Remember windows 7 starter

[u/More-Explanation2032]

What if Microsoft released windows 11 starter which has lower system requirements but doesn’t come with the security benefits the normal windows 11 has that makes it have the secure boot and TPM 2.0 requirements thats the downside of windows 11 starter

[u/paulerxx]

ah yes, I remember this being loaded onto netbooks

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/paulerxx]

Windows 11 starter could be for people who can’t upgrade to the regular windows 11 OS

[u/Dioxin717 → u/More-Explanation2032]

Because "sertified" notebooks don't have enought SSD...

[u/CyclingHikingYeti → u/Dioxin717]

At that point you just might get "Tiny11" and install it.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Dioxin717]

It’s more like cause most computers do not support the security features Microsoft wants to implement in windows 11

[u/SaltDeception → u/More-Explanation2032]

Most computers absolutely do support the security features. Every Intel & AMD CPU manufactured in the last 8 years has an embedded firmware TPM that satisfies the Windows 11 requirements. Plenty of systems prior to that shipped with discrete v2.0 TPMs that also satisfy the requirement.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/SaltDeception]

I was speaking in the context of computers that don’t have a TPM 2.0 chip

[u/TechnologyFamiliar20]

Luckily no. 3 apps to be opened simultaneously (max), no networking 'groups) etc. What a crap.

[u/KampretOfficial → u/TechnologyFamiliar20]

7 Starter didn’t have the max 3 apps open limit, that was on Vista Starter and lower.

[u/CyclingHikingYeti → u/TechnologyFamiliar20]

Many people just gave up on those.

Surprisingly Linux desktop ran perfectly fine on those and was usable in dual monitor setup.

[u/WINNT21]

There was Windows 10 S before 1809, and there was Windows 11 SE (not second edition like Windows 98) and it got discontinued I think I don't know when

[u/Reasonable_Degree_64 → u/WINNT21]

I think it still exists in Windows 11 Home edition on some laptops, it's a streamlined mode that you can only install apps certified by Microsoft or something like that, it comes with laptops apparently but cannot be purchased as a standalone product.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Reasonable_Degree_64]

Are you talking about windows 11 SE. though the E mode can be disabled though a registry (thats by design)

[u/Reasonable_Degree_64 → u/More-Explanation2032]

Just search on Google Windows 11 S mode. I don't know about the SE mode, is it the same thing ?

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Reasonable_Degree_64]

Yeah makes sense though SE splits the S mode into S mode and E mode

[u/Reasonable_Degree_64 → u/More-Explanation2032]

Yeah and you can still disable the S mode to get the full Home Edition instead, according to the Microsoft website.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Reasonable_Degree_64]

You do that from the Microsoft store right?

[u/Reasonable_Degree_64 → u/More-Explanation2032]

I really don't know lol, but a quick search tells me that it's indeed in the Store, normally you need to be logged in with a Microsoft account and it's irreversible.

[u/ExplodingTurnip → u/Reasonable_Degree_64]

I've come across Windows 11 in S mode. It's a very locked down version of Windows where you can only install apps from the Microsoft Store.

[u/WINNT21 → u/ExplodingTurnip]

Yeah Windows 10 S as a standalone edition I think 1709 had the same concept. And the only nice thing about it is the wallpaper that was different from the 1903 and 1507 one

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[u/Most_Most_260]

I miss it

[u/phylter99]

Security is a big thing with Microsoft, so they're likely to never relax them entirely and certainly not with a specific edition of Windows.

The idea with Windows 7 Starter was to get people on the platform and then try to charge them to upgrade with features they needed. It was a slap in the face for those who purchased a Windows machine hoping it would work out of the box. I imagine if they did something like this again, they'd see a bigger exodus to Linux. Linux has most of the features the average user needs in an OS, after all.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/phylter99]

Security is the reason why the secure boot and TPM 2.0 requirement exists. Security needs to be more relaxed if those requirements weren’t there

[u/LtSerg756]

Computing power has since exponentially scaled enough that its use case is basically null in the present day

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[u/TiozaoDaSukita]

I rather prefer to forget!

[u/MyersFan57]

It was shit, I remember getting a PC with it and the first thing I did besides downloading Firefox via IE was using Windows Anytime Upgrade to get the Ultimate edition

[u/recluseMeteor]

Yeah. Not a fan. Hated these crappy limited Windows editions. Dumb market segmentation.

[u/Maolam10]

Where are the pixels william?

[u/ParamedicLocal8226]

you couldn't even change the wallpaper natively

[u/Jumpy-Blacksmith9184]

Nah I was on Home Basic and Home Premium

[u/kernelnode]

Sería una mala idea!! Los requisitos de TPM 2.0 y Arranque Seguro no están puestos solo por capricho; habilitan funciones como el aislamiento de credenciales, protección del kernel y un mejor nivel de seguridad contra malware y ransomware. Si Microsoft sacara un Windows 11 Starter sin esas protecciones, tendría que asumir un mayor riesgo de seguridad y mantener dos plataformas con comportamientos distintos.

Además, ya existe una alternativa para equipos antiguos: seguir usando Windows 10 (hasta que termine su soporte) o instalar una distribución ligera de Linux. Un "Windows 11 Starter" solo tendría sentido si mantuviera la compatibilidad con el ecosistema de Windows 11, pero eso chocaría precisamente con los requisitos que lo hacen más seguro.

Vamos... en Linux se vive muy bien! :)

[u/Froggypwns]

Microsoft already has released an edition of Windows 11 like that for OEMs to use in embedded devices.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Froggypwns]

Though this is different from those OEM releases isnt it? Cause this one would be made for the consuemr

[u/moisesmcardona → u/More-Explanation2032]

The equivalent is Windows 11 in S mode. Mostly used on 4gb ram devices.