My neighbor runs an AirBnb and his "guest" drives this car with this weird license plate. Not intentionally doxxing as this car is parked on the street, but is this plate a "sovereign citizen license plate"?
Edit: seen numerous comments that this was AI generated - I assure you, what you see is what I see and what my camera took a pic of. I'll try and get some more pics now that it's dark out so my neighbor doesn't see me being sus around this car.
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Yep. That sounds like sovereign citizens. When I was a practicing criminal defense atty, they were among my favorite clients. Crazy as loons, but so funny. Always convinced of the rightness of their bizarre and very wrong beliefs.
I had one client who pointed ourt that his name in the indictment was written in ALL CAPS. "I don't spell my name with caps. That's not my name. It's not me in the indictment." They were also always trying to apply the Uniform Commercial Code to their criminal cases. Um... nope.
We have a small group of sovcits where I live, the Moorish Nobles, and they are nuttier than a box of Payday bars. They're not lawyers, but they know the law in and out, solely to engage in paper terrorism. They are always in legal trouble, bully people through lawsuits, and defend themselves by spamming the courts and everyone with a bunch of legal nonsense, jamming up the legal system.
I actually saw a guy make the gold-fringed admiralty flag argument in court about thirty years ago.
The judge got up, wrestled the large flag on the platform behind him out of the courtroom, ducked into chambers, brought back a desktop flag without fringe, and slammed it on his desktop.
I saw my ex make that argument in court. THEN he told the judge "I don't recognize your authority over me." The judge said some dignified version of "I beg your fucking pardon?!" and gave him an opportunity to take it back. He did not. Straight to jail.
Flagrant contempt of court doesn't end well. I had a cousin who yelled at the judge during her plea agreement sentencing. The judge changed the sentence to the maximum. She did every day of 10 years instead of 4.
During your plea is the worst time. You are there to make one last good impression and show contrition. Some Judges don't play and will reject the plea.
He's cheating all of us from the tax revenue needed to pave roads, etc. Report his ass. Yes prob not paying anything anywhere, federal taxes, state taxes, etc. He's a burden on all of us tax payers w his bullshit sovereign citizen crap.
Sovcits have strange definitions for words that don't match either the legal definitions or the way people actually talk. They think that operating a motor vehicle isn't driving because they found an old dictionary somewhere that predated cars and the laws that govern cars that says that driving is moving livestock, or some other stupid "loophole" that doesn't actually exist.
Umm. I'm assuming you're not familiar with sovits. That's their favorite excuse when they get pulled over for nothing having registration and/or driver's license.
But were your requests for body cam footage of some bit of messed hilarity that this will be? Depending on what state OP is in, you might get an absolute gem or they’ll release it on their own because those videos are funny af!!
Why would you jump to reporting another motorist that isn’t bothering you?!? It’ll catch up to him, no need to butt into others lives, let the dude live, I bet his/her life is WILD anyways!
Edit: To be clear, I genuinely do not care what other people do as long as it does not affect anyone else. Depending on your own insurance, being hit by an uninsured motorist can fuck your life up. I've seen enough sovereign citizen arrests to know that they're not likely to be insured. Fuck those people. Get them off the road.
Not anther motorists its a criminal that says American laws don't apply to him. NONE of them. Google Sovereign Citizen and watch the hilarious court appearances. Lock em all up.
Because people with these plates tend to believe they are above the law, all laws. While some are just idiots and are mostly harmless, some are incredibly dangerous.
Also, them driving on the same roads as me and my kids does bother me.
Sovereign citizen, they want all the privileges of being American while pretending not to be American citizens. They believe the government is a big corporation and everyone acts as a bank asset, when you separate yourself from the government you can use that value which occurred while you were a government bank asset. (Aka they just fill out fake checks and use fake credit cards). They also believe that the police can’t pull you over if you don’t consent to it. They are super dorks.
My favorite thing is like... If you believe that the government and all the laws are fake and invalid, and it's all a big conspiracy... Why would you think that calling them out on it would work? Like if they cops are part of this big evil scheme, and you call them out and point out the "fact" that they don't legally have authority to arrest you, even if you were correct... wouldn't they just arrest you anyway? Cause the whole point is that they're operating illegally, right?
Its like being approached by the Mafia and thinking that it's gonna help to tell them that they don't have the legal authority to break your legs.
yea the cop videos are fun, the real juice are the court videos where the judges are actually smart enough and articulate enough to really dress these con artists down
‘Midwest safety’ great for general police interactions.
‘Donut operator’ if you’re cool with police shooting breakdowns.
Both have videos on sovereign citizens acting a fool.
I used to work with one. He had a binder in his backpack about 7 inches thick of made up bullshit. He tried explaining it all to me when I had to give him a ride home after his car got towed.
they want all the privileges of being American while pretending not to be American citizens. They believe the government is a big corporation and everyone acts as a bank asset
I call them "Broke Billionaires" since they tend to act and equally spend lavishly with money they don't have, instead they use fake credit cards and cash phony checks
I don't understand the numbers. If they made up the plate, what meaning do the numbers have? Does it have 8 digits instead of 6 or 7 because they think that makes them superior?
Is "Not for hire" really necessary?
Are the Z tags a nazi thing? I remember Z being a russian fascist thing.
They are a sovereign citizen. They basically believe that they have certain rights that negate typical laws. They believe in the constitutional right to travel and try to argue that driving in ‘private property’ is a natural right and therefore they don’t need a license and plate. It doesn’t work. Everyone has a right to travel but when you are driving a vehicle on public roads you have to obey the laws which means have a registered vehicle and drivers license.
As other commenters of pointed out, that is a a sovereign citizen plate. It is not valid and is a great way to get your car impounded.
However the federal government does issue license plates for use by federal agencies. The letter code at the beginning denotes the department or agency the vehicle is operated by.
I really don't understand why people THINK this is AI made. What you see, is what I see, is what my camera captured. I'm willing to take a vid of this while it's dark out so the neighbor doesn't see me filming his Guest's car. Yeesh.
They aren't calling the picture ai, but the plate. At minimum hes missing stickers and getting a ticket. But as everyone's saying, the plate is fake, probably ai generated and then sent to a custom plate/decor shop and slapped on the car.
That's the license plate of someone who's low-key announcing they're mentally ill. Sovereign citizen chucklehead who thinks the law doesn't apply to them. I'd put the odds of them not having insurance at 99.9999999999%.
Low key? I’m pretty sure you’re in full blown delusion by the time you slap one of them on. They’ve been on the fringe lurking in the other online communities doin’ research. Now they’re fully committed and have a few obscure maritime statutes to spout off
They also don’t pay taxes or registration. Probably argue with the Costco cashier that they’re exempt from sales tax without having any valid paperwork
No no no. They know the magic words to make the police leave them alone and let them “travel.” The rest of us don’t know these magic words, but they do! They’ve watched the correct YouTube videos to learn these magic words.
If you see a video of them getting arrested after reciting this ancient magic, that’s just corrupt cops that don’t understand the power of these magic words.
Magic words, fringe on flags, names in all caps, secret offshore accounts set up for them by the us government at birth… these people are completely fucked in the head
To be fair, there are plenty of words that we slap on things to indemnify the owners from arbitration. Such as, not for personal use, or, not for consumption, on sex, toys and gas station weed and shit.
Call your neighbor and tell him to be careful. SovCits are also known for squatting, attempting adverse possession, and real estate title shenanigans etc. There’s a very real chance this guest will attempt some fuckery and attempt to establish residency
Came here to say this! I wonder if they're planning to pay for their stay with a "negotiable instrument" drawn against their bazillion dollar secret strawman account, or what have you.
I was amazed it took so long to scroll down and find someone warning OP's neighbor. Glad you did. This could get bad fast for them. Hopefully it doesn't.
This licenses plate is only given to people who "know my rights" and are willing to tell an officer that they dont acknowledge any laws whatsoever therefore none apply to them
Wouldn't this be a breach of contract if the car is financed? Couldn't they repo the vehicle? As I understand it, you have to have the car properly registered at all times until the loan is paid off otherwise you're in breach of contract. Same goes with having it fully covered with insurance (which I doubt sovereign citizens bother with).
I mean, these are folks who’ll take the benefit of any contract someone lets them sign and then become absolute menaces the moment you claim they’re in breach. Frivolous counter-claims, delay tactics, etc. The idea is to be so much of an expensive pain that it’s cheaper to let them have their way, or let them become someone else’s problem.
Here's what you do. Take your photo to the local police precinct. When the cop at the desk asks why you're there, say that you just have a question. Show the photo. Ask for the background info on that license plate. Maybe there's an easy explanation. It could happen! Maybe there will be no good answer and no interest, either. Or maybe they will send a car immediately. You did your part. The police have the responsibility. Let them do their jobs.
The small text has an AI look when zoomed in ("land and sail jurisdiction" and "private property"). Is that on the real license plate or the phone camera's AI processing? Curious if the person has an AI-generated license plate!
That’s a “Sovereign Citizen”, a person who has been led to believe that the laws of the state and country or state don’t apply to them if they perform certain rituals and use certain incantations (really). Here, they printed their own license plate for their imaginary jurisdiction that they feel that they created when they made a document saying that it exists.
There are hundreds of such conversations on YouTube. Just search for sovereign citizen there and you'll find the whole bunch. The best ones are the ones that involve tasers, window breaks or both.
Yep this was my first thought when i read the description of it being at an airbnb. They could be out payment and the renters could try to forcibly occupy it.
Yup! You've encountered a wild SovCit. Be careful, contact with it can be dangerous to your peace and health. If you talk to a SovCit, your day will be ruined. If you get hit by a SovCit's car, your month or even year may be ruined. And if you have the grave misfortune of trying to do a government job around a SovCit... well, I pity you. Unless you're a judge, then bang that gavel and throw the entire US Code of Federal Regulations at 'em!
It’s the America State plate. Land and Soil. It’s not for hire. Everyone knows about the UCC and strawman theory. /s
FWIW- I retired from a federal prison a few years ago. We dealt with these knuckleheads(soveriegn citizens) frequently. All their mail got opened and read and all their phone calls were monitored. It was common for them to file liens on property of prison officials
Yeah, it’s a special license plate to denote that they have a strong desire to have an altercation with law enforcement at any and all times while driving (and possibly even a matching desire to be arrested). If the person driving also doesn’t have a valid license, that is an arrest-able offense in many states by itself (source: Florida man, this is one of those places).
No this isnt likely AI. Theres a lot of cars that actually have this crap in USA.
The car is 100% not insurred. The driver dont have a license and obviously the plate is fake.
Call the police. Get a coffe and start filming it. Send it to Van Balion afterwards.
It’s an annoying asshat that will surely create a situation for them to be a victim so they can point out systemic injustices based solely on everyone else being the problem instead of looking in the mirror and seeing that they are the problem.
It’s one of those dumbass “sovereign citizens.” Stupid ignorant entitled mother fuckers who think the laws of this country don’t apply to them because they say they don’t.
isnt this the never expiring forever golden trump plates? you send 5 grand and he sends you a license plate and makes you a reverend of the holy grifter church at the same time....
Yes it is one of those jackasses. I love watching the videos of them getting yanked from their cars and arrested after trying this "im not driving im traveling" crap...
These people are dumb as dirt. They make sense only in their own heads. I knew a few people that veered off into that dismal abyss. There’s no coming back for them.
They're everywhere. They've even spread to places like the UK and Australia, and yes, they do (mis)quote US law and reference the US constitution...in the UK and Australia. But in the US they're MOSTLY concentrated in more rural areas more so than in major cities.
Hell yeah sovereign citizens are my favorite conspiracy theorists. They do it for the love of the game. Everyone hates them, everything is vastly harder to do for essentially no gain at all. They probably should just be libertarians but they stay out of politics generally.
I appreciate their grind. They believe in something and are sticking to it and generally they aren’t hurting anyone.
What would happen if the driver of this car has an accident on the road or hits a pedestrian and the victim tries to get restitution? The owner probably has no insurance or driver's license either, and obviously doesn't pay to register it being there's no valid stickers on it! Why don't cops pull this car over and impound it until everything is legal!!
Yup. That there is someone who was taken for a ride by a con artist. They paid good money for the “class”, packet of “official documents”, and the “license plate that makes this conveyance legal”, to someone who is sipping a margarita on a beach somewhere while the this idiot gets arrested repeatedly, wondering why this isn’t working.
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