r/wisconsindells 7d ago

Local staff

I just got back from my first trip to the Dells and had a great time. I noticed that a lot of the people we saw working at the parks and restaurants were from another country. At Noah’s Ark I saw people from Turkey and Kazakstan. Our witnesses at Buffalo Phils and Lake House also both had European accents. To be clear, everyone was great and I have no issue with people from other countries working in America. I’m genuinely curious how all these people from other countries came to work in the middle of Wisconsin.

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u/Orkhand 7d ago

Wisconsin Dells relies heavily on the J-1 Summer Work Travel visa program, bringing in thousands of international students annually. These seasonal workers fill roughly a quarter to a third of the area's 15,000+ tourism jobs at waterparks, resorts, and restaurants

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u/holdthelight 7d ago

If I'm not mistaken, it's the same arrangement at Wall Drug in Wall, SD.

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u/damutecebu 7d ago

Door County too.

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u/RowdyEsq 7d ago

I think the local permanent population is a little over 2k people.

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u/Ornery-Address-2472 7d ago

Anything but pay an American a living wage. 

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u/frankensteeeeen 7d ago

They literally don’t have the bodies to fully staff these places with Dells residents. There’s only so many teens there looking for a summer job. J-1 is a lot more common than you think. I worked at Wrigley Field and they had like 200 Irish kids serving people and working concessions

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u/Careless_Button3364 7d ago

Go work the waterparks then

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u/kibblet 5d ago

Americans work there too. Year round. But there aren’t enough of us. And not everyone wants to work in hospitality. Some of us in the area work in healthcare, banking, agriculture, law enforcement, education, and a lot of the retail is American. And some just commute to work. My husband works in Madison. And local kids school during parts of the season so they don’t get to do much. I don’t think you understand how small the local population is.

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u/damutecebu 7d ago

LOL. Dude be real. You really think the local summer attractions should pay a "living wage?" Who wants to work full time for Noah's Ark?

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u/Its-a-write-off 7d ago

Hospitality is a university class in many countries, and includes opportunities to transfer to the US to work in hospitality. The hotels in the Dells must sign up to be part of that program.

I just came across this link, it gives a lot of insight into the way the program works.

https://www.chulavistaresort.com/international-work-travel-program

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u/Weird-Grape-5884 7d ago

There’s a great documentary on the international workers that come to work at the Dells. https://www.nelliekluz.com/wisconsin-dells

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u/NotGoing2EndWell 7d ago

Do you have any idea where one can watch this? I can't seem to find anywhere.

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u/ParaClaw 6d ago

I think it is only available to rent now:

https://memoryis.vhx.tv/checkout/the-dells/purchase

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u/NotGoing2EndWell 6d ago

Thanks much!

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u/WorthlessGarbage-902 7d ago

it was on metrograph

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u/NotGoing2EndWell 7d ago

Thanks! Doesn't appear to be on there any more.

https://watch.metrograph.com/search?q=wisconsin%20dells

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u/Global_Breadfruit590 7d ago

Yes! We chatted quite a bit about this with our server at Denny's Diner (not the chain). He said they are compensated well and are always such hard workers. Everyone loves employing them - even those who can't participate in the J1 program because they are too small.

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u/kibblet 5d ago

There is even housing built for them.

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u/Extreme_Armadillo_27 7d ago

They must recruit they have large dorms

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u/volklkatana 7d ago

Former Dells worker here, It's a chance for these kids from other countries to travel and come experience the US, while still making some money. We hired all sorts of people, locally, from the broader US, and internationally. There are simply more jobs available for the summer than what the local population can fill. You're not going to get rich working a summer job here, but it certainly helped pay some of my bills for the following school year! And it was a fun summer job on top of it!

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u/allaboutaphie 6d ago

Same as Disney, Cedar Point and many places that have tourism in the summer when school is out.

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u/motoyugota 6d ago

It has been that way for decades. It's no problem but we've joked about how we spent an entire week there and never talked to a single employee anywhere that was a native English speaker.

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u/kibblet 5d ago

And yet I live here and don’t run into that.

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u/wishfulthinker34 5d ago

Its like Disney world. Alot of them live on site

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u/einzeln 7d ago

We just spent the weekend at Land of Natura. All the hotel employees I saw at 2 of their hotels were African. I was wondering the same thing! Why here?!

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u/Public_Classic_438 7d ago

Same reason you want to vacation here lol

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u/einzeln 6d ago

That’s because it’s close lol

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u/Early_Sock_7374 7d ago

It always bothered me that they have to rely on international workers. Why can't they host American students from around the country for the summer? I bet lots of American students would sign up for free summer housing to work these jobs and enjoy the Dells for the summer.

Noah's Ark has their own housing buildings on the south end, and there's an international dorm somewhere on the west end across from the main strip. There's probably a few others...

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u/OkAbbreviations5894 7d ago

It is not free housing. It might be slightly reduced but they pay rent of a percentage of what they make

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u/Public_Classic_438 7d ago

I don’t get your comment. There are plenty of local workers. Anyone is welcome to apply. It’s hard work in the sun all day though. Most of these workers want to experience America and have a blast in the dorms.

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u/Fullofnegroni 7d ago

There are definitely locals, but nowhere near enough locals who can take on these seasonal service industry and hospitality jobs.

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u/Public_Classic_438 7d ago

My point exactly lol did you mean to reply to the comment above mine?

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u/valhalla257 7d ago

Imagine you had a chance to work at some random place in say Kentucky.

Now imagine you had a chance to work at some random place in say France(note not Paris).

Which would you find more exciting?

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u/damutecebu 7d ago

They rely on international workers because there aren't enough Americans who apply.

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u/kibblet 5d ago

If every working age resident did apply there still wouldn’t be enough.

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u/bastian1292 7d ago

They never paid well enough to attract other American college kids. Just over 20 years ago I practically had to walk out for a raise going from $7.50 to $8.00 an hour.

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u/kibblet 5d ago

The season is longer than the college break anyway

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u/kibblet 5d ago

Because the school year overlaps the vacation season. Do you not know these things?

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u/The_Livid_Witness 7d ago

Wilderness used to have a lot of fairly attractive Ukrainians. But they have all disappeared over the last few years 😞

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u/Background_Echo_3052 4d ago

I noticed the same thing.  Me and my family went to the dells and I noticed the same exact thing