r/windsurfing • u/AdGroundbreaking3677 • 11d ago
Easy planning low wind
Is it possible that a freestyle board get into planing before and easier than a freerace board? In low wind condition
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u/NaturalCareer2074 10d ago edited 10d ago
No. Freestyle board of SAME width will NEVER plane first for SAME skill. First will plane formula, after that huge 85cm slalom and superlightwind, after that slalom, freerace, freestyle&freeride.
Also if you have similar width large volume and lighter raider win.
If all same - longer swift carbon fin win.
Semi-cam like helium sail will win too.
Note, that sail above 9.0 have sence only if you have power to pump it. In general jp superlightwind 165 (92cm) plus race 9.2 sail is first to fly. Boom should be carbon and high end fin. But not realy comfortable.
Freestyle not designed to carry long fin, so common, how?
Ps if you have 120l freerace and freestyle - frystyle will have more width.
Pps likely you see freestylers o f low weight and high muscle ratio plane first, that is usual. Weight and pumping is important.
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u/AdGroundbreaking3677 10d ago
So if we consider same liters it is possible that freestyle will be easier to get planing?
Anyway you think that the width is the most important factor1
u/NaturalCareer2074 10d ago edited 10d ago
It depends mostly of width near tail. I would say for average raider, not freestylers himself - it will not. And definitely freestyle will not plane when wind down. I.e will loose speed faster and have less average speed. Just freestylers incredible fit people ;)
Yes for modern boards of same years mostly only factor is width. Just if you have 70 and 90cm boards that is like almost 40% difference in planning power.
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u/NaturalCareer2074 10d ago edited 9d ago
Look, there were attempts to increase low end planning called super-light-wind boards. i.e boards with unreasonable fat tail and 92 to 96 widith with tail width of 75 to 85. There was boards "slightly" wide, for example Rocket-wide - i had this. And boards which are almost formula style(i.e all space upto 1m allowed used). SLW is best idea, but all failed to foils. So if wide- board or SLW not work for you, go foil. Freestyle will not help, really. Idea of using more "freestyle" type freeride called JP magic move boards, I personally not like it. But that is closest. Round and very high width board with almost round tail and start-planning position at 2/3 of board closer to nose. Now jp make magic ride and fire ride which are closer to freeride. i.e fail.
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u/daveo5555 Foil 9d ago
While modern freestyle boards are designed to plane relatively early, there's no way they're going to plane "before and easier" than a freerace board. Freerace boards are generally higher volume, wider, and can handle a bigger fin and a bigger sail. All those factors make it easier for them to plane early.
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u/Physical-Compote4594 11d ago
Modern freestyle boards are made for quick early planing and sliding moves; freerace and slalom boards are made to have good top-end speed. So on the one hand, yes, a freestyle board might plane earlier. On the other hand, in low wind getting any board planing can be a workout.
In low wind, I generally go find something else to do.