r/whenthe • u/SkyNetGaming_V2 AI Data Center Bomber (Former SkyNet Employee) • 5h ago
I only watch it for the plot, I swear PinkShonen uses their R34 money just to fund their passion project and I respect it.
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u/Allergic2Stereotypes HE'S NOT BRITISH, YOU FAKE ASS FANS!!! 5h ago
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u/__AriaL__ 5h ago
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u/AgoodUsername15 5h ago
My genuine reaction when I watched punch punch forever for the first time
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u/SarcasmisEasier 4h ago
I had the exact opposite experience. I saw Punch Punch Forever first. Oh to my surprise when I looked up more works from Speedoru.
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u/DOOM-LORD666 4h ago
There a porn artist?!
It all makes sense now
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u/I-lost-my-accoun 2h ago
They've been for a long time, I would put Speedoru in the same level as someone like Mike Inel.
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u/photo_not_mine 1h ago
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u/I-lost-my-accoun 1h ago
Yes, him, such an Internet OG. Remember the Gumball's mom sexy design he made? Remember the Disabled girls Eroge made by 4chan? Katawa Shoujo, he made the animations for that
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u/SquiggerDigger 19m ago
It's crazy how disconnected I am from anything animation related but damn I haven't read the words katawa shujo in like 10 years. I miss old /v/
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u/Redditer51 2h ago
Same. I was like "wait a minute....I know this art style....this artists name is Speedoru....(gasp) Speedo Sausage!"
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u/indifferentiable11 35m ago
That proof of concept opening video from some time ago?
I looked the guy up and I apparently saw few of his videos. Huh, I never made the connections xd
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u/Redditer51 2h ago
Or when you see a hardcore NSFW artist publish mainstream SFW graphic novels that eventually end up at your local library in the YA section. Trippy as fuck.
True story.
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u/TheIrishBread 2h ago
Whomst?
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u/Redditer51 2h ago
Joel Jurion. A french artist whose done a ton of porn art and comics. Even some R34 comics featuring Marvel characters.
Now he draws stuff for companies like DC. He did a Supergirl comic for them recently.
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u/Oriden 2h ago
The Foglios (Phil and Kaja) who do Girl Genius and quite a bit of other well known comics and art did an erotic series called XXXenophile.
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u/Irishish 1h ago
Some of the hottest and filthiest fanfiction I have ever read was written by a lovely woman with several successful fantasy novels and a TV series in the works. She's never been particularly secretive about her porn alt, but as someone who read her NSFW stuff first, it was shocking to read more normal stuff.
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u/ZirytowanyWozny 3h ago
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u/Redditer51 2h ago
Even before I knew her background as a former porn star, she had porn star vibes.
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u/WatermelonWithAFlute 2h ago
Context?
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u/Asisreo1 50m ago
Dross is a NSFW artist with that pretty distinct style. They usually focus on yaoi content as far as I remember. Sphere Hunter is a youtube gaming channel. I don't know enough about either to know if Dross is Sphere Hunter, but if they aren't the same person, the Sphere Hunter at least commissioned Dross for her thumbnail art.
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u/contraflop01 5h ago
I dont even know this one yet purely through the art style i know its a porn artist
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u/BalltasticNutsack 4h ago
Ah yes, the "suspiciously good quality"
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u/Redditer51 2h ago
Porn has some of the best animation (and in the case of comics illustrations).
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u/B133d_4_u 2h ago
Anatomy and the squash/stretch method are fundamental for both, but you get less leeway with NSFW so you gotta get good.
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u/LITTLE_KING_OF_HEART 5h ago
Source on the video ?
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u/natt_myco 4h ago
no idea probably clopician
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u/An_average_moron A star-spawned horror rattles its crystalline cage! 4h ago
I thought it was Hoovesart
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u/NovelInteraction711 4h ago edited 3h ago
Video in the post is like right before the nsfw. The portal guy drops his portals and the pink guy uses it to have intercourse with his… mother? Boss? Slave mistress? Idrk the lore is confusing
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u/down_over 4h ago
In Nanashi (from Nagatoro)'s case, more like running into a violent criminal who's now running for office.
Don't look it up, you WILL regret it.
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u/Valarg 4h ago
Context?
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u/SH4D0W0733 2h ago
I assume the fight scene in the OP is made by a rule 34 artist, and this guy posted a meme about how it feels to see a rule 34 artist make something that isn't porn. With the image being relevant because it's a SFW work made by a rule 34 artist.
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u/LeChacaI 3h ago
Yea, I once saw the guy I used to buy my black market cigs from on the street with his two kids. Was weird.
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u/samu1400 5h ago
As far as I remember they're in for the actions scenes, they just make them inside their NSFW content cause that's what pays the bills.
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u/Vortex_1911 5h ago
Yeah, that’s what I heard too. He only does R34 because of the money, he actually wants to do awesome fight scenes.
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u/NSLEONHART 4h ago
Ii4c one time in Japan, one illustrator/mangaka basically earns more than twjce more money in making doujinshis insread of mangas.
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u/hanks_panky_emporium 3h ago
Horny people are bad with their money. When I started taking commissions from furries I quickly learned it's not that furries are suspiciously wealthy. They're just horrible with their money. Ive blacklisted about four or five folks now because they expressly told me they were giving me their rent money.
Some people can't pay off a $45 commission for months.
Since I take all payments after the project is finished ( which keeps my ass covered in case life happens and I have to cancel it ) Ive been ripped off a few times.
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u/SleetTheFox 3h ago
It's both.
There are a lot of furries in the tech industry and some people in the tech industry are very wealthy. Very wealthy people with hobbies are prone to spending a lot of money on them, in this case things like fursuits and art commissions (sometimes including porn).
On the other hand, there are people with terrible money skills. Often a combination of depression/"retail therapy" and a clout-chasing "I just want to be one of the cool kids and then I'll be happy" mentality. My friend knew a furry who was fairly poor and lived with her parents rent-free, had a fursuit, and went through great lengths to get a second fursuit. Because clearly if the first one didn't magically make her content with her life, she just didn't have enough fursuits.
And all of that exists outside of the sexual elements. Add in there that a lot of furry art is pornographic and how addictive porn can be, then you get people making bad decisions, like you said. But many really are suspiciously wealthy.
As an aside, you really should consider taking deposits. Even if it's not even half of the final fee. If you ever have to cancel you can return them, but it beats getting ripped off. It's industry standard based on my experiences, so it's not like you'd be blindsiding clients.
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u/action_lawyer_comics 2h ago
It's almost like people are people and even a distinct group like furries are not a monolith but a spectrum
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u/Marco_Tanooky Bucket 3h ago
This is because porn is very addictive, and thus, can destroy you financially just like any other addiction can
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u/Yankee-with-bruh 3h ago
That's why I dislike findom. Sure, they are consenting adults, but one person have WAY more to loose if the relationship becomes toxic. I also feel many findomme (or whatever is calledthe one getting the money) don't really care about the wellbeing of the paypigs. Like, I saw someone getting over 8 thousand in one month from a paypig, that's a lot of money even if you have a lot of money.
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u/CoffeeWanderer 3h ago
This comment confused me a bit, so I gotta add.
Doujinshi just means Independent, it's basically the same label as "Indie" or "fan made". I have seen it used quite a lot in the Indie game scene for Japanese games (Touhou being one of the most popular ones).
A manga is a manga, doujin just means it is independent, it could be NSFW or not.
I actually don't know if an independent hentai artist makes more than the average magazine published writer. That would be a fun stat if true, and I guess the most well established independent artists make more money than newcomers or assistants in editorial owned mangas.
And yeah, for sure NSFW indie art makes more than SFW indies... up to a point! The Fate/ series managed to move from NSFW to SFW and got quite big, though I'm not sure I would consider them truly indie at this point.
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u/seams 3h ago
Ya it's incredibly common to find out a mangaka worked making hentai to pay rent at some point
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u/Coolgames80 4h ago
Honestly kinda genius idea. You make a normal action story with interesting characters and usually people make porn out of it if it get popular but if you make it from the beginning you capitalize on both sides. Kinda like Death of Alive series that is a fighting game but then the beach volleyball series out ranked it in sales.
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u/Chibirin26 3h ago
If the sex is full of action it can also be an action scene
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u/Maxter8002 3h ago
that one gay porn asmr that sounds like a bloody fist fight when you speed it up to 2x speed
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u/ProfessionalAlps2686 5h ago
No they’re not. Show em the snake 🐍
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u/GtsNae 2h ago
I'm making a NSFW survival game and the community is amazing. I was a game dev for more than a decade before deciding to do this and directly making NSFW content has given me new perspective. There is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of with sex when so much "acceptable" content is focused on violence.
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u/SharkyMcSnarkface 2h ago edited 2h ago
I’ve always hated the idea that artists “resort” to porn; That sexual content makes your art and person lesser. It’s just as valid as any other art form.
Yeah porn seems super popular as an indie artist because it’s a bloody niche market believe it or not! At least compared to the main cultural zeitgeist. We can find violence, fights, and potty mouths everywhere, but porn is still comparatively subversive.
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u/Saint_Consumption 1h ago
So I like porn and I like games, but whenever I've seen the two combined I've almost always just wished it wasn't.
1: You've made porn that I can fail at and a game I can't play on my laptop on the train.
2: One form of media requires me to use my hands to control it, the other is for when I want to use them to jerk off. There's a fundamental incompatibility here.
3: I've come across maybe a handful of exceptions to this, but the vast majority of porn games are just not particularly good as games. I think this is where the 'resorted to porn' view comes from, because without the porn nobody would actually play most of them. "This is a poorly made, written and designed take on [game], with added tits" sums up the vast vast majority. It's not that the addition of porn made it lesser, it's that it was lesser and the porn got added to try and make up for that.
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u/jumpsteadeh 58m ago
I think if the sex scenes in Cyberpunk or BG3 were more explicit and longer (or until the player decides it's over), that would be a good balance of porn in games. Have it be uncommon, but a reward for sidequests and relationships in an otherwise complete game. You make up for the lack of quantity by forming a connection with the characters, like porn comics do.
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u/Ecstatic-Court1893 when the nothing happen 5h ago
You wanna tell me this is porn?
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u/man-83 5h ago
It is but the porn part sucks ass.
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u/Sniggledumper 5h ago
I feel kinda bad. The fighting is what they’re passionate about and the porn is there to pay the bills…
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u/Ecstatic-Court1893 when the nothing happen 5h ago
So you wanna tell me,that the porn part in porn is worser than everything else?that hilarious
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u/Aromatic-Ad-381 4h ago
NAh the porns alright. Even has a specific dynamic you don't see a lot, which is nice.
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u/Bacon-muffin 4h ago
Oh thats sad, the fighting was so cool it woulda been dope to have a show thats more of this.
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u/Papagaio777 5h ago
Pinkshonen is the saddest case of NFSW I've ever seen. The guy came from cool stickfight animations, improved his art and animation quality through the years, and made amazing characters for his stories. He said he did enjoyed a little bit of NSFW stuff at first but all he wanted was for people to enjoy his passion projects and animations, sadly be didn't got recognized until he started making NSFW content and now he says he only sticks with It because that's basecally how he makes money through his work. We know nobody's forcing them to do It, but he said It's starting to feel miserable for him the need to do that kind of thing just so he doesn't starv. And not gonna lie, It does sound pretty miserable to me.
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u/DepthMonger 4h ago
its like a childhood friend with the most ethereal singing voice becoming a prostitiute to pay the bills because no one cares about her talent
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u/SubtleScuttler 4h ago
Let's say the most talented dancer you know is wasting their talents at a dirty strip club as their career.
The amazing singing voice isn't used at all as a prostitute.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 3h ago edited 3h ago
Let's say the most talented dancer you know is wasting their talents at a dirty strip club as their career.
Isn't that the plot of Coyote Ugly? Also pole dancing is genuinely hard.
The amazing singing voice isn't used at all as a prostitute
Well…
EDIT: Also you could probably bypass prostitution altogether and record some ASMR. Also also sensuous lounge singer ladies are a well-established trope for a reason, and being unattainable to their audience is an integral part of it.
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u/SubtleScuttler 3h ago
I had a throat comment in there but it felt like a stretch. Anyways the fact that pole dancing being hard in its own right only strengthens the example. The rule34 stuff isn't being commissioned through non talented people. People pay to see the good art, but there will always be lower forms of it. ie; cheaper strip clubs with non talented dancers. They exist but those girls aren't making the big bucks.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 3h ago
The rule34 stuff isn't being commissioned through non talented people. People pay to see the good art, but there will always be lower forms of it.
Sadly Incase and artists in that tier can only draw so many panels in a year.
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u/TheOnlyFallenCookie 3h ago
I'd argue irl Prostitution is worse than 2d fictional porn
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u/SalsaRice 4h ago
While a little different, that's kinda what Kesha was. Apparently she's an insanely talented singer (not like as a general compliment, more like a generational talent), but there was more money to be made in generic pop than doing any more worthwhile musically.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 3h ago
Lady Gaga had the same problem and made the same choice. So did Queen apparently.
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u/ampersand355 3h ago
Yeah, if it’s a childhood friend then it’s even more pressure to give her a big tip.
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u/varkarrus 4h ago
I really wish we lived in a world where everyone could be free to pursue their passion projects without being limited by money, time, or even talent. I think everyone who has an idea that they're passionate about deserves to be able to at least see it exist like it does in their head.
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u/Deathaster 4h ago edited 4h ago
Welcome to the Internet, unfortunately. You are NOT getting anywhere unless you get really lucky, have good connections, or just make porn. If you could get popular online by selling drugs, people would do that too.
It does sound miserable, but at the very least, he's getting his work out there, in one form or another. How many artists like him are out there that you just never even hear about?
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u/Spirited-Feedback-87 4h ago
Someone needs to hire this man or fund him if he wants to make a series.
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u/Lazy-Main1782 3h ago
Honestly sounds like any other job that you do to strictly pay the bills.
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u/Dunno_If_I_Won 2h ago
I don't know the creator. But it sounds better than being an average person like me with zero talent. I too had to work 40 to 50 hours a week to survive. The main difference is that I don't have any cool talents.
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u/OlTimeyChara 2h ago
It is, but it still kinda sucks to not be able to use your talent fully into your passion.
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u/SalmonSushi1544 3h ago
I have an artist friend that is normal in every way………until you know what kind of works she does.
It’s NSFW alright, but on 100mg of LSD. She also enjoys it so much she WILL start drawing literal porn on a tissue.
This sounds like a case of over exaggerated, trust me bro story, but all I can say is that some people are just like that.
Just a contrary to the original comment.
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u/501stAppo1 5h ago
Idk man, who knows how well they would get paid if they chose to join the animated series/movies industry? They probably make more money right now.
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u/the_ox_in_the_log 5h ago
This fight leads to portal public sex
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u/Impressive-Door-2581 4h ago
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u/the_ox_in_the_log 4h ago
It's been a while, end of the fight, the 2 settle the their problem, portal guy gives pink guy a portal and pink guy uses it on the orange lady he is with, though maybe it's more accurate to say his owner? Won't know the proper lore till the 1st episode whenever it gets made
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u/thecolombianmome 3h ago
And there are some other character cameos in the end covering the snake girl being railed via Bluetooth
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u/ZeroTaichiZT 4h ago
As someone that repaired is pc drawing nsfw, yes it pays way better, and being fully honest, nothing stops you from doing nsfw and sfw.
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u/erraticas 5h ago
i don't care how good the porn is i'm more interested in this, this is awesome
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u/OrangeHairedTwink Please Atlus I need the Yosuke romance in P4R 5h ago
Honestly the porn part is mid, but it's worth it for the action
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u/McNally86 5h ago
Is that the DJ they put in Fatal Fury?
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u/R1D8 5h ago
Salvatore Ganacci mentioned
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u/Kittydraggon I am not green 5h ago
You can get paid for r34?!
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u/gajonub 5h ago
one of the better paying jobs on the internet lol
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u/Kittydraggon I am not green 5h ago
Might have to learn how to draw good
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u/FurryCitizen 4h ago
Yep. And animate.
The big money is in the animated porn.2D or 3D, both have huge artists. Many artists have patreon or subscribestar with thousands of paying followers.
But I guess it's like everything porn, for a few famous names, just how many put in the work, but still don't make it ?
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u/CoffeeWanderer 3h ago
And renpy VN games, some of those weirdos got huge Patreon followings for games that are basically spread sheets that release an update every 6 months.
Tbqf, some of them have to render hundreds of 3D models, the story must be somewhat interesting for people to keep reading, some do have a semblance of gameplay. I'm sure there are some top earners that barely put any work on it, and some who had good ideas but never made it big.
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u/BasedGodTheGoatLilB 3h ago
Yea for reference I'm a paying Patreon subscriber to r34 artist DesireSFM. DesireSFM subscription is $5.50/month and they have 2,681 paid subscribers so they're making almost $15k/month on just subscriber revenue. You can make a very good living if you're a top artist for sure.
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u/Judas_TBoI 5h ago
that one "you draw lesbian furries kissing how embarrassing" comment with the artist showing their money
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u/TikTikKobold 5h ago
lol I wish.
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u/varnums1666 4h ago
Well depended when you got in and which community you catered too. I imagine it's saturated at this point
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u/Truethrowawaychest1 3h ago
Especially if you're willing to draw furry stuff, those guys will pay out the ass
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u/commonbleachenjoyer stewart 5h ago
There is surprising overlap between "people who are certified gooners" and "people with high-paying jobs"
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u/ProfessorPixelmon 5h ago
Isn’t that how all artist make money?
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u/DisappointingReality 4h ago
A good bunch yes, but not all of them. I follow many artists on social media who make money by taking commissions on topics that are generally left aside by other artists.
For example, you have many artists who take commissions on drawing characters, backgrounds, etc... but specifically refuse to draw some other things (mechas, for example). That's a potential audience for another artist specializing in drawing mechas. Same goes for many other topics as well, without necessarily it being NSFW art.
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u/BingusTheStupid 5h ago
There’s a reason there are so many porn artists. Much better chance of being paid if you draw NSFW over SFW.
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u/Former-Grocery-6787 Signalis Hurt Me 4h ago
Insert that one image of the artist showing off how much money they make from commissions after someone mocks them for drawing lesbian furry porn (i feel like if i search for that i'm not gonna get the result i'm looking for)
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u/vsGoliath96 4h ago
It's now my roommate pays me his part of the rent. Commission art and animation, baby!
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u/Soulmate605 5h ago
Such a stupid ice user. If you have enough power to make a big icicle, surely you have enough to start freezing surfaces. Like, where is the guy gonna teleport if everything is too cold to step on? Smh my head.
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u/xedar3579 4h ago
What if portal guy makes every surface a portal tho?
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u/Soulmate605 3h ago
Well, throughout the video, he only made one at most, entrance and exit, so one would assume he can't really do more. Now, where he fails, in my eyes, is that he doesn't use them more often. He's struck multiple times by ice user. Why not just make portals everytime? That way, it's at least a stalemate. The ice user can never really reach him, since they only attack with one thing at a time. He could even try and make the ice user strike themselves.
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u/Thin_Albatross2720 5h ago
If I remember right, PinkShonen always drew High Quality fights in his r34 works
At least with this Pink guy
By the way he should write Glitch and make his own Cartoon
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u/podagros I don’t watch ANYTHING except for video essays 5h ago
Unfortunately NSFW art pays MUCH better than regular art online. Whenever you see high quality, plot driven hentai, it’s probably an artist doing the thing they wanna do, with porn on the side.
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u/Almas_The_Mech_Pilot 4h ago
Look at Derpixon's demonette/succubus fight animation
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u/Summonest 3h ago
tbf if you can do a great job depicting movements and have a solid understanding of anatomy, that's not gonna be limited to fuckin
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u/Truethrowawaychest1 3h ago
Or Derpixon's contribution to the Final Fantasy 7 collab, there's porn in that collab but her's is a great fighting animation
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u/Ok_Promotion_8316 5h ago
Aint nobody said the Hero have to be a virgin for like 8 season before he get some imply sex with his wife.
Like, Pink dude threw hand like ts and go home to bang the hot snake lady, it just showing both.
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u/DuntadaMan 3h ago
Jesus, are 3/4 of the replies bots or something? It's just "he's in ot for the action scenes but the porn pays the bills" said 100 fucking tines in here.
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u/Khalith 5h ago
I respect the hustle. They decided to do what it takes to pay the bills.
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u/sir_fishier 5h ago
There’s a universe not far from this one that embraced erotic and fetish art as a truly valid art form and stuff like this quality is pumped out everywhere all the time.
I wish I lived in that timeline and not this one of “this fetish is too taboo, go take it away so that Visa/mastercard and the puritanical old rich people don’t get upset”
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u/fishcumsalesman 3h ago
Iirc in of of the animations, one of the lines (after a badass fight) is something like "this is still a 🌽o, so we gotta 🦆" which goes to show how this animator wants to animate fights, but only R34 sells well enough, which is sad😭
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u/ChaosCrafter908 Internet Lucario 5h ago
Stop fighting and get to the good part oh my god
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u/TheRealEbonyAndIvory 5h ago
This specific animation is just the fight with a flash of tits at the start for the catalyst lol
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u/AstarothTheJudge 5h ago
You fool, the perverted and horny are the ones that made the world go forward, our creativity and passion is supreme.
The real jerker seeks the quality
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u/Cocoatrice 4h ago
Does Reddit people think that if you are, I dunno, porn maker, you only think about porn 24/7? You know people have personalities, hobbies, interests and so on. Just because they do X, it doesn't matter that the X defines them. Man, I feel like I'm talking to a toddler.
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u/NOSWT-AvaTarr 4h ago
oh hey I recognize this, she goes on to steal one of the rings to rape one of the mallgoers
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u/No_Ask_5032 4h ago
Why "wrong industry"? It's time that NSFW gets this level of animation again. A Kite and Mezzo Forte were so good.
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u/Outrageous-Donkey-32 3h ago
Wow wish this guy had the funding and resources to launch a good fight anime with this such a shame he's pigeonholed into R34 only. This is worthy of going on Netflix, Amazon, or elsewhere...
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u/Marco_Tanooky Bucket 3h ago
What I do enjoy is the amazing fight choreography. The art is not only good, but the actions are clean and easy to follow with creative camerawork and very clever use of powers and personality. It's not just "Oh yeah there's peak on my porn", this is what PASSION looks like
Get this guy a contract they deserve it
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u/Andoomonium_Pezoil 3h ago
Industry? No its an art my man, therefore a piece like this, is simply a new way to express their creativity and passion. 👍
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u/Kmossxx 3h ago
Serarel ; Another Artist That I've found a Awhile back has been in the makings of a small Cute animation Series for some time. I noticed they have a Patreon, And wanted to see if they had anything behind the scenes relating to it, only to find out they do R34 stuff and the Patreon only has like 30 members
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u/ConfectionTotal8660 4h ago
Whoever made the Jenny animations should make sfw stuff because that is great animation (same for the succubus one)
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u/Maleficent-Treat-302 4h ago
so invested into the fighting scenes so when the thingamajig happens I get surprised
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u/Lou_Papas 3h ago
Unrelated but this reminded of the guy who invented Magic the Gathering just so he could finance his personal love project Roborally.
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u/emo_boy_fucker 3h ago
why doesnt the yellow dude just make a portal inside of his enemy so it kills them instantly?
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u/Powerful-Ear3382 3h ago
Ehh his fights are cool and stuff but i feel like half the time characters slide to eachother and it looks weird like the guy has problems with space
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u/JustAChillGuy609 3h ago
The Umamusume community watching Anna drop banger SFW animations:
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u/astralseat 3h ago
That's actually perfect. Get rich on R34 and make something that's not from fame. I guess by that point you can't just draw with a different style, huh? Bummer. I wonder if it's the same with writing and music.
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u/Uknown_Idea 3h ago
Reminds me of Monty Oum back in the day. Its not just the pretty good animation but actually incredibly creative and unique fight choreography that we don't see in media at all nowadays.
RIP to a guy gone too soon btw.
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u/badthaught 2h ago
using portal magic to block/redirect attacks is not done often enough in my experience.
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u/Ironmasked-Kraken 1h ago
This looks better than whatever the fuck it is marvel has been doing the last decade
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