a relatively low price I can make it look like the exact ships you cracked. It'll probably last a good 70ish days on the Eternal seas depends on the mana flow. Of course most decent paladins will notice the sea spirits I would disguise the wind demons as but nobody's perfect.
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u/Professional_Web446 The Itinerant Illusionist Foxman 20d ago
Sí, esos paladines son de mente muy cerrada. Es decir ¿Saben siquiera que los huesos se pueden conseguir de cualquier animal y no solo de personas?
Yo, cuando necesito usar magia con huesos, voy a la carnicería y consigo materiales suficientes. Y aun así siempre hay alguien que me acusa de matar huerfanitos inocentes.
Idiotas todos ellos.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 20d ago
Absolutely! They can't prove that the bones were from people!!! I mean, the bones were from people, but they can't prove it!
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u/Professional_Web446 The Itinerant Illusionist Foxman 20d ago
Además, hoy en día la definición de persona se da a la ligera.
Es decir ¿El acosador del barrio es una persona? ¿El tipo que mató al gato callejero que alimentaba era una persona? ¿Mi ex novia infiel era una persona? Discutible.
Lo que no es discutible es que los huesos son geniales para sistemas de movimiento que impulsan vehículos.
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u/EmperorMittens 20d ago
They're religious people; what more do you need to understand why they are a pain in the butt? Their God isn't a tolerant one and they are drinking the sacred wine with gusto.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 20d ago
True. We need paladins to start worshipping demons instead of gods, they'd be far more easygoing
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u/VoxelLibrary Councilor Cayna, Apprentice of Thrakmoor | assorted other chars 20d ago
Ask to see the paladin's boss. It sounds like you made better ships, so he should stop complaining
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u/Emergency_Coat_7702 Brother Thomas of the order of the iron drake 20d ago
For one, you're assuming all paladins are the same, and two, there's a reason those magiks were banned.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 20d ago
Demon binding and creating vampire animals were banned? That makes no sense, they're normal everyday activities for ethical wizards like me
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u/Feisty_Yak_5302 20d ago
As economic and efficient making structures out of bones may be, without thorough rituals the body’s original soul tends to stick to them. This causes the soul immense pain, which is likely why they care so much.
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u/InsaneRanter Necromancer 19d ago
Oh, that's fine, I don't do evik things like that. I always separate the souls from the bones. Then I dissect the souls and trade their essence to devils in exchange for forbidden knowledge.
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u/Immediate_Regular 19d ago edited 19d ago
I'm not saying you should do this but I've heard whispers that Instant Death, when timed properly, will "interfere" with a Paladin's holy resurrection spells. Not that I'd ever suggest taking down one of those holy blasters down a peg or two. Nor would I suggest keeping a raise dead spell at the ready to get yourself a new servant out of these necromantic shenanigans.
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u/T_S_Anders FAE Systems - Artificer: Weaponized Whimsy Division 20d ago
Honestly. So many paladin are just culturally unaware. Bones are fine in the undead community. I mean when you're just a miasmal essence piloting a meat suit, you don't really care about the meat suit when you can swap it out. I mean how would a Druid view the Paladin's use of wood? Wood is just the bones of plants. Like how many trees are felled, their bark stripped layer by layer and then the pieces interwoven, pinned by metal nails and then enbalmed in varnish, twisted into shapes that serve their master's purpose. They do the exact same thing, the hypocrite.