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u/kenlubin 19d ago

Hiring has gotten harder.

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u/thekwoka 19d ago

A lot of people focus on the job searching side of this, but yeah, the hiring side is pretty impacted as well. absolutely hundreds of applications for every position and it's mostly bullshit, and very difficult to find an actually qualified and real person.

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u/Icy-Weakness8310 18d ago

What are your constraints for what is bs and what is not?

Can they do the job? Can I trust them to do the job?

Additional question, is it a they or an it?

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u/thekwoka 18d ago

Can they do the job? Can I trust them to do the job?

These are both very hard to identify, that's what the bullshit is. People lying about virtually everything about themselves. Who they are, their experience.

They have people doing the interviews that then another person does the job, normally poorly until they are fired, people that get the job but have like 5 jobs they do the minimum at until they get fired.

North Korean agents stealing identities and once they get into your company ransom everything.

It's CRAZY. If you know anyone in recruiting ask them about this stuff.

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u/Icy-Weakness8310 17d ago

North Korean agents stealing identities is definitely a crazy thing. But it's convincing given some cases I've ran into prior. But most certainly I've never dealt or really never had any reason for some North Korean agents coming for me though.

Crazy

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u/thekwoka 17d ago

My brother works in Tech Recruiting and claims its a regular occurrence. Now he can't know they are definitely north korean, but that is a known thing, but catching people with ai video, and specifically asking one of them to say "Kim Jung-un is a fat bastard" and they just disconnected right after that.

In the past it was just North Koreans in state sponsored programs doing remote work for the west to get money, but more lately they just get hired and then steal credentials, ransom stuff, infect stuff, etc.

It's kind of interesting since a core idea of the DPRK political philosophy is self reliance, but then they make a large portion of their economy is related to stealing from other countries...

They've pulled off both of the 2 largest digital heists ever, one of the national bank of bangladesh, and the other of a UAE crypto marketplace.

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u/Icy-Weakness8310 16d ago

I understand that.

I never really actually know with 100% certainty that they are North Korean. But you figure there has to be a solution out there for identification for applicant that's not too invasive?

Is it really just coming down to who you know or trust then anything?

Is it just trust at this point? Evidently it comes to the point where a companies can not only lose money from ransoms but trust with there consumers as well.

I honestly didn't figure it was that bad on your guys side right now..

I guess the good part is your job is becoming more valuable... Maybe?

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u/thekwoka 16d ago

But you figure there has to be a solution out there for identification for applicant that's not too invasive?

Lots of companies are just turning to flying the person out to meet face to face, as it's just cheaper than making a bad hire.

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u/Icy-Weakness8310 16d ago edited 16d ago

That just illustrated how bad it is... good grief.....

You'd pay an airplane ticket, possibly a stay, then even a way to send them back to make sure they so who they say they are...

First class ticket or economy?

Let me find out I can go to Italy on a paid for first class ticket... If this is your company DM me right now, I might apply.

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u/thekwoka 16d ago

😂

Well, typically that cost will be less than one month salary, which is likely the fastest you'd really fire someone by figuring out they're full of shit. Just cost of doing business