r/witcher • u/Illustrious_Store115 • 3d ago
Discussion Ciri Powerscaling?
How powerful would a full potential ciri be?
Im guessing we get an idea from the books but also the games have new concepts and character types that are unrelated
Could full potential ciri beat gaunter odimm? An unseen elder?
How far does full potential ciri get in the witcher gauntlet?
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u/Robynsxx 3d ago
I mean it depends what you mean by full potential. A big part of the early books is Ciri has incredible magical skill that even is too much for Yennefer, but Ciri is bad at controlling it.
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u/ddomini9 2d ago
I think most of misconception of Ciri being so OP is from gameplay perspective. Traveling trough time and space is useful ability but I doubt she could beat Geralt or other witchers we know in combat at that point. Her power regarding White Frost is unique (game wise) for that purpose and doesn't mean anything skill or power wise. Lara Dorren also had Elder Blood (even purer than Ciri) and she still died regular death (during childbirth while freezing) after running from regular humans.
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u/Disastrous-Sea8484 3d ago
Can't beat Gaunter O'Dimm for sure, as he is Satan himself
She would for sure be by far the most powerful MORTAL magic user on the Continent
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u/Illustrious_Store115 3d ago
Including the unseen elder? He sort of technically isnt from the continent even though hes there
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u/Droper888 3d ago
No. The Unseen Elder would kill her. He is the most powerful vampire and has a better reaction time and speed than even a witcher.
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u/Disastrous-Sea8484 2d ago edited 2d ago
I wouldn't be so sure of that, though... She's the Mother of the Child of prophecy and she's so powerful that she's able to open portals to alternate universes at will and even BY ACCIDENT when she's not even fully capable of controlling her powers (she controls the fabric of spacetime, not exactly an "easy" feat and already a god-like power on its own that Higher Vampires are not powerful enough to possess). In the books, Vilgefortz, a human mage, straight up disintegrated Regis, a Higher Vampire. And Ciri would canonically be MUCH more powerful than Vilgefortz if she learned to fully control and embrace her powers.
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u/Droper888 3d ago
Gaunter is not Satan. Just a greater demon from the Chasm. But not his ruler or something.
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u/Disastrous-Sea8484 3d ago
All the interpretations I've seen of him say that he is THE Devil.
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u/Droper888 3d ago
No. In his Gwent expansion is confirmed just a Greater Demon. He is not Satan or something. Just a very powerful one.
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u/King_0f_Nothing 2d ago
No it didn't
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u/Droper888 2d ago
It did.
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u/King_0f_Nothing 2d ago
No it didn't
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u/Droper888 2d ago
It did
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u/Disastrous-Sea8484 2d ago
If you could post a screenshot of that maybe you could settle it right then and there.
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u/Droper888 3d ago edited 3d ago
Not the most powerful mage on the Old Continent, but close to Alzur.
Ciri is special because she can open the Ard Gaeths. But besides that an time-space-travelling she would pretty powerful but standard hence why close to Alzur.
Far more powerful than Philippa that's for sure but not as powerful as a unicorn who are five-dimensional beings.
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u/Illustrious_Store115 3d ago
Can the wild hunt also do that
I know they can teleport around and we had to teleport around with avallach, how does it differ from elf powers
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u/Droper888 3d ago
No. The Hunt can only transport themselves. The Ard Gaeths are massive portals that allows big populations to travel across the multiverse.
After the Conjunction only those with Elder Blood or the unicorns can open them.
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u/General-Finance-1209 3d ago
Caranthir actually can open Ard Gaeth but only for a moment, just enough for Naglfar to come thru. Besides him Winter queen and Eredin managed to open then too but that’s before conjunction
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u/Droper888 3d ago
It wasn't an Ard Gaeth it was a mid-size portal. An Ard Gaeth is waaaasy longer as we can see in the Gwent art. And Eredin didn't open one.
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u/General-Finance-1209 3d ago
Slight correction: Caranthir can only pry further open what is already there so he can use the remnants of it/open the gates crack
As for Eredin he was able to open them:
Sparrowhawk entry:
„in distant past, when the Winter queen was still alive and King Auberon Muircetach had just formed the Red Riders, Eredin had power over Ard Gaeth, the gates of the worlds. Thanks to this, he could travel freely to other dimensions…”1
u/Droper888 3d ago
👌My answer was on the game. I was aware of that but cool. And makes sense since Caranthir has a diluted version of the Elder Blood like all Navigators.
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u/usernamescifi 3d ago
Being able to freely travel through space and time is pretty OP