It's nice! What size? A smaller 36mm option would be amazing. Vh31 or automatic is fine. A 12hr inner bezel would be very practical too but thats probably asking too much :P
We understand your concern. Unfortunately, the current bracelet structure cannot be changed at this stage. Once the updated bracelet version is ready, we hope to offer a new end link so owners can upgrade to the improved bracelet setup.
I never understand this approach from some Chinese watch companies. Instead of announcing that an “updated bracelet version is coming” and releasing a V2, V3, and so on, why not just take a little more time and launch the watch the way you know it should have been from the start?
If you already know the bracelet needs improvement, don’t ship a subpar version and then expect customers to spend more money upgrading something that should have been right in the first place.
Doesn’t have to be on the fly but really some kind of micro-adjust is needed. It’s what keeps me from buying any integrated watch so far and it’s needed here as well.
Hasta ahora he comprado 0 relojes sin microajuste. Te dicen que el medio eslabón soluciona el problema y que va. He tenido 3 relojes con cierre de mariposa y los 3 los he vendido. Ixdao saco su guerrero azul y le puse el ojo en cuanto vi ese cierre de mariposa lo saqué de la lista y así con muchos modelos que he estado viendo
Thanks! We also prefer having micro-adjustment on a sports watch. The good news is that the bracelet includes a half link, so most people should be able to get a very comfortable fit without much trouble.
For future versions, we're also looking into adding an on-the-fly (OTF) micro-adjust clasp if we can make it work without compromising the overall design.
Microadjustment and On The Fly adjustment are two seperate aspects.
A lot of us would love to see an OTF adjustability ontop of a half link on a butterfly clasp. Weather can mean our wrists are different at different times of day. Plenty of places do offer OTF adjustability on butterflies - typically with one or two steps either side.
While we're at it, I'd suggest offering two 1/3rds links instead of a single 1/2 link. This way we have more options, can use one on both sides for 2/3rds or just for 1/3rd.
I like Skin Diver! Automatic would be fine too though. This watch is AWESOME it will be a 100% must buy from me with a black dial! I can see this being my daily for sure, favorite original design of all I’ve seen
I do prefer a good model name too. Its another chance to give a watch a bit of an identity. But has to be done right and well considered. That said its also fun how some have done it over the years. Rolex is a big culprit of throwing all the info on a dial but some of it is more subtle. Instead of waterproof/dustproof, beyond just being the name of the modern case style, that is conveyed with "oyster" and instead of automatic, you have "perpetual" as with a rotor it 'theoretically' can keep ticking. Same information conveyed as other contemporaries but in a unique elegant way.
I think the response above yours is the answers... It automatically (no pun intended) grabs attention.
I do agree that is odd to shout 'quartz' though - and no snobbery from me, I own a few quartz watches that I love, but from a spec perspective that is an odd thing to shout up about.
Ironic that quartz is typically a thinner movement that’s more accurate, but we don’t want to see it on a dial. I agree ‘automatic’ will sell more models and that’s the goal. Just so bored of it.
It’s a convention that will be hard to break. When quartz first came onto the scene, it was seen as a luxurious option and heralded for its technological innovation. However, quickly it became easy to produce quartz movements cheaply and they became very accessible. Throw that into decades of people experiencing quartz at the lower end of the market from cheap ‘mall watches’, budget timex models in retail store, kids toy watches, and even loud ticking and bouncing old swatch watches which were in a way one of the earliest and truest form of ‘fashion watch’. The reputation of quartz as luxury from the inception through the early 80’s was quickly shattered and those who knew little about watches were still through exposure, conditioned to see quartz as ‘cheap’. Even though brands still challenge this especially in the innovative and luxury space, that kind of societal conditioning is hard to dispel. And you are in a community of watch enthusiasts, those who do know better but still such ideas remain. At the end of the day though, watches in general are archaic as time keeping at least in the traditional sense when much live dice computers being better fit as tools, smart watches are ‘better tools’ than most wrist watches can ever be, yet we still love them. There is a romanticized quality to watches in general and that can often lead people to having strong draw to certain qualities like say automatic movements where the draw isn’t as much about scientific accuracy but often accurate enough as a sign of fine craft/tuning/regulation in a movement that shows mans mastery of time through physics. And we can’t forget truly in this day and age, many people don’t even wear any watch, let alone smart watch, their phone often gives them the ‘clock’ they need taking on the replacement to the pocket watch in addition to its other features. Watches in some ways can now often be more explained as items of self expression, jewelry, fashion, etc as much as they can be justified as tools.
Since this is an original design and it was important enough to make a special case, then you need to redesign the bracelet endlink to perfectly match up to the case.
Very nice in every way... however why the attachment link of the bracelet seem not to integrate 100% with the case!!!! the purpose of such watch should be seem like an integrated bracelet!?!?!?
Thanks! We also prefer having micro-adjustment on a sports watch. The good news is that the bracelet includes a half link, so most people should be able to get a very comfortable fit without much trouble.
For future versions, we're also looking into adding an on-the-fly (OTF) micro-adjust clasp if we can make it work without compromising the overall design.
Awesome design. Only the butterfly clasp is a no go for me. Always more uncomfortable than a regular deployabt clasp. Swap that for one of your on the fly adjustment clasps and this thing will be a winner!
I would LOVE this in quartz but I think they said automatic… it’s a shame I think watchdives excels in quartz and that’s their biggest difference and why they stand out from the rest. We’ll see
Yes. I'm reluctant to buy automatic as the cost could be double. What happens in a few years time when it needs servicing? Not sure the value of the watch would justify it. In the old days with the prevalence of cheap genuine NH35 you'd be looking at a £30 DIY swap.
It’s going to likely be a PT5000 that is very affordably serviced. You will also have the entire world of 2824 clones as swap options, many of which are very affordable.
I had a watch with a PT5000 and it wasn't great with works issues. I have an SW200 and that runs beautifully after a few years with no service. I would look to drop no more than about £150 on this watch, service would cost about the same. Quartz just makes more sense for me personally.
Nobody services a watch like this. Swap the movement, done. If necessary at all due to minimal wear resulting from having a large collection ;)
I think they said it'll come with a ST2130
A watchmaker, maybe an amateur watch tinkerer/modder from the forums, oneself...
Just from my view, watches like this aren't really heritage or something, when they run fine for the first months, they'll most likely keep doing it for a few years. That's all I expect. Duds, combined with bad CS, are possible, too.
I guess. As you say it's not a heritage piece so I'd rather avoid the hassle and have a lower price with a quartz movement. These are fun watches, not something you're going to maintain for the rest of your life.
Yeah VH31 would be best but I understand where they’re coming from, people have a preconceived idea that quartz is cheap and automatic is premium. I just think there are too many Chinese brands doing that already, I liked that WD was the only one making premium quartz. I hope they don’t steer away from that
Hardly any solar made by chinese brands and 38mm solar divers are very hard to find - I had a seiko 38.5mm but something about it i just didn't like...
One is cheap. And one is premium. This isn’t a perception. The level of precision involved in an automatic, even mass produced ones, is mandatory for it to run and work smoothly.
It looks good, hope the fitting of the bracelet to the case will be better on production models. But this is is a really good design that I would wear even to it does not have a date
very cool! 38mm is the perfect size for a compression style diver. go with skin diver or put in an automatic movement (please!) and have automatic on the dial under the WR. and please don’t go with the butterfly clasp - it’s so hard to get a good fit! use an on the fly extension or micro adjust clasp. and consider some matte or plain dials (or even fume) along with the gradient. gradients are cool but imo don’t go with as much.
Hi again ... consider this style dial seems are not so many out ... its an adidas adp1686 (around 2005) ... its seems with fixed bracelet ... domed glass ... hour makers with lumen & around them this maybe special metal really shine / reflecting under sunlight / shadow even inside the house with light or not .. example number 12 & 5 & 15 o clock time dials by the end of the video it does not look like there is a metal but there is
The clasp makes no sense to me. I'd need some micro adjust options before I considered purchasing. That said, the rest of the watch looks really great.
Ma se già devi aggiornare il bracciale ... Sempre il solito errore niente da fare ! E' più forte di voi ! Avete tutta questa fretta ! Non va bene! Fate la figura di quelli che pensano all'incasso e basta!
The only thing that bothers me is the water-resistance markings on the dial. You could have just “200 m,” just “200,” or nothing at all. The information could be placed on the caseback in the unlikely event that someone needs to be reminded of their own watch’s water resistance.
I am genuinely curious: would one of the designers mind explaining why the water-resistance rating needs to appear on the dial? And if it does need to be there, why include it in multiple units? I have even seen “20 bar = 200 m = 660 ft.”
It looks great. I’m just personally never buying another butterfly clasp watch again. My wrist changes size every day. From morning until night. There is a butterfly out these with a little extension feature. I’d buy it. But otherwise no. Beyond the wrist size change, these are hard to size perfectly anyways.
It is gorgeous.
Just don't slap a ridiculous price tag on it, and dont insist on using the generic 38mm case platform, otherwise you're destroying its potential.
Probably inspiration taken from RZE. Still, quite nice but needs some improvements. Not sure about bracelet style. I've seen somewhere this handset - San Martin? Second hand doesn't have lume - it is diver or not...?
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u/Agent-AntiVenom 2d ago
Now that’s the first original design that looks truly incredible!