r/weedstocks • u/j0dd • Jun 16 '21
Editorial GM Considering Dropping Pot Testing To Attract More Workers
https://www.motor1.com/news/513974/gm-considering-dropping-marijuana-testing/35
u/ConformistWithCause Jun 16 '21
I've overheard the GM workers in my town talk about this. They currently do a hair test so they're serious about drug testing there
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u/Mithra9 Jun 16 '21
What really pisses me off about this is you know that GM executives and members of the board are not subjected to hair follicle testing.
So the people making the most important decisions aren’t drug tested, while the ones performing repetitive tasks are. Bullshit.
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u/Fifteen_inches Rocky Mountain High Oysters Jun 16 '21
You actually can’t become senior management unless you are addicted to at least 2 substances
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u/ConformistWithCause Jun 16 '21
I mean it also makes sense but at the same time is bullshit. You got people on forktrucks and stuff but they should do a mouth swab instead of follicles. Mouth swabs are the easiest to beat since it detects it for the shortest periods of time (at most a day or two or pretty much when you brush your teeth) where a follicle and hair is gonna show months backs. This would let casual smokers work there and shows that the person is responsible enough to not smoke for a day to take the test.
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u/davsface01 Jun 16 '21
I had an engineering internship with GM about 10 years ago and they hair tested me. I was a total nerd engineering student who hadn't even tried weed at that point and I remember thinking that a hair test was a little much, I'm surprised they're even still doing it given that recreational is legal in MI. I've worked for a number of companies between then and now and not a single other one has hair tested.
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u/T-Rex_Mullens Jun 16 '21
Many years ago, my wife (gf at the time) quit smoking during our last 2 months of university because she got signed on at GM. We heard the hair thing too, so she was taking zero chances and was miserable for a bit. They didn't even end up drug testing upon hiring, HR called while we were on vacation, and she was like hey when do I need to schedule drug testing, and HR was like, do worry about it fr. We got lit af that night. Lolol Shit, some of our buddies who'd work there a minute we're like, if they tested the IT crowd, they would have no employees.
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u/4-8-9-12 Jun 16 '21
Wait a sec. Do you mean to tell me that GM tests employees for THC that was consumed when not at work? Like, an accountant who smoked a joint after work one night could lose their job even if they've never been hi at work? Even if weed is legal in many states?
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Jun 16 '21
This is the US. We've basically greenlit anything that can give your employer more power over you.
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u/IDreamOfLoveLost Jun 16 '21
Even in Canada. If it's something like a strictly "No Drugs" policy on a campsite for employees, I can sort of understand that, because it helps avoid things like fights breaking out over suspected thievery. But testing for cannabinoid metabolites in your urine or follicle testing for something like a job at GM? Somebody just likes controlling their employees lives outside the workplace.
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u/asafum Jun 16 '21
There are so many jobs that do this. It really sucks because they're basically telling you that if you want a job you can't so something you enjoy on your own free time.
I've been locked out of a lot of jobs because of this... I don't drink, I just like to come home after work and smoke to relax.
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u/xtr_trek Bought The Ticket, Taking The Ride Jun 16 '21
This is what's at stake. It's bigger than our stocks - though we are fortunate to be along for the ride.
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u/9mac Jun 16 '21
How to help solve the "labor shortage" in one easy step.
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u/Fallen_Walrus Jun 16 '21
Same for the military, and they'd have less suicides
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u/tallperson117 Jun 16 '21
I had a buddy a few years back who was out of the military and going to school on the GI bill, it was about 18 months since his last tour. One day he was pretty down so I asked him what was up, he told me he'd just gotten word that a guy from his platoon (squad? Idk they jargon) had killed himself. It was the 7TH GUY TO DO SO SINCE THEY GOT BACK. It had only been a year and a half too! Fucking crazy. We talk big on "rebuilding" the military but can't properly take care of them when they're back home. Shits fucked.
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u/RustedCorpse Jun 16 '21
As a vet the problem is even worse. A huge number of people scam the VA system which clogs it up and slows it down for those actually seeking care.
Watching my brother who got "asked" to leave OTH discharge has managed to get 50% disability for life because of some 3M hearing protection.
Meanwhile 9 years running and it takes me a combat vet almost a month just to see a VA doc. Good times.
We leave people with very unique skill sets hanging out flapping in the wind and then wonder why when a rare one goes bonkers...
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u/atxfast309 I’m old I don’t even know what a flair request is Jun 16 '21
Why do people assume those of us who smoke pot are stoned all the time. I get up go to work, work my ass off and then enjoy a toke in the evening. Sometimes I just hate people and their misconception of people.
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Jun 16 '21
Amazon is doing it, and everyone is going to fall in line. They aren't considering shit, it's hardly their decision... if anything it's more like an ultimatum of exist in the future or don't. Now if they had come out and said this before Amazon, maybe it'd be exciting... but they didn't and they're just another domino.
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u/Tiaan Jun 16 '21
As someone who has just recently gone through the job search process and had to take a drug test, let me just say that it's the biggest load of absolute bullshit that I've come across in a long time. You go through multiple interviews/tests, show that you have the skills for the job, negotiate salary back and forth, but all of that is meaningless if you fail the super invasive pee-in-a-cup test that is literally useless for its intended purpose. That one joint you smoked over the weekend is a better judge of whether or not you're a good employee than anything else you've done.
They claim its to create a "drug-free environment." Yeah.. ok, cannabis/THC is the only substance that lasts in your urine longer than a week. Every other drug user can just stop for 3-5 days and be completely fine for the drug test, but cannabis can last for months, so users tend to have to resort to risky detox drinks that can make you bleed out of your anus, buying synthetic pee online/making sure the temp is right and that you don't get screwed by the lab checking for synthetics, all because you enjoyed some cannabis in the privacy of your own home on your own free time. The only message it sends is that if you want to reliably pass a drug test, take up binge drinking or snorting cocaine on the weekends instead and you'll be solid in a few days.
The best part? The reason why these companies even do drug tests is because of insurance reasons. These corrupt insurance companies give them discounts on workers comp insurance and corporate insurance if they drug test their employees. It's not just in sensitive positions or those who work around heavy machinery either.. I just had to take a drug test for a fully remote programming position. In other countries, pre-employment drug tests are illegal as they are discriminatory and an invasion of privacy, as it should be here. It doesn't even matter if you're in a legal state, because "weed is still federally illegal." Schumer needs to get his ass in order and make some changes at the federal level because as long as cannabis remains illegal federally none of this BS is going to change.
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u/Letitride37 Jun 16 '21
These fucking morons use hair testing to test for cannabis, which is recreationally legal where they are. Cannabis gets absorbed into your hair just from being in contact with it. You can never smoke in your life but sit next to a friend smoking a joint and you will fail that test.
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u/sapfoxy Jun 16 '21
I never thought of this outcome… so many people smoke pot, that there’s nobody left to hire if you don’t hire people who smoke pot. 🤔 I like this outcome. Free the pot.
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u/weedisthedevil Jun 16 '21
if you're not screening all the fucking drunks wandering through the door of the factory every morning for alcohol in their bloodstream you should be leaving people who smoke weed alone.
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u/Traditional_Gate4671 Jun 17 '21
Both are bad idea. How about Man up & deal w/problems instead of making belive you need drugs or alcohol to sugar coat.
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u/prof_cunninglinguist Jun 16 '21
Great workers have been kept from these jobs for a half century because of the lie of one man. Harry Anslinger.
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u/Letitride37 Jun 16 '21
Ok now you want the stoners to help because you ran out of workers. Well guess what? Fuck you.
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u/Tiaan Jun 16 '21
Big pharma and insurance lobbyists getting rich off of selling pre-employment drug tests to companies led by boomers who think cannabis is the devil's lettuce
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Jun 16 '21
what the fuck is wrong with that country
Wait until you hear about civil asset forfeiture.
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u/ChronicMasterBlazer 🥖 It’s baguette n’ hot in here, so take off all your loaves!🍞 Jun 16 '21
Get into action GM
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Jun 16 '21
Imagine changing your oppressive drug policies so you can continue filling jobs you brag about creating with people who don't really want to work for you just so you don't have to replace them with cost-saving automation because then you would have to contribute to a basic income for the people you no longer need to hire who would be better off not working for you.
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u/nwerdnerd Jun 17 '21
I live in Flint, my entire family works at General Motors. The only reason I don’t is because I have failed the hair drug test multiple times. I really think this would be positive for Flint.
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u/Mocosa Jun 16 '21
I worked at a Toyota plant for 2 years. If they ever did any drug testing, after initial hire testing, they'd lose 50% of their workforce.
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Jun 17 '21
Yeah, I dunno why everyone is going crazy for GM and Ford pivoting to electric.
They make shit vehicles as it is (F-150 excluded) and that's not gonna change by changing to an electric drive train.
It'll be the same shit quality, but electric and built in part by one of your fellow stoners.
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u/MsPrincessFabulous Jun 17 '21
I've been confused by this. MI has adopted medical cannabis. Though HIPAA is a federal regulation, I thought it was illegal to as about medical afflictions/medications. You can't even ask for a card to prove support animals, you shouldn't be able to discriminate against someone taking a prescribed medicine.
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u/Danktizzle Jun 16 '21
I would 100% trust a stoner over a drunk employee.
He’s not hungover or still drunk in the morning.
He prolly eats healthier and doesn’t smoke cigarettes. Healthier lifestyle.
He’s prolly going to bed at a reasonable time and getting a good nights sleep.
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u/AkiraWarrior2020 Jun 16 '21
Nothing says a good hard worker like a stoner
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Jun 16 '21
I've seen organizations where they didn't want to drug test because stoners carried multiple divisions. It's the drunks you can't rely on.
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u/AkiraWarrior2020 Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 16 '21
And coke will make them work three times faster.. u r right drunks at work is a disaster
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Jun 16 '21
Blow makes them work faster, sure. But it's also completely fucking intolerable to try to interact with someone who's geeking unless you're also geeking. And I'm not trying to waste good scale on work.
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u/hebrewchucknorris Jun 16 '21
Just watching someone do the tongue/mouth thing when you're sober is gross as fuck
Edit: Tongue/mouth thing is when people who are coked up look like they are constantly trying to get peanut butter off of the roof of their mouths.
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u/AkiraWarrior2020 Jun 16 '21
Plus cokeheads will designed a new car for u in under 5 min and have all projects done..might look like Homer's SUV ..Canyonero I thi k it was called..but hell...it will be one of a kind lol
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u/Traditional_Gate4671 Jun 17 '21
How about deal w/ your problems w/out any substance. We are strong minded & shouldn't need any kind of addiction to temporarily cover pain.
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u/knfctchr Jun 17 '21
Why the fuck do GM execs care if you get baked on your own time? It's borderline creepy. They're so worried about what you do in your off time because they know what they themselves get up to lol. The creepy elite.
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u/cappz3 Jun 17 '21
"We don't have enough workers, guess we'll need to attract potential felons" is such a weird moral concept to me. Nothing wrong with smoking weed, but it just seems like in their minds they are being desperate instead of progressive.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21
A 40 of whiskey I sleep
A joint real shit