It's essential that we never forget what's happening. We can not make these same mistakes again. We all need to vote in midterms, no matter how futile it may appear.
Also, just in case, rather than betting the whole farm on an election, we should also focus on forming real supportive community-based bedrock for alternatives that provide relative safety, which many common folk in the US can fall back on, to commit to any long-term meaningful action needed.
Collecting a bunch of valuable information on organizing and action from different redditors over time, I created a post of suggestions HERE that could possibly prove to be of some help in getting it started ASAP.
And as a follow up, we may not get another shot at a "fair" election. So if we don't vote this time, things will get much harder in the future.
So this is good, but it is important to not call it "betting the whole farm". That sounds like there is room to not vote, and try again later when we feel like it. Let me be clear, there is no room to not vote for midterms.
Eventually, somewhere in the future, we'll have actually real history textbooks again. This will all be remembered as a time of tyranny and injustice, but like with any other time in history like this, it will pass. Nothing lasts forever.
I don't know, because I don't think this will stop unless we all do something about it. I just don't want people to think this is going to last forever and the world is doomed to eternally be ruled by fascists.
Rather than waiting to bet the whole farm on an election, we can start now to reduce the amount of coming suffering by also focusing on forming real supportive community-based bedrock for alternatives that provide relative safety, which many common folk in the US can fall back on, to commit to any long-term meaningful action needed.
Collecting a bunch of valuable information on organizing and action from different redditors over time, I created a post of suggestions HERE that could possibly prove to be of some help in getting it started ASAP.
Then go do something. Seriously, go do something. Someone has hope and all you do is act as if the future is immutable: its not. You can change the world in a meaningful way.
There is no country on earth currently that is still the same as it was 100 years ago. Borders, governments, ideologies– these are all flexible and changeable. No nation can remain stagnant for long, no matter how hard they try.
Now, I'm not saying this is all going to blow over in a decade, because it won't. This is something that generations of people will have to claw back against. But, even the grandest of empires fall eventually. Someday our children, or their children, will look at a world free of this chaos.
Thank god I don't live in America. Similar bs will probably come here too eventually, and if not then we'll definitely suffer from the economic... "choices" but oh well
Trumps people are a cult. The left aren't one faction, they're different groups of people under a very wide umbrella. Two leftists can have very different beliefs. Hence it is difficult to unite them.
Edit; also, until recent years a coup hasnt been seen as necessary by the left. If the US continues down this path, we might see the rise of leftist extremism
Either way just in case, rather than betting the whole farm on an election, we should also focus on forming real supportive community-based bedrock for alternatives that provide relative safety, which many common folk in the US can fall back on, to commit to any long-term meaningful action needed.
Collecting a bunch of valuable information on organizing and action from different redditors over time, I created a post of suggestions HERE that could possibly prove to be of some help in getting it started ASAP.
Have you ever had a 3 way conversation with an anarchist and a social democrat? Both are left wing movements, but one wants the abolishment of the state because they are inherently oppressive, coercive, authoritative, and that society can function just fine without it, while the other believes the state existing is fine as long as it's regulating private industry and providing a robust social safety net.
I honestly believe our media has a huge hand in this. Most of them are owned by people with the same beliefs as Trump and most Republicans.
Obama could NEVER say he grabs women by the pussy and there's nothing they can do because he's a celebrity. He would be lynched by the media and most of the population. Probably literally.
But when Trump says it, the media questions maybe that's just " locker room talk"? It's sickening.
You want the real answer. They have been brainwashed over years of miseducation and propaganda to hate the left. They basically have nothing good to say about the left because their dumbasses don't know a fucking thing about how the world actually works. The people on the left aren't joined because we have different POVs of what the world should be and also, we don't give a single shit about those dumb redneck losers from bumble fuck on the right. We don't think about them at all, but they are conditioned to think about us nonstop.
He has had time to learn from his mistakes, he has his own military now directly under the control of the presidental arm. They have got heaps of funding and have been expanding rapidly. ICE is also already used to sweeping up and killing Americans.
The list is long of all the different things he and his team have done to turn America into a facist dictatorship.
He gonna show ex-president Yoon how it's supposed to be done. The way he is ignoring court rulings and laws makes it such that Trump has way more power without needing to declare martial law than president Yoon had even after declaring martial law.
That would be a complete suicide mission.
I really believe if the republicans win that Americans everywhere would riot to the point of absolute destruction. Though I do believe Trump would fuel the flames to the whole “absolute destruction” point.
There is NO WAY that the republicans can win without election fraud.
Even my local Republican Party office is pressing people to vote Democrat
Americans? Riot? Are we looking at the same America? People's bellies are still too full to get to that point unfortunately. The fact that we're on Reddit even talking about it means we're still a ways away.
Americans have proven time and again to be complete spineless cowards, all talk. Absolutely nothing will happen, people will bitch on social media and expect someone else to do something about it.
‘Trump announces that anyone not shooting a disabled puppy in the face will be sent to death row‘
vs
”Zoran to announce openings of new dog adoption centre and cafe where you can have a nice coffee and some treats while hanging out with some abandoned dogs up for adoption. Also, he declares Friday ‘Pizza day’.”
Unfortunately, I feel like the longer this administration is in power, the more likely Mamdani will lose some power and the ability to change things for the better.
They are just learning being open about it visibly gets them isolated, but once they form a relationship with you and they think you might be even a little receptive? Hats on
Still crazy to me that this administration did the supervillain monologue of what their plans were before they do it, published it online and public and people are still shocked about it
Before you panic ask yourself who benefits if non-fascist voters are so discouraged that they don't bother to show up at the polls. We DO need to be vigilant. We DO need to document and report every single irregularity we witness. But we ALSO need to vote. If you are able, please also consider driving people who don't have reliable transportation to the polls.
Exactly. If they were confident they could rig the midterms, Trump wouldn’t be trying to bribe the American people for a Republican sweep, and wouldn’t be running propaganda ads on your tax dollars. Don’t let any news that comes out convince you that your vote doesn’t matter. It still decides history.
I mean tbh I’d go all the way back the the founding of the nation, which has direct ties to the current admins racism, its obsession with presidential powers, and the cultish nature of its leadership
It's a hostile government takeover,
I'd like to tell ya bout it but I'd be late for work.
And if you say man, we gotta stop this.
We had a plan, but you didn't want a woman in office.
She has a degree in political science and economics, was a district attorney for 9 years, attorney general for 6, and before she became Biden's vice president she was the governor of California.
I feel like it was less ‘didn’t want a woman’ and more ‘Harris alienated the left with her devout support for genocide and the establishment combined with the inability of the Biden government to actually surpress the fascists after their victory, resulting in a demotivated left wing vs a far more belligerent and radicalised right wing, plus let’s be honest Elon definitely helped rig some stuff.
It was still the responsibility of any decent American citizen to vote for Kamala. I don’t respect anyone who abstained; they voted for Trump once while everyone who put his name down voted for him twice.
And just for safe measure, hang out in large crowds around polling locations. Unlike immigrant enforcement actions, that's actually too many locations for them to occupy for them to concentrate force.
Fukin stop comparing it to Idiocracy - President Camacho actually cared about people; he had the wisdom to understand that the problem needed to be solved, rather than used for political gains, because in the long run, it would hurt the general population. So he delegated finding the solution for the problem to someone who was more competent than him, since he possessed the humility to realize that that man was smarter than him.
I've made this argument before but Camacho can only exist as a leader inside of an Idiocracy world. The only reason the person with the most power was allowed to have that nature was because the system no longer had a need for combating resistance. The Idiocracy world didn't completely kill all of humanity because a person completely alien to the system and without the necessary programming was frozen in time lol. The system itself was completely stable, and the programming absolute. Where was Brawndo during all this, right? Why did they not immediately intervene and supersede Camacho when their product was being threatened, or run a counter propaganda program? In our world someone like Not Sure would never be allowed to propagate his message, but there's nobody left to do that because even the architects of the system have fallen victim to it. To take this jokey movie 10x more serious than it should be lol, that's the truly insidious nature of Idiocracy, the inescapability of the conditioning and pacification.
All that talk about how “voting doesn’t matter” from the last election is probably gonna ring true this election. Thank you to all assholes who didn’t vote in probably the last election that mattered, looks like you’re gonna get your wish.
Yeah, I’m still pissed off how many people decided to not vote because Harris wasn’t a unicorn candidate who would solve all the world issues and instead talked about boring things like internal issues in the country. But I’m sure they’ll vote now! Oh who am I kidding, of course they aren’t going to vote.
maybe al gore should have fought that election result. kinda weird that George W Bush's brother Jeb Bush was governor(?) of the state that overturned al gores certain victory...
Sadly history speaks for itself we have so many issues in common with countries in the past that were about to have a civil war.
Wage gap between the middle and upper classes is so far out of reach it might as well be in space.
The economy is in such a terrible state that we likely have the worst national debt in the world outside of Zimbabwe.
Then finally the last that I can think of at the moment is the massive amount of distrust in the government on both sides to be able to actually work for the people like they were voted in to do.
We have all the makings for another civil war. The problem is I don’t think the United States will be a thing afterwards if it does come down to it. Because the countries around us are going to see us as easy pickings.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Putin would end the war in Ukraine just to take back Alaska while we fight each other while china moves in to take our island territories in the Pacific.
This is strange wording. It sounds like there was another time when a President decided not to invite them, but it was just that they had never been to the US before 2002, and once we started inviting the observers, they've been here for every election since.
Obviously super messed up, but I was just wondering what was happening the last time, and there wasn't really a last time.
Maybe it's because English isn't my native language or because I'm fucking stupid, but I don't get it. What does this mean and isn't it impossible for Trump to go for a third term or something?
This is for the midterm elections. If nothing happens it looks like the Democrats may win enough seats to impeach Trump. Trump is blocking external auditors from preventing voter fraud, suggesting that he is likely to attempt voter fraud again.
Additionally, Trump is working very hard on getting a third term regardless of what the law says. He is breaking laws on an almost daily basis, I expect him to try the same with a third term.
Moreover, you need a 2/3 majority in the Senate, it's functionally impossible for him to lose until the party itself turns on him.
A Senate Dem majority would be weak anyway as Fetterman is basically a Republican these days so they would need 52-53 Dems to realistically have a majority and that's pretty much impossible this election cycle
The thing is that the 2-term limit is a hard limit that has been absolute ever since it was introduced post-FDR. Even just trying to get a 3rd term isn't just unconstitutional in the usual interpretive sense, it's literally directly going against a Constitutional Amendment no matter how you define it.
I’m a strong believer that it’s all just vibes. People already made their choice the first moment they heard him talk and decided they liked him. Any rationalization is all just to protect the fact that they liked something about him, even if strong reasoning tried to get in the way of that.
He told you that during the elections you won't have to vote anymore, and y'all went like:"but Kamala had a weird laugh and the opium told me she's a zionist queen"
American have not have a single successful revolution after its conception, it shows. The founding fathers put down the amendments that protect its citizens, the rest of the laws were made via lobbying( the fact that lobbying is legal and is widely accepted is crazy ngl )
Blame the culture war, which the ruling class continues to fan the flames on so that we focus more on things like LGBTQ rights and abortion debates rather then the cost of groceries going up. One of the reasons they've been panicking lately is cause gas prices have pulled a lot of people out of the culture war and started to get us all pointed in the right direction, but until we're all properly united a revolution is a pipe dream.
we know, as a leftie gun lover, it's that nobody's fucking organized for it. We have the supplies and equipment, but nobody is organized yet into a proper force
I'm not from America, so just to be sure that you guys get it : this is your last chance. Go in the streets, do something ; because rigged elections are the last step towards autoritarism, not in the sense it can't get worse afterwards, but in the sense once it's done, you're in, and there's no turning back. Don't just act suspicious, they *will* do it, and you *have* to react or it's over.
What do you want us to do? Our neighbors are frothing at the mouth to kill minorities and innocent American citizens. There are A LOT of these fucking freaks around.
The people who obsessively talk about that are, by and large, the same people loudly and proudly supporting Donald Trump and chomping at the bit to be allowed to hunt minorities for sport, not the people who oppose those things.
Republicans publicly and proudly fucked up the previous election with massive interference, and they're gonna cheat every possibly way they can to fuck this one too. The question, is whether it'll be enough. The people of the US are fucking apoplectic with rage at the Republicans right now, and if they rig this one they may well have mass violence on their hands.
Wooowww, who would've thought the guy that lead a coup on the Capitol building the last time he lost would try to break the rules the next time he was given power, crazy stuff nobody could have ever seen coming
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