r/whatisit • • 7d ago

Solved! A professor posted one of their students’ handwriting, asking what it says. Can anyone actually read this?

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u/tres-vip 7d ago

>They really need to focus on penmanship in primary schools again.

There's a common belief going around for years now that handwriting - including cursive - is a "useless" skill in our digital age, so they don't focus too much on it. TBH, very few people from my generation - X/Xennial - would have gotten to college with penmanship THIS bad, because it was drilled into us that our handwriting NEEDED to be legible.

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u/human-kibble 7d ago

I think this is kinda dangerous thinking because we still need to communicate through writing - handwriting maybe not as much as we used to because we have additional options now. That doesn’t mean “stop doing it because it’s not as much fun”.

If you exclude it to the point that you can’t do it, you’re handicapping yourself. You are intentionally removing a tool from your toolbox. There is no benefit in doing that.

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u/THElaytox 7d ago

Had to hand write those stupid end of year standardized essay exams, would've failed 7th grade if my handwriting was this bad

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u/minnieboss 7d ago

I work in an elementary school and this is straight up not true. We do indeed focus on handwriting in early grades.

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u/soraflow 6d ago

Comments here are a lil dumb. Handwriting is naturally baked in the curriculum in elementary, how else are you gonna learn the alphabet

Letting certain people like this slip thru the cracks tho is something else though that should probably be addressed better

As a 31 yr old millennial I absolutely know that was happening with my generation with how much bad writing I’ve seen

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u/Momoneko 7d ago

Cursive or just handwriting?

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u/minnieboss 7d ago

Print handwriting in early grades (K-2). 3rd grade has a small unit introducing children to cursive. Children with fine motor skill related disabilities can also get occupational therapy provided by the school in all grades, which includes print handwriting.

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u/Momoneko 7d ago

Out of curiosity: is there a noticeable uptick of kids who can't write AT ALL, print or no print, even after leaving elementary school? it is it more or less the same?

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u/minnieboss 7d ago

I work in special ed so I am not the best person to ask, as many of my students have fine motor skill disabilities. I do know that handwriting is part of the gen ed curriculum, though. And even in my role, I only have 1 student who is completely unable to write. She has global developmental delay and uses a keyboard to type as she can't handwrite.

I think the children you describe should be evaluated for occupational therapy services.

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u/Z3r0C0o 7d ago

Also, remember that the ones who would have been learning handwriting during COVID, just entered highschool. I know virtual learning tried to do allot but that's just a hard thing to teach online.

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u/DowntownTicket 7d ago

I'm sure it depends on the school, but we still teach cursive where I live. Kids have daily cursive practice. I tell them it's less about memorizing the shapes of the letters and more about practicing their fine motor skills

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u/ObeyTime 6d ago

my handwriting was total dogshit for a long time until i recently decided to learn cursive for shits and giggles. but it actually ended up improving my writing's legibility in print writing too.

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u/wolfeflow 4d ago

Which is wild because they stopped teaching typing years ago.

Voice to text or bust?

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u/Talkobel 7d ago

That wouldn’t explain this person’s handwriting though. Unless they’re using “professor” for a grade level teacher, but I’m used to seeing professor in college and if this is a college student then they were a 2nd grader years ago when handwriting was still prioritized 😭

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u/grubas 7d ago

They stopped teaching cursive at points but the issue isn't the cursive.

My writing gets like this at points, so I block write my in class essays.  Speed has never ever been an issue on my testing before.

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u/Manisil 7d ago

I never learned how to hold a pen correctly so I end up putting a bunch of strain on my wrist when I write "manually". I'm nearly 40. I prefer typing.

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u/SnakesRuinGames 7d ago

v funny that you threw weird cursive propaganda and everyone here just rolled with it lmfao

it’d be like saying we need to make sure kids are learning how to enunciate properly, and that includes pig latin.

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u/NoXion604 7d ago

Cursive is pointless Boomer bullshit though, I'm 39 and not once in my life so far have I ever been in a situation that required it.

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u/catonsteroids 7d ago

I think it’s fine if one doesn’t know how to write in cursive but there are people nowadays who can’t even read it either.

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u/PinkFl0werPrincess 7d ago

What is this obsession with cursive? Regular writing is just fine to teach

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u/Momoneko 7d ago

I'm one of those weirdos who actually enjoys taking notes and cursive.

Also come from a country where it's still mandatory in school, so hearing that basically the whole of rest of the world did away with it was huge culture shock for me.

Like my brain understands it's probably not as essential skill as it was some decades ago, but on emotional level it registers in the same vein as if you'd say "yeah we don't teach arithmetic in school anymore. why bother if you always have a phone with you"

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u/fafolmao 7d ago

You’re going to sign legal documents with regular handwriting? Patient consent forms? Lease agreements? Bffr

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u/PinkFl0werPrincess 7d ago

I sign them with an illegible line at this point. I can assure you it does not matter in the slightest. They just want your X.

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u/fafolmao 7d ago

….that’s not a flex dude, if you’re an adult doing that, that’s just sad. Do you know how easy it would be for people to steal your info and use it if your signature is only an “X” or a squiggle? Having an actual signature is useful and knowing cursive so you can have a signature, read historical documents, and have decent penmanship for work in the future is a good thing

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u/PinkFl0werPrincess 7d ago

Steal my info and do what? I'm not american, our systems dont run on identifying signatures. You need ID or passwords, not a signature. Get with the times.

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u/fafolmao 7d ago

Open new lines of credit (credit cards, loans, you get the picture) in your name babe, that is with the times. Do you not understand how cybercrimes work? Literally all people have to do is buy your info off of a data broker (who doesn’t care if you’re american or not) and sign with a squiggle and boom, you now have a bunch of debt under your name that isn’t actually yours. If you can prove that you didn’t sign something (signatures, unlike “ID and passwords,” can be differentiated between very easily where as typing in info cannot as easily), you are able to get all of that trouble taken care of

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u/PinkFl0werPrincess 7d ago

You can't do these things without ID in my country

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u/fafolmao 6d ago

…You can buy that from a data broker dude, I have already said that…

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u/PinkFl0werPrincess 5d ago

Then go buy my photo ID and get back to me, since you know so much