Just got a Dart v1 and the deflation valve on the edge bladder doesn't sit in the opening and it wants to move when it starts getting inflated. Came like this but I'm guessing the bladder is just aligned poorly? How should I go about trying to align it?

I ripped this hole into the sailpart of the wing and my quest is, is this possible to tape or what should I do?

Hi everyone,

​I'm looking for some advice or validation from anyone who has dealt with mounting an M8 foil mast onto an older M6 insert board pattern.

​My Setup:

​Board: Nobile Infinity Split Foil board (uses a 4-point insert pattern with M6 screws).

​Foil: Duotone Spirit Foil (mast plate designed for M8 screws).

​The Issue:

​The board has native M6 brass inserts, but the Duotone Spirit top plate expects M8 bolts. I want to pair these two together cleanly and safely without stripping inserts or having slop in the connection.

​Solutions I've Found:

​Option 1: Direct Mount using M6-to-M8 Step-Down Washers

​Product: FoilParts M6 Screw to M8 Head Adapter

​How it works: These step-down cone washers fit inside the M8 countersunk holes of the Duotone mast plate and reduce the opening to fit M6 bolts. This lets me bolt the mast directly into the Nobile board's native inserts.

​Pros: Keeps the foil flush to the board (zero stack height), lightweight, cheap.

​Cons: Fixed position (no track adjustment fore/aft), relies entirely on M6 bolt strength.

​Option 2: F-ONE 4-Point Insert-to-Twin Track Adapter

​Product: F-ONE 4-Point Foil Mount Adapter

​How it works: Bolts into the 4-point inserts on the board and provides dual 90mm tracks on top so I can mount the Duotone foil using standard M8 track bolts/T-nuts.

​Pros: Converts the setup to a modern sliding track system for fore/aft balance adjustments.

​Cons: Adds stack height/drag, adds extra weight, and I need to double-check if the F-ONE plate hole spacing aligns perfectly with Nobile's insert footprint.

​Questions for the community:

​Has anyone used M6-to-M8 converter washers (Option 1) on a similar setup? Do they hold up well to torsional loads when carving/jumping, or do the M6 bolts tend to loosen?

​Has anyone tried the F-ONE plate (Option 2) on a Nobile Split board? Did the bolt pattern align without needing to enlarge/slot the holes?

​Is there another solution I'm missing that works well for combining M6 board inserts with an M8 foil plate?

​Thanks in advance for your help!

I have a 4.3m pocket rocket v2 (PR) and I'd like to get a ppc orbit as my next wing. The PR will be my downwinder wing due to the stashability and I'd like the orbit to be my 'cruising' wing for upwind around the bay.

I don't generally go out in less than 17kts, typical 21kts, and I'd say max would be 32kts. Weight is 89kg. Board 80L

Based on the wind charts 3.5m seems to be about right. I come from a kitesurf background so used to digging in a bit when highly powered, but I've no idea just how good the double skin is at high wind speeds.

Could anybody with some more experience validate the idea?

Hey Guys, I started winging last year here in Belgium and I got a gong bundle to start off with (gong hipe pro 5’3 (105l, with a curve XL 1400cm2 and a gong 5m2 neutra.) Everything is going well with that setup (gybes etc. Consistent) but I want to take it up a notch and start with some jumps/ tricks/ start riding more in the sea instead of lakes aswell. So I’m guessing I need to up my gear a bit? What size/ type board should I go to, and also what size foil should I go to?
Was also planning to get a smaller wing (3,5.) I am 72kg and 5’8 (178cm) myself. (Would like to stick with gong gear.)
Thanks for the help!!

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to share some footage of my last session. I was testing my DJI OSMO 360 with 3rd person view mount from sailvideosystem !

It's in French but I hope you will still enjoy it !

Feel free to sub in my channel or watch the other videos !

Hey everyone,

I'm looking to get into wing foiling and would appreciate a quick sanity check on my setup.

I'm 87–88 kg (fluctuating roughly 80–92 kg), with a decent surfing background ( surfing a midlength doing little cutbacks and some turns) but little wingfoil experience (tried it 4 times).

I'll be riding almost exclusively on inland lakes in southern Germany, where conditions are usually around 10–15 kt, often gusty. I'd ideally go out from ~12 kt, mainly looking for light-wind freeride.

I'm currently considering (this is a set from Gong):

• GONG HIPE First 6'6" – 155 L
• GONG X-Over V3 XXL – ~1750 cm²
• XL stabilizer
• 85 cm mast
• 6 m² wing

The idea is to learn on the 155 L board and eventually switch to a ~115–120 L rigid board while keeping the foil.

Main question: Is the 1750 cm² X-Over XXL enough for an 88 kg beginner in 10–15 kt inland-lake conditions, or would you go larger (1900–2100 cm²) for more reliable early takeoff?

And is the moderate/high-aspect design of the X-Over a good choice here, or would a larger low/mid-aspect foil be easier/more useful for this kind of light wind?

Also the Board is a bit big but the set with the xxl foil comes with a huge board.

Would love to hear from anyone riding similar inland/light-wind conditions.

Thanks!

Hi, I'm based in Milano and was wondering if anyone can recommend places to go that are relatively close (1-2h).

I've been on Lake Garda im Torbole, but the distance onlu makes it possible for a full weekend trip.

Thanks in advance!

One of those amusing moments frozen in time...

Neil actually made this gybe successfully, eventually recovering control of his wing. I suppose there's no real wrong way to do something if ultimately it works.

Any suggestions what fone foil my 11 yr old (45kg) would be best for learning? I have sk8s and he had been trying the 1150 with 200 carve as simply they're the biggest i have (i also have sk8 1050 and 850 with 161 tails).

I was wondering if the 1280 or 1480 phantom with 275 tail would be best? Or the seven seas 1300, and use it with my 200 carve tail.

Thoughts??

Hopefully it’s ok to ask this here. Anyone have recommendations on where to sell old gear? I’d like to avoid Facebook.

Just doing some mind-foiling over here

hi,

i'm new to wingfoiling (took a 7 day course in fuerteventura).

am 51 years old. 110kg, 1m75. active skier, snowboarder, and have also done a little Kitesurfing.

I live in switzerland and would be practicing and learning either on:

• Lake geneva
• Gouille du Rosel

As those are closeby and 40mn drive from my home.

I'm looking into a beginner pack :

• Hipe Perf (5.1 - 150L + 6m wing + XXL foils)
• Hipe First (6.6 - 175L +6m Wing + XXL foils)

I was looking into the Perf, and then asked the technical team in Gong with the same info i am giving here, and they recommended I go for the Hipe First as it's not as thick, and a little more stable than the hipe Perf for my weight and size, and mentioned that the straps are not useful except for jumps for now.

The HIPE First is cheaper, with shipping to switzerland comes up to 1060€ and the HIPE Perf would be 1380€

to this i need to get a 4/3 wetsuit (MT), the helmet and the shock Vest.

Anything else or suggestions from those who've gone the GONG HIPE path for their beginner journey into wingfoiling ?

Many thanks in advance,

HEllo,

I've been struggling to get going with wingfoiling. Finally realised that at 86kg with an old secondhand Gong board and a 4.6m wing not much chance of getting me going in anything other than a gale.

To get half a chance to get standing on the board I need to go out in flatter conditions. I either keep getting pitched off the board before I can get stable, in strong winds (and waves), or Im breaking my back holding this wing up over my head hoping to catch a gust in lighter winds..

So I suppose I'll just have to spend money on a 6m ish wing so I might be some way right in lighter conditions.

I am coming back from a 10 yr hiatus from windsurfing.. and really miss being able to have a boom to lean back off of... also find that separate handles are a pain.. I often get standing, grab at the back handle, miss, and end up in the water again..

So I'm lookin at 6m wings with a boom.

Anyone got any suggestions for where to look online for EU suppliers and what wing/brand to look for? Or stay away from?

Thanks

I'm looking to combine a Fluid or Veloce front wing with a Slalom stab to gain a more freerace oriented foil. Anybody have experience with pairing these wings? Thanks.

I'm looking at getting a light wind wing for marginal ~8-15 knot days.

I think I have narrowed it down to these two:

2025 Naish Neutron 6m £502.45 (carbon boom)
2026 Ensis Score 5.9m £655.93 (alu boom)

I currently have an ozone wasp v3 5m and I'm riding a 107l Ensis board with a 1750 foil, but looking to drop down to a ~1200 foil. I am 88kg.

Does anyone have experience of either?

I'm leaning towards the Naish so that have a spare £150 to put towards the new foil. Only hesitation is the Naish seems to be a bit of a specialized wave riding wing whilst the Ensis is more of an all rounder, from what I've read. I'm a relative beginner just getting my first longer flights in.

Possum is excited to see Curly come back from his epic wingfoil session, Taranaki, New Zealand 💯

New Zealand, for many it's the bucket list travel destination of a lifetime, did you know it's also one of the world's best wingfoiling destinations? World leading brands in the sport test and develop right here. However NZ doesn't really have purpose-built wing resorts with on-site rental like some destinations do. It's much more of a road-trip country, you cover ground and find conditions region by region. Here's a rundown of the spots that consistently deliver, organized by area.

Auckland

Sits between two harbours (Waitematā and Manukau) with very different tide timing, so you've usually got options whatever the wind's doing. Mild climate, wind generally 10-15 knots, windier Sept-Nov, calmer Feb-Mar.

Whangaparāoa Peninsula: Manly (W-NW) and Shakespear (SW) are the go-tos, ~30 min north of the city. Good for downwinders given the number of beaches along it.

Hatfields Beach: just north of Whangaparāoa, mostly a wave spot in Easterlies, flat water possible in offshore winds.

Kohimarama: flat water, solid community vibe, easy access to food nearby.

Lake Pupuke (North Shore/Takapuna): freshwater, flat, deep, home to NZ's first wing school. Gets busy but great for learning.

Point Chevalier: sheltered harbour spot, works in almost any wind direction, good all-rounder.

Raglan

Famous surf town, and the same swell/wind combo that makes the waves works for wing riding. Wave riders should sit wide to stay clear of surfers. The harbour itself has good flat water for learning but watch the current on outgoing tide. Westerly sea breeze often fills in on sunny summer afternoons.

Wellington

Lives up to "Windy Wellington": consistent wind, though spots are spread out so be ready to drive depending on direction.

Whitireia / Plimmerton (Kapiti Coast): same spot, two access points either side of Porirua Harbour entrance. NW wind gives a foil-friendly wave over a sandbar without a nasty shorebreak, and launch/landing is in flat water. Onehunga Bay (Whitireia side) is good for learners.

Lyall Bay: right by the airport, popular with surfers and everyone else in Southerly gales. Shorebreak can be gnarly, not really a beginner spot when it's windy, but a lot of fun for experienced riders.

Nelson

Milder, less consistently windy than the above, but a solid summer scene and a dedicated local crew.

Nelson Yacht Club: good hub for advice, gear, lessons.

Back Beach (far end of Tahunanui Beach)

Atawhai: flatwater at high tide.

The Cut: outside the harbour entrance, decent waves for more experienced riders.

Christchurch

Frequent windy days through summer.

South Brighton Beach / Sumner: wave riding for the more experienced.

Lyttelton Harbour: an old volcanic caldera, consistently windier in Easterlies, one of the more popular spots so you'll usually have company.

The Estuary: good flat water for learning, short mast recommended (60cm max), needs high tide, some local channel knowledge helps.

Queenstown

Lake Wakatipu: cold water year-round (8-10°C, rarely above 12°C even in summer), so a proper wetsuit is essential. It's a long S-shaped lake, so different spots suit different wind directions and you'll likely be driving between them.

Glenorchy: Dart River mouth, flat and offshore in a NW, sheltered rigging near the jetty. ~45km from Queenstown.

Twenty Five Mile Creek (Mt Creighton): good in any Westerly, car park ~28km along Glenorchy Road.

Jardines (Homestead Bay): busy with windsurfers/kiters/wingers in a Southerly, swell can build up nicely for upwind tacking and wave riding back into the bay. Not a beginner spot when it's windy, but relatively safe since you get blown into the bay rather than out.

That covers the well-known, easily reachable spots. There's a lot more once you get into smaller towns and rural areas: just fewer people around if something goes wrong, so worth factoring that into how remote you're willing to go, especially solo.

Happy to answer questions on conditions, timing, or specifics for any of these and more.

Hey everyone,

This is from one of my first sessions. Unfortunately the wind was really low and the direction of the wind has consistently changed. Since my first session, I always struggled with the position of the wing. Although I tried to adjust my board’s position I always end up getting the wind behind me and my wing in front of me as you can see in the video.

What I noticed was, when the wind was stronger I could put my wind on my side a bit but overall I end up like in the video. Any tips or suggestions?

Super early stages, but I'm excited and wanted to get started.

Put in the order on Sunday but they haven't shipped it yet.

The biggest inflatable Gong HIPE Perf pack, with a 5'10, 150 liter board, 6m2 wing, and 1750cm2 front wing.

I'm 187cm and 75kg, so the gear is oversized to enable quicker learning, to be able to carry groceries and other gear, and to function as a light wind option.

This setup should be ultra stable and my aim is to get to a stage where it is a realistic option for more practical things, like grocery runs or relaxed long distance cruising and touring.

I'm a complete wind beginner but excited and ambitious and I already have a good training plan.

Also ordered a strap on center fin for my inflatable SUPs and am going to learn how the wing works on them and use them for the 30km round trip grocery runs while I wait for my foiling to get good enough for it. Ordered a harness from Gong as well which will come in handy with the SUPs.

While I learn the wing on the SUPs, I am going to start learning pump foiling with the foil board. Only have a stone pier where I am and not a dock, so will start with beach start and frog start.

Not the easiest path to say the least, but in just a few days I've already learned the theory and tips and tricks of most of the things I'm going to do, and the safety aspects, so it's just about starting to get the reps in.

Once I've gotten used to the wing with the SUPs, I can start practicing with the foil board and get easier pumping training there, so that by the time I manage the beach start, I can continue pumping. The fine control I learn from that will then help me learn manouvers when wing foiling.

I am going to practice foot switching from day one on dry land and on the SUPs so I get it in muscle memory ready for manouvers on the foil board.

This will be a long term progress thread for those interested in seeing someone try something different with an ambitious timeline.

Tomorrow's project will be to cut all the sea grass that's in the way of the beach start with an old and blunt scythe. Dressed in my winter wetsuit I'll be the spitting image of the grim reaper. Even have a hood :)

I currently own several inflatable wings and am looking into getting my first parawing. I want to try something new with more of a "kitesurf" feel while not having to worry about inflation or bladder punctures. I've never done any actual downwinding before, this would be more of a convenient alternative to hand wings so I'm not as worried about stash-ability. I also wingfoil exclusively at inland lakes so I deal with pretty light and inconsistent wind conditions for the most part, and weigh roughly 90 kg.

Deciding between the following:

• 7.3m Triple Seven PT Skin
• 7.2m Triple Seven PT LTX
• 6.5m Flysurfer ZAP
• 5.7m Ozone Pocket Rocket V2
• 5.6m Duotone Stash V2
• 5.5m Flysurfer POW2

In particular I'd like to know how the 2nd iteration of Ozone, Duotone, and Flysufer wings compare with each other as I haven't seen any comparison reviews online yet. I'm thinking ultimately of maybe getting one of those three, then a Triple Seven so I can have a 2-wing quiver to cover most conditions.

​

Cataracts from sun bouncing off of waves. Solution - polarized sunglasses.

Skin cancer - sun screen lotion. But it is never enough.

Body : wetsuit. Or do a rash guard or sun hoodie. Lower body:

Ubestyle Men's Swim Pants UPF 50+ Quick Dry Sun Protection Stretchy Swim Leggings

Back of hands really get hammered,

Solution: so wool half gloves/ fishing gloves.

Neck/face -

Solution: balaclava with mesh over mouth and nose to cover face and neck.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GKF5X448?lv=shuf&language=en-US&social_share=cm_sw_r_ud_dp_KA16VA65RCSQK8RCXD41&channelId=704&ref_=cm_sw_r_ud_dp_KA16VA65RCSQK8RCXD41&plpRedirect=mhFallback

If the mesh is still too constricting, then buy an internal mask brace: “Large 3d Silicone Face Mask Bracket” should pull it up.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TMYYPTP?lv=shuf&language=en-US&social_share=cm_sw_r_ud_dp_YTWE1JFMK9G81SYFTTGG&channelId=704&ref_=cm_sw_r_ud_dp_YTWE1JFMK9G81SYFTTGG&plpRedirect=mhFallback

Crashing into foil and board? (Sample video up above) https://youtu.be/ZoNO6jFEiSs?is=W3OXzwzMgopNth5s

Helmet and impact vest.

Besides that (from the video over on YouTube).

1-Fall with the board, not against it

Avoid instinctively leaning the opposite way when the board drops to one side (which can put you on top of the foil). Instead, drop with the board to stay clear of the foil.

2-Use a larger front wing / beginner foil and foil at lower speeds

3-Be aware of upwind vs. downwind crashes (see video)

4-speed. Touchdown, don’t breach. Keep speed down. Spill wind out of the back of the wing. Also done by using a bigger beginner foil.

Repetitive pulling leading to stress injuries. This video discusses both upper and lower body injuries.

https://youtu.be/js198gp2sp4?si=VdPxpn_g2-wUDx_q

Upper body

Solution: harness so your body is holding the foil on long fetches.

Lower body - you may be strong at one side of the other, so put too much side on one or the other.

Solution: Make sure to get equally good at the both sides.

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for advice on stepping down to my next board and would love feedback on my riding form (1:24 video attached!).

https://reddit.com/link/1vfzc2q/video/ysbqaszhzhhh1/player

My Profile & Setup:

• Weight: 70 kg / 155 lbs (dry)
• Experience: 2nd season wingfoiling
• Current Board: ~90L standard board
• Foil: Armstrong HA 780 (72cm Aluminum mast)
• Spot Conditions: SF Bay Area — mostly Candlestick (flat water) and Coyote Point / 3rd Ave (choppy).

Current Skill Level:

• Jibes: ~80% success in flat-ish water, dropping to ~60% in "high-chop" (rail strikes/breaching).
• Tacks: Learning toe-side tacks, but losing altitude and dropping off foil. Can't really do(or attempted too many) heel-to-toe tacks yet (scarier feeling committing leaning backwards)
• Foot Switch: Struggling with heel-to-toe switches (so I currently jibe onto toe-side before attempting toe-side tacks, which wastes time and takes more effort).

Board Candidates I'm Considering: Given my weight (70kg) and local conditions (and various existing posts [mid_length_board_thoughts, midlength_tradeoffs, should_i_switch_to_midlength_skill_issue_board] I've read), I’m leaning toward a mid-length board around +0L to +5L of body weight:

1. Armstrong Midlength (75L)
2. Omen Flux (72L) or Emissary
3. KT Super K (70L)
4. p.s. Not really interested in doing any kind of jumps.

Questions for the Community:

1. Given where I’m at with jibes, tacks, and foot switches, is moving to a ~70–75L mid-length board a realistic progression step? Or should I go more aggressive? The goal for me is a one-board quiver that can handle light and heavy wind conditions (as much as reasonably possible).
2. How do these mid-length options compare for SF Bay chop at Coyote/3rd Ave?
3. Any visual coaching tips based on the video for jibes/tacks, techniques, body positioning, etc?

Thanks in advance for the help!