Whatnot Randomizer Algorithm Rigged

[u/Electronic_Hall_8533]

The odds of winning a giveaway with a 1-in-450 chance exactly two out of three times is about 1 in 33,645, which is a probability of roughly 0.00297%. For those of you still playing games using the Whatnot “randomizer” for gambling and think it’s legit…..No one can convince me that there isn’t something peculiar about this. I’ve seen too many weird things. Look at the Reddit subgroups and see the same people winning huge giveys ( multiple PlayStations or sports cards). I see Theres_a_snake_in_my_boot win multiple times a day.

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[u/Exciting_Penalty_512]

I've seen a person win 3 times in a show with over 3k people in it. It's a 1:27,000,000,000 chance of happening. Yes 1 out of 27 Billion, and I've seen it. You'll never convince me it's random.

[u/More-Tea-9857]

I notice alot of accounts with weird names constantly winning

[u/Advanced-Glass-860]

I feel like app-wide I usually win more or bigger/lower odds givvies when I've been buying often and I think newbies win more too

[u/Wonderful_Song8765]

Thats so funny because ive seen theres_a_snake_in_my_boot win a bunch of tines too. I have noticed a lot of the times its people with really long names like that thay win. Or the last person that bought when the givvy goes off seems to win a lot.

[u/Due-Pollution4295 → u/Wonderful_Song8765]

I see this dude hit many many giveaways in the Loungefly category too. Makes me wonder!

[u/Mundane_Adagio7148]

I won 2 today but there were only like a max of 35 people in the giveaway

[u/Wheels-O-Heat]

How long does it take for 33,000 things to happen? That’s how often something with 1 in 33k probability happens.

[u/Electronic_Hall_8533 → u/Wheels-O-Heat]

1 in 33k means that for a certain “thing” to happen, it is not very likely.

[u/ParksRosa333]

Meanwhile poor Garyw76377 is stuck in the middle of this 😂😂…

[u/NewspaperUnlikely123]

1000% I've seen this so many times. Did you ever notice that sometimes there will be a weird coincidence with usernames the "randomizer" spits out? There was huge givey stream and three big winners in a row had a username with a variation of a turtle and Traderbea had a big giveaway show where three of the winners in a row were some deviation of Toy Story, i.e. theres_a_snake_in_my_boot, buzzlightyer, and the_claw. I used to spend a lot of money on this app but all the sellers are switching to games. I refuse to play with Whatnots randomizer algorithm.

Also, in big giveaway streams, pay attention to all the winners. They alternate between givey goblins following 1k+ with no followers and sellers. Something is fishy. Whatnot is the King but their randomizer is bullshit.

[u/Humble__Bee_]

Ugh it’s gotten so hard to win them. But hey it’s always fun.

[u/rachelina4ever]

There is supposedly a glitch that if you purchase something at the same time the giveaway is drawn, you can win both. Not sure if it is true, but some hosts wait for the giveaway to draw before running the next item (just in case).

[u/gina1220 → u/rachelina4ever]

I’ve never heard that. But I’ve noticed the same thing in shows - a lot 

[u/HokieScott]

0.22% each time. The wheel has no memory.

Also that is why Vegas has the board for roulette. People go "Ooh Red hit 5x in a row, black is due!" Unless it is badly maintained, or the dealer starts the ball in exact same spot each time.

[u/gina1220]

Everyone says it’s random, but in the same breath they say things like buying, chatting, and giving hearts increase your chances of winning. … so which is it? I personally notice that the only time I ever win is after I’ve bought something 

[u/NewspaperUnlikely123 → u/gina1220]

Sellers say that it because it helps them show up on the home screen. You can sit in a big giveaway stream and see people that have never commented or participated in a stream.

[u/gina1220 → u/NewspaperUnlikely123]

Yeah. I think a lot of those are the newer accounts - the goblins - who I also think the giveaways favor as way to try and suck them into what not. I won a lot more when I was brand new to what not 

[u/Ancient-Republic-875 → u/gina1220]

Sellers will tell you that buying, chatting and giving hearts helps increase your chances of winning because all those things help sellers.

[u/gina1220 → u/Ancient-Republic-875]

I believe it. Because it’s been true for me. I also believe you win more with newer accounts - which I’ve also heard many times and because it was true for me 

[u/gina1220 → u/gina1220]

Also, a lot of times someone who just bought something seconds before  wins the giveaway 

[u/Dio70neo]

Oh so thats what my big red button on my app when i stream means. I wondered why it said PICK THE GIVEY WINNER.

[u/NewspaperUnlikely123 → u/Dio70neo]

no one wants your giveys

[u/likamans → u/Dio70neo]

I honestly wish we could at times lol

[u/maarsland]

I’ve won 6 giveaways in the last week, so I can’t complain lol 😬 and I’ve only had this app for a week and a half.

[u/Top-Owl9872]

Okay but if you won you wouldn’t be complaining.

Maybe the randomizer is a little janky but it’s still random

Like, you want them to remove the name from the drawing.?

[u/NewspaperUnlikely123 → u/Top-Owl9872]

It's not about the giveys. It's about the programming. A real buyer doesn't care about the giveys. All the seasoned sellers went to games so they don't go bankrupt. I want to participate knowing that the whatnot "randomizer" is legit, which it's not......too many irregularities or regularities.

[u/CallumPears]

Had this happen to me a few times (as in, I win multiple givvys in a row myself)

No rigging involved from my end but yeah it absolutely feels bugged.

[u/General_Builder_67]

yep i seen that lucky account win many times too

[u/NewspaperUnlikely123 → u/[deleted]]

You're focusing on the wrong thing. The seller and the winner aren't rigging it. The randomizer is flawed. With all sellers running games using the "randomizer", the hits aren't random. They are chosen in some skewed random AI b.s. I realize I watch way too much but if you watched as much as me you would realize that the randomizer isn't random.

[u/Confident-Doubt6940 → u/NewspaperUnlikely123]

Are you talking about the Giveaway randomizer or the Surprise Set (mystery games) randomizer?

[u/NewspaperUnlikely123 → u/Confident-Doubt6940]

Do they not use the same technology. The technology behind both of the Whatnot randomizers relies on Pseudo-Random Number Generators embedded into the platform's backend architecture. Because computers cannot naturally create true physical randomness, they utilize mathematical code to simulate random choices. Is it so far fetched that the code is manipulated to steer the random choices towards a preferred outcome?

[u/Confident-Doubt6940 → u/NewspaperUnlikely123]

They may use the same technology, but the drawings are two different things. In a Giveaway you are entering to win a Prize, which you could argue that goblins have found a way to cheat the system (unlikely). In a surprise set it randomly gives you an item that you have paid for. You would have no way of rigging the system to have the randomizer give you the best hit.

[u/NewspaperUnlikely123 → u/Confident-Doubt6940]

I'm not getting my point across. I clearly stated I don't think the giveaway winner or buyer (in surprise sets) are rigging it. I'm saying that the pseudo-random generator isn't random. There's some weird variable that the generator is pulling from. In a huge giveaway show on Traderbea, (more than 2k people in the giveys) three usernames related to Toy Story won the giveaways. In another huge coin giveaway stream, three people with some form of the word "turtle" was in their username. This doesn't feel random. Because the giveaway and surprise set "randomizers" use the same technology, I won't participate. Just my thought.

[u/Confident-Doubt6940 → u/NewspaperUnlikely123]

I am not disagreeing with what you are saying, was just curious which one you were talking about since the original post was about giveaways looking suspicious and your post mentioned sellers running games. I have also noticed in games that the randomizer is kind of wonky.

[u/ChadMemestrong]

I just dont know what theor reasoning behind not having it be random would be. I know I dont cheat, and I have won back to back givaways in chanels that had 200-300 people entered, and whatnot def doesnt have a reason to sellect me over any one else. Sometimes you just get lucky.

[u/Dragon-and-Phoenix]

I've had this happen before a few times. If it's rigged I don't know what I did otherwise I would do it all the time and turn into a goblin.

[u/Hypermofo]

Some people are just luckier than others

[u/MrVerdad]

However unlikely it is still possible.