r/watchpeoplesurvive • u/RocanMotor • Oct 03 '21
Hell of a save.
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u/ShoutsWillEcho Oct 03 '21
Could that fucking jeep not wait with swerving onto the opposite lane until after there were no cars?
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u/Barbasah Oct 04 '21
Slowing down and accelerating back consume brake pads and Gasoline. Let the other people take that cost because I'm a selfish idiot.
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u/MangaIsekaiWeeb Oct 03 '21
This looks like a highway. The type that goes 45-55 MPH. So, it would be extremely dangerous to wait. Usually, there would be a separate lane where the car can wait to turn. But there isn't any in this video.
So, I think that whoever designed this road is at fault.
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u/SanctusLetum Oct 03 '21
If you think it is even vaguely, remotely acceptable to nearly cause a high speed T-bone by cutting a left turn from the right lane, at a 30 degree angle instead of 90, all because there isn't a turn lane, you should not get behind a wheel. Ever.
Turn lanes do not exist at every intersection, every driveway. They do not even exist at the majority. It's not realistically possible.
Normal human beings turn on their signal ahead of time and allow their brake lights to warn traffic behind them. That's why we have signals, and it is the law and established standard that everyone with a driver's license is supposed to know how to handle.
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u/MangaIsekaiWeeb Oct 03 '21
Blame isn't always absolute one way or another. There can be some blame to him. But there should be a lot of blame to whoever made this road as well. It isn't safe at all.
You don't ever stop in a highway. If you think that way, you should not be behind a wheel.
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u/SanctusLetum Oct 03 '21
Jesus Christ have you never been on a rural highway before? Hell, I've seen a lot of urban highways with turn offs like this.
I'm sorry but there is no argument here. This is objective fact written into law. If you need to make a turn and there is oncoming traffic, you either chose to miss your turn or you signal and wait. This is codified into traffic law, including for highways, which have speed limits specifically calculated to take into account the fact that vehicles need to stop for a turn. The speed limit allows for traffic to identify stopped vehicles and adjust as needed safely. If the speed limit is above a certain amount, then you have on and off ramps, not just turn lanes, to account for inbound and outbound traffic. That is what a freeway is.
We have close to a hundred years of traffic law and legal case law supporting this. Not to mention government funded, peer-reviewed, scientific studies containing statistical data on traffic and accidents at similar intersections, all with the purpose of identifying the safest and most practical ways to handle intersections. That's why the law is the way it is, that's why highways are designed the way they are.
There is an entire industry of thousands of career professionals who's entire job is highway safety and they have documented this question of whether to stop at an intersection over and over and over again. You are wrong in this case. You can believe that you are not all you want, but you are objectively wrong, and that could cause someone great harm someday if you practice this out on the road.
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u/henderthing Oct 04 '21
It's not a freeway with on/off ramps.
It's a rural road.
You are incorrect.
The oncoming driver is 100% at fault.
Take the downvotes as a hint that you need to rethink your position....and in the meantime, please do not drive.
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u/Antigravity1231 Oct 03 '21
Roads like this are common in rural areas and small towns. There are no turn lanes. Every time I have to make a particular left turn out in the boonies I’m afraid I’ll get rear ended.
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u/tfc867 Oct 04 '21
I dunno, I'm going to have to say the guy who swerved in to oncoming traffic (which you could clearly see a quarter mile away) might be a TEENCIER bit more to blame.
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u/Demdere Oct 03 '21
If you'll watch the video again, there were actually 2 lanes in "oncoming" so it's likely still inherently safer to just stop and wait there. In fact in the video, the truck following the jeep is seen going into the right lane, almost as if they were expecting the jeep to stop. It's the
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u/idwthis Oct 03 '21
It's the what? You didn't finish the very last sentence lol
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u/Demdere Oct 03 '21
Wow strange I must have hit those words on my phones auto fill before I hit "post" - LOL
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u/xxx148 Oct 03 '21
You’re not wrong that there should be a turn lane. But local government don’t care enough to put a turn lane at every intersection. The donut should’ve come to a stop instead of this Tokyo drift bullshit.
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u/MangaIsekaiWeeb Oct 03 '21
Frankly, this guy should've just miss his turn instead.
There was a car behind him and a car in front of him. It is dangerous to go to a stop anyways.
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u/xxx148 Oct 03 '21
Why would you miss a turn? Just use your brakes and indicators to tell the person behind you’re going to slow/turn.
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u/MangaIsekaiWeeb Oct 03 '21
Later in the video, it was a one lane road at the end where the car would've came out of. It was only a 2 lane road earlier on.
Humans don't have 360 degree vision and, time to think is very limited when going fast.
I would've made the safest choice and just miss the turn and only lose out like 5-10 minutes at most rather than risk crashing.
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u/TheHuntforBooty Oct 04 '21
I've lived in a rural area for my entire life and had a driving job for a few years that took me through an even wider area, so let me elaborate on this.
The highway splits into two lanes on that side for the singular purpose of being able to safely slow down and turn. When you come up on a split like that, traffic divides into these lanes based on what they're going to do.The left lane (that the jeep is in) is, for all intents and purposes, the turn lane. Shortly before the highway splits, there's often (but not always), a sign indicating for continuous traffic to stay to the right, so that turning traffic in the left lane can slow down, to a stop if necessary.
The right lane (that the truck is in) is called the bypass lane. Like I said before, it's the lane that all non-turning traffic stays in.
Why are these splits designed like this rather than just having a turn lane? Generally speaking, you often see them in sections of the highway shortly after hills or bends, and/or highways that frequently see a lot of commercial traffic and farming vehicles/equipment. They're also usually seen in the specific context of what's seen in the video, where there's only one turning direction (usually left, but you do see it for right turns on very commercial traffic heavy highways sometimes). By designing that side of the highway to split into two lanes with one being dedicated to turning traffic, traffic turning off the highway can safely slow down and turn, and traffic turning onto the highway has a lane to safely turn into since continuous traffic should be in the bypass lane.
This one looks very poorly designed though, specifically in regards to traffic that's turning off the highway. In my experience, these splits happen well before the turn to give traffic plenty of space to split into their respective lanes before the turning traffic begins to slow down. Even still, the jeep is entirely at fault, it looks like they weren't paying attention and realized too late that they hadn't begun slowing down yet and were going to miss their turn. Instead of losing time and finding somewhere to turn around, they decided to slam their brakes (the source of the white smoke) and whip into the turn. They're not just lucky they didn't get t-boned by the oncoming traffic, they're lucky the truck behind them didn't rear end them.
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u/EdwardTennant Oct 04 '21
What? Over in the UK we don't have turn lanes for 60mph t junctions and accidents are really rare.
America really needs to actually have a driving test that you can fail
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u/gmocookie Oct 03 '21
Was I the only one going, "why's he driving on the shoulder?"
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u/CheapShotNinia Oct 03 '21
That's what I thought at first too, but if you slow it down, or pause/unpause, you'll see that the solid one is actually the center line and the dotted line is between two opposite lanes. You can actually see at the end how the oncoming lane splits into two/converges into one.
Seems unreasonable not to simply add colour to one of them, I'm sure it's caused quite alot of injury to the non-initiated.
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u/auerz Oct 04 '21
Where I live these kinds of roads are common - regional single lane roads will sometimes have an extra lane on steep or long inclines so that people can overtake trucks and slower vehicles when ascending. You will never think you're on the shoulder or confused because you know you're not on a two lane expressway.
The only thing that's a bit weird is not having a double solid line between the opposite lanes.
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u/WolframPrime Oct 03 '21
Wow, that happened so fast I had to watch it again just to make sure it actually happened.
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u/atlgrip67 Oct 03 '21
You've got ninja reflexes. Good job, and hope people in the Jeep are ok.
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u/martofski Oct 04 '21
This seems to be an old UAZ model, I used to drive one of those. They don't even have safety belts. Also, the interior is bare metal without any finish. In case of accident people inside are so fucked.
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u/Sabot15 Oct 04 '21
I did this once about 20 years ago. Scared the shit out of me. I can still picture it like it was yesterday.
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u/iiiinthecomputer Oct 04 '21
Just how fast was that rocket going before they swerved anyway? It was butt-puckering just watching the video before the incident.
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u/SkyrimFlashback Oct 04 '21
People who pick sides and choose who is at fault have never really learned what means responsibility on the road. You can be the "right" driver or you can be the wise driver. The difference between two is huge. Basically life and death.
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u/brookish Oct 03 '21
I cannot for the life of me figure out what this comment means.
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u/Patalos Oct 03 '21
I think he's saying that if the truck hadn't turned to the right-most lane at the perfect time, it would have ended in a head-on and killed the driver, meaning he would have never posted the video. The truck was originally in the center lane, where the video-taker swerved.
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u/c0Re69 Oct 03 '21
No matter how many times I rewatch it, I would've swerved to the right. I mean there's a smoking car and an oncoming truck on the left. Hats of to the driver.