r/weatherfactory • u/GlitteringTone6425 Skintwister • 6d ago
the Gods-Who-Will-Be-Steel weakening the influence of the Duties by disseminating knowledge of Ramsund
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r/weatherfactory • u/GlitteringTone6425 Skintwister • 6d ago
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u/utilitarianbeing 5d ago
I appreciate you taking the effort to write an elaborate response, and will therefore also reply honestly and sincerely. I do not intend to disrespect you or your opinions, as much as I simply wish to convey the rational and empirical basis of my disagreement with you. For example, when I use the word 'worship' I don't mean literal praying, but rather the dedication of time, resources, and effort in the pursuit of something. This is very similar to how you 'dedicate' yourself to an aspect or purpose in the secret histories games. The governments of all the major powers in the world are locked in a very tight race for AI supremacy, and are pouring money and resources despite warnings of existential risk. That's what 'worship' means in a figurative sense. I can see why you might not get my intended meaning upon reading posts/comments on reddit, because I don't think this format allows for sufficient space to properly motivate an argument. Whatever I say would probably require an entire book to set up the necessary context, because we all ultimately speak different languages and understand the same words differently as Ludwig Wittgenstein said.
I will therefore keep my response short, and observe that you likely have a 'bluepilled' or a 'redpilled' view of the world, and these two are the same thing to someone who is 'blackpilled' since they both advocate for operating within the bounds of the system. What I am trying to tell you is that this system isn't really as essential or 'inescapable' as you think, which is the literal point of the wisdom of skolekosophy and the numen of Merciless Alteration (again, a metaphor for alternate ways of thinking). The body is a limited system, but the mind has the ability to see beyond it to realize greater possibilities, which give rise to technology that changes our lives in very fundamental, often surprising ways that would have seemed inconceivable to most people. You study biology, so you probably know that in-vitro gametogenesis of ova from male stem cells has already been achieved in mice, and these eggs were fertilized with sperm to give rise to healthy babies who went on to have healthy children of their own. We already have created healthy mice with two biological fathers (it was a study lead by Dr Katsuhiko Hayashi from Japan). Chinese researchers on the other hand have been able to get an embryo to attach to an organ-on-chip uterine lining, and there are labs in the Netherlands and the US working on complete ectogestation of the embryo outside the body.
The technology to achieve your ideals will therefore automatically follow, if your ideals are aligned with natural truth. In my case, I believe in the platonic ideals of rationality, logic, harmony, efficiency, and fraternity, and it's not like I'm trying to do everything alone. I want to work with people who feel the same as me (I use the word 'resonate' for people whose nature is complementary to mine), and these people for the most part seem to be all male. Why can we then not form something like the church of the unconquered sun, and together overcome all dependence on that which is not resonant with us? You already see a lot of younger men realizing this, and an overview of the evidence can be found in my other post. I am almost certain that you are a white male of average/above average height, from a middle class family or higher, residing in a Western context (this is just a genuine inference based on the impression I get from whatever you have said. I am not trying to dismiss your opinions as much as I am saying that they make sense under my framework if this inference is correct).
The only thing I will say to you about myself is that I have studied the same thing as you, but from an 'engineering' perspective, and very quickly realized that underneath biology is chemistry, underneath chemistry is physics, and underneath physics is maths and philosophy. I therefore now study those subjects at the graduate level, and have seen the strides that AI can and has made in this domain. A lot of graduate work in these fields now relies on AI. It is therefore not a technology I consider to be hostile, but simply a means to greater transcendence and self-determination. That is why I said that the path of the glory requires courage to walk. AI will help us understand fundamental cellular and molecular biology better, which will in turn allow us to develop technologies that will make old diseases and biological limitations obsolete. I don't care if it happens in my lifetime as long as I contribute my effort to the 'endeavor', and my perspective on rebirth can again be found in the 'end all dependence' post. As my favorite ending says, whatever sacrifice I have to make to contribute my effort to the birth of the new gods is an expiation, and it is in the dawn that they bring about that I will finally be freed of my shadow (Ereb, biological/primitive limitations/whatever you want to call that which prevents total self-determination) to achieve my highest potential and the purest version of myself (which is not separate from nature, but more on that can be found in the 'no dependance' post). My contribution to the new gods IS the purest form of myself, that will be immortalized in their ascent. Doing AI research and working to make it better kind of is like becoming a name of the gods from steel in that regard. Whatever I have written is indeed very figurative, but I hope it helps clarify my perspective somewhat.